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[GB] GMK Hammerhead | GB Not yet Available
« on: Tue, 04 June 2019, 10:50:05 »
The New kits have been created and are available for feedback

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GMK Hammerhead: An Update 6/12

Hey everyone,

So itís come to my attention that Hammerhead has had a lot of quirks through this GB launch. I had taken on this project in the hopes to create a set that is unique and still caters to a large variety of keyboard layouts for maximum compatibility. In my excitement for the GB and less experience in layout design, a lot of the decisions I made in kit design donít function how they intended and as a result has garnered a lot of questions with all the new attention since launch, bringing up things I hadnít seen previously.

I should have addressed some of these changes earlier, and highly considered a delay, but in my excitement to launch Hammerhead I made a poor judgement call. Additionally, Deep Water is far out selling actual core, which, not including the logistic issues associated with that, is something that needs addressing as it isnít supported by euro and has a lot of the same problems as Core. In light of all this, the GB for Hammerhead is going to be taken down, and full order refunds issued to all the individuals who purchased the keysets and associated items.

 I want to take some time to work on the sets, make changes and seek the help of those more experienced than myself in layout design, then bring the new kits back to listen to your feedback and make further changes if necessary. If the interest is still there following this, Iíd like to relaunch. The current vendors are on board.

 Some, but not all, of the changes Iíd like to include here:

-Deep Water will be the primary edition of the kit. Euro support will be created. The core kit will be completely restructured as well, but Iíll poll interest for the kit down the road to determine whether it can justify a full kit or something smaller.

-The kits will be fully restructured in an effort to make a lot of the mods more consistent with standard GMK color layouts, and a drive to make the kits a little smaller in size to lower costs overall.

-The spacebar kits will be restructured in light of the main kit changes.

-Iíd like to work with the manufacturer in the time away to get deskpads on all vendors.

I wanted to take this time to thank everyone who has entered the GB so far. Thank you for all your lovely support, comments, questions and criticism. To those excited about Hammerhead, Iím very sorry that the kits will be coming down and understand thereís disappointment. I just want to ship the best possible version of GMK Hammerhead when itís ready, something I really hope everyone can be happy with.

Some order details:
I will be traveling to visit family today 6/12, but Iíll make sure that all KeyLabs orders are refunded in 48 hours of this post. The other vendors will follow this announcement but their schedule may be just a little different. Iíll be sending out a similar email to all GB joiners similar to this announcement to make sure you catch it.

Thanks again. -KeyLabs Chad

Edit 6:13 Thanks everyone for the kind comments and feedback, it was a little unexpected so thank you. I'll have some work to take a look at soon, and it will be handled over at the IC thread when the time comes.


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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 17:11:00 »
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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 17:37:01 »
Good luck! Will for sure buy this within the month! :)
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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 17:41:52 »
Good luck! Will for sure buy this within the mont! :)

Hey thanks so much for the support! This is my first group buy so its always great to see people excited.

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 19:43:06 »
Hey, man! Love the colors of this set. Quick question for you, though:

You said this on the Hammerhead IC:

"Thanks for this point. The kit sets you see on the GB page are the final versions.

Nothing will be subtracted or changed from the kits on the site. They ship as advertised. If anything is added it will be for free and of no cost to the customer, on our dime, as a separate bonus item."


When you had said this, there were issues with the renders on your site. You had duplicate mod-colored tilde keys and duplicate mod-colored pipe keys, and I think lack of 7u spacebar. I see those have been corrected for this GB thread, as well as on the site.

You had earlier said this when someone asked about the duplicates:

"Ah nice catch. Unfortunately I had not seen that. One of those is supposed to be the darker blue color. I'll see what I can do with GMK, but requesting another quote an render may change costs and take some time."

So, can we assume that, both the price and the renders on the site right now are 100% true and what people will receive? I'm just a little confused, so trying to find some clarity. Thanks! <3
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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 21:04:28 »
Hey, man! Love the colors of this set. Quick question for you, though:

You said this on the Hammerhead IC:

"Thanks for this point. The kit sets you see on the GB page are the final versions.

Nothing will be subtracted or changed from the kits on the site. They ship as advertised. If anything is added it will be for free and of no cost to the customer, on our dime, as a separate bonus item."


When you had said this, there were issues with the renders on your site. You had duplicate mod-colored tilde keys and duplicate mod-colored pipe keys, and I think lack of 7u spacebar. I see those have been corrected for this GB thread, as well as on the site.

You had earlier said this when someone asked about the duplicates:

"Ah nice catch. Unfortunately I had not seen that. One of those is supposed to be the darker blue color. I'll see what I can do with GMK, but requesting another quote an render may change costs and take some time."

So, can we assume that, both the price and the renders on the site right now are 100% true and what people will receive? I'm just a little confused, so trying to find some clarity. Thanks! <3

Yes, I'm sorry for the confusion here, it was a bit of a miscommunication from my end. I should have clarified and stated that nothing would be added to the kits that would raise the price unexpectedly on the customer end or things would be removed that would change the compatibility of the set ie. removing a shift key unexpectedly and losing layout support as a result.

At the time, due to the fact that GMK typically takes some time to re render and reprice kits at cost I did not think it would be logistically possible to correct a duplicate key without it taking time and changing pricing. Luckily, GMK took it in great stride and my rep was able to make the changes much quicker than anticipated. The end result is that there are no unnecessarily duplicated keys (corrected to mod color) in the kit at no extra cost. More specifically the R1 (~) and R2 (\|) keys have been color corrected so that the color layout is now correct swapping what would otherwise be mostly useless keys.

I do understand that this was a little confusing, but in the busyness of the launch, I spoke a little too soon.

TLDR: There were two keys R1 (~) and R2 (\|) that had been duplicated and this has been corrected and updated on all platforms with no change in cost or production timeline. There are 7U alpha color spacebars available in both kits, however I did have to make the tough call not to include the dark blue (533c) 7u spacebar as a costs measure. I was a little hasty with my original response and I do apologize for that.

Thank you for your question though, I do hope this helps.

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 21:10:57 »
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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 21:18:49 »
For the navy 7U spacebar, if you really don't want to throw it in the base kit, can you please throw it in the spacebar kit (either add in as an extra, or replacing the 6U alpha colored spacebar in the spacebar kit)? I really think the 7U navy spacebar is the breakpoint for quite a few people, myself include. If you can just make that spacebar available anywhere without me having to purchase another base kit to get it, I'll buy definitely.

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 21:29:26 »
Hey, man! Love the colors of this set. Quick question for you, though:

You said this on the Hammerhead IC:

"Thanks for this point. The kit sets you see on the GB page are the final versions.

Nothing will be subtracted or changed from the kits on the site. They ship as advertised. If anything is added it will be for free and of no cost to the customer, on our dime, as a separate bonus item."


When you had said this, there were issues with the renders on your site. You had duplicate mod-colored tilde keys and duplicate mod-colored pipe keys, and I think lack of 7u spacebar. I see those have been corrected for this GB thread, as well as on the site.

You had earlier said this when someone asked about the duplicates:

"Ah nice catch. Unfortunately I had not seen that. One of those is supposed to be the darker blue color. I'll see what I can do with GMK, but requesting another quote an render may change costs and take some time."

So, can we assume that, both the price and the renders on the site right now are 100% true and what people will receive? I'm just a little confused, so trying to find some clarity. Thanks! <3

Yes, I'm sorry for the confusion here, it was a bit of a miscommunication from my end. I should have clarified and stated that nothing would be added to the kits that would raise the price unexpectedly on the customer end or things would be removed that would change the compatibility of the set ie. removing a shift key unexpectedly and losing layout support as a result.

At the time, due to the fact that GMK typically takes some time to re render and reprice kits at cost I did not think it would be logistically possible to correct a duplicate key without it taking time and changing pricing. Luckily, GMK took it in great stride and my rep was able to make the changes much quicker than anticipated. The end result is that there are no unnecessarily duplicated keys (corrected to mod color) in the kit at no extra cost. More specifically the R1 (~) and R2 (\|) keys have been color corrected so that the color layout is now correct swapping what would otherwise be mostly useless keys.

I do understand that this was a little confusing, but in the busyness of the launch, I spoke a little too soon.

TLDR: There were two keys R1 (~) and R2 (\|) that had been duplicated and this has been corrected and updated on all platforms with no change in cost or production timeline. There are 7U alpha color spacebars available in both kits, however I did have to make the tough call not to include the dark blue (533c) 7u spacebar as a costs measure. I was a little hasty with my original response and I do apologize for that.

Thank you for your question though, I do hope this helps.

Thanks for the clarification! Also, while you're here, is there a reason you decided to omit a [proper/traditional] mod-colored enter key from both base kits? Just my personal curiosity. haha

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 23:27:58 »
Still confused why zFrontier and CandyKey have a higher price on Deep water kit compared to Core kit.
Not here to moan since I'm gonna buy this beauty for sure. But just wanna understand the reason behind it  ;D
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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 06:39:28 »
Still confused why zFrontier and CandyKey have a higher price on Deep water kit compared to Core kit.
Not here to moan since I'm gonna buy this beauty for sure. But just wanna understand the reason behind it  ;D

Hey thanks for the question! So the reason for that is that the Deep Water kit actually has a lower MOQ than the core. Initially the kit was just a set of alternative alphas, but there was so much support for that layout that it merited its own larger kit. However because it does have a lower MOQ, Deep Water is actually is more expensive per unit to produce until it sells 250 units (which is the MOQ of the Core). But, it can be produced with less orders. The margins on Deep Water are really slim, and since each vendor is dealing with differences in import costs, taxes etc, unfortunately on those two platforms Deep Water had to be just a little more to work.

Hopefully that helps!

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 08:05:47 »
I hate beating on a dead horse, but is there any chance you could include that navy 7U in the spacebar kit? :(

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 08:11:37 »
Still confused why zFrontier and CandyKey have a higher price on Deep water kit compared to Core kit.
Not here to moan since I'm gonna buy this beauty for sure. But just wanna understand the reason behind it  ;D

Hey thanks for the question! So the reason for that is that the Deep Water kit actually has a lower MOQ than the core. Initially the kit was just a set of alternative alphas, but there was so much support for that layout that it merited its own larger kit. However because it does have a lower MOQ, Deep Water is actually is more expensive per unit to produce until it sells 250 units (which is the MOQ of the Core). But, it can be produced with less orders. The margins on Deep Water are really slim, and since each vendor is dealing with differences in import costs, taxes etc, unfortunately on those two platforms Deep Water had to be just a little more to work.

Hopefully that helps!

Thanks for the detailed answer! Now, I completely understand it  :thumb:
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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 08:17:02 »
I hate beating on a dead horse, but is there any chance you could include that navy 7U in the spacebar kit? :(

Hey there, appreciate the question.

Since the core and Deepwater kits do still ship with standard 7u spacebars, adding additional accent 7u would be a rather significant change requiring new GMK renders of the kits involved and a change in pricing at this point in time. If The kits do so well that there is a chunk of margin to play with towards the end of the sale there may be a possibility to poll for a few bonus keys as thanks for the great support, and it may be a consideration at that point in time, but I don't want to get ahead of myself only being on the second day of GB launch.

That being said, my offer still stands where if you would like a Dark blue, accent color, 7u (533c) spacebar at the end of the GB I would happily part with my unused one from my personal Deep Water kit :)
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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 08:19:56 »
Hey, man! Love the colors of this set. Quick question for you, though:

You said this on the Hammerhead IC:

"Thanks for this point. The kit sets you see on the GB page are the final versions.

Nothing will be subtracted or changed from the kits on the site. They ship as advertised. If anything is added it will be for free and of no cost to the customer, on our dime, as a separate bonus item."


When you had said this, there were issues with the renders on your site. You had duplicate mod-colored tilde keys and duplicate mod-colored pipe keys, and I think lack of 7u spacebar. I see those have been corrected for this GB thread, as well as on the site.

You had earlier said this when someone asked about the duplicates:

"Ah nice catch. Unfortunately I had not seen that. One of those is supposed to be the darker blue color. I'll see what I can do with GMK, but requesting another quote an render may change costs and take some time."

So, can we assume that, both the price and the renders on the site right now are 100% true and what people will receive? I'm just a little confused, so trying to find some clarity. Thanks! <3

Yes, I'm sorry for the confusion here, it was a bit of a miscommunication from my end. I should have clarified and stated that nothing would be added to the kits that would raise the price unexpectedly on the customer end or things would be removed that would change the compatibility of the set ie. removing a shift key unexpectedly and losing layout support as a result.

At the time, due to the fact that GMK typically takes some time to re render and reprice kits at cost I did not think it would be logistically possible to correct a duplicate key without it taking time and changing pricing. Luckily, GMK took it in great stride and my rep was able to make the changes much quicker than anticipated. The end result is that there are no unnecessarily duplicated keys (corrected to mod color) in the kit at no extra cost. More specifically the R1 (~) and R2 (\|) keys have been color corrected so that the color layout is now correct swapping what would otherwise be mostly useless keys.

I do understand that this was a little confusing, but in the busyness of the launch, I spoke a little too soon.

TLDR: There were two keys R1 (~) and R2 (\|) that had been duplicated and this has been corrected and updated on all platforms with no change in cost or production timeline. There are 7U alpha color spacebars available in both kits, however I did have to make the tough call not to include the dark blue (533c) 7u spacebar as a costs measure. I was a little hasty with my original response and I do apologize for that.

Thank you for your question though, I do hope this helps.

Thanks for the clarification! Also, while you're here, is there a reason you decided to omit a [proper/traditional] mod-colored enter key from both base kits? Just my personal curiosity. haha

Yeah so when I initially started this IC in the fall, there were just so many GMK sets popping up seemingly every other week. I had wanted Hammerhead to stand out on some elements that were a little more non-traditional. Over the course of the IC however, less common things like the alternative WASD were removed with feedback in consideration of the kit price. The dark blue accent mods in my opinion gave Hammerhead a lot of its feel, and having all of those removed or replaced leaving just a two keycap colored kit seemed to lose most of its aesthetic. The enter key is one of the few remaining elements that I still wanted to express in the design of the kit as its creator without raising costs by including too many duplicated keys. Hope this helps :)

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 17:04:44 »
Hey, man! Love the colors of this set. Quick question for you, though:

You said this on the Hammerhead IC:

"Thanks for this point. The kit sets you see on the GB page are the final versions.

Nothing will be subtracted or changed from the kits on the site. They ship as advertised. If anything is added it will be for free and of no cost to the customer, on our dime, as a separate bonus item."


When you had said this, there were issues with the renders on your site. You had duplicate mod-colored tilde keys and duplicate mod-colored pipe keys, and I think lack of 7u spacebar. I see those have been corrected for this GB thread, as well as on the site.

You had earlier said this when someone asked about the duplicates:

"Ah nice catch. Unfortunately I had not seen that. One of those is supposed to be the darker blue color. I'll see what I can do with GMK, but requesting another quote an render may change costs and take some time."

So, can we assume that, both the price and the renders on the site right now are 100% true and what people will receive? I'm just a little confused, so trying to find some clarity. Thanks! <3

Yes, I'm sorry for the confusion here, it was a bit of a miscommunication from my end. I should have clarified and stated that nothing would be added to the kits that would raise the price unexpectedly on the customer end or things would be removed that would change the compatibility of the set ie. removing a shift key unexpectedly and losing layout support as a result.

At the time, due to the fact that GMK typically takes some time to re render and reprice kits at cost I did not think it would be logistically possible to correct a duplicate key without it taking time and changing pricing. Luckily, GMK took it in great stride and my rep was able to make the changes much quicker than anticipated. The end result is that there are no unnecessarily duplicated keys (corrected to mod color) in the kit at no extra cost. More specifically the R1 (~) and R2 (\|) keys have been color corrected so that the color layout is now correct swapping what would otherwise be mostly useless keys.

I do understand that this was a little confusing, but in the busyness of the launch, I spoke a little too soon.

TLDR: There were two keys R1 (~) and R2 (\|) that had been duplicated and this has been corrected and updated on all platforms with no change in cost or production timeline. There are 7U alpha color spacebars available in both kits, however I did have to make the tough call not to include the dark blue (533c) 7u spacebar as a costs measure. I was a little hasty with my original response and I do apologize for that.

Thank you for your question though, I do hope this helps.

Thanks for the clarification! Also, while you're here, is there a reason you decided to omit a [proper/traditional] mod-colored enter key from both base kits? Just my personal curiosity. haha

Yeah so when I initially started this IC in the fall, there were just so many GMK sets popping up seemingly every other week. I had wanted Hammerhead to stand out on some elements that were a little more non-traditional. Over the course of the IC however, less common things like the alternative WASD were removed with feedback in consideration of the kit price. The dark blue accent mods in my opinion gave Hammerhead a lot of its feel, and having all of those removed or replaced leaving just a two keycap colored kit seemed to lose most of its aesthetic. The enter key is one of the few remaining elements that I still wanted to express in the design of the kit as its creator without raising costs by including too many duplicated keys. Hope this helps :)

It does, yeah, thanks! I'm a little bummed about it, because I don't personally like forcing accents and I would have bought the set otherwise, had it been included, but I respect your vision as a designer and wish you the best on this and future sets!

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 18:52:30 »
Hey, man! Love the colors of this set. Quick question for you, though:

You said this on the Hammerhead IC:

"Thanks for this point. The kit sets you see on the GB page are the final versions.

Nothing will be subtracted or changed from the kits on the site. They ship as advertised. If anything is added it will be for free and of no cost to the customer, on our dime, as a separate bonus item."


When you had said this, there were issues with the renders on your site. You had duplicate mod-colored tilde keys and duplicate mod-colored pipe keys, and I think lack of 7u spacebar. I see those have been corrected for this GB thread, as well as on the site.

You had earlier said this when someone asked about the duplicates:

"Ah nice catch. Unfortunately I had not seen that. One of those is supposed to be the darker blue color. I'll see what I can do with GMK, but requesting another quote an render may change costs and take some time."

So, can we assume that, both the price and the renders on the site right now are 100% true and what people will receive? I'm just a little confused, so trying to find some clarity. Thanks! <3

Yes, I'm sorry for the confusion here, it was a bit of a miscommunication from my end. I should have clarified and stated that nothing would be added to the kits that would raise the price unexpectedly on the customer end or things would be removed that would change the compatibility of the set ie. removing a shift key unexpectedly and losing layout support as a result.

At the time, due to the fact that GMK typically takes some time to re render and reprice kits at cost I did not think it would be logistically possible to correct a duplicate key without it taking time and changing pricing. Luckily, GMK took it in great stride and my rep was able to make the changes much quicker than anticipated. The end result is that there are no unnecessarily duplicated keys (corrected to mod color) in the kit at no extra cost. More specifically the R1 (~) and R2 (\|) keys have been color corrected so that the color layout is now correct swapping what would otherwise be mostly useless keys.

I do understand that this was a little confusing, but in the busyness of the launch, I spoke a little too soon.

TLDR: There were two keys R1 (~) and R2 (\|) that had been duplicated and this has been corrected and updated on all platforms with no change in cost or production timeline. There are 7U alpha color spacebars available in both kits, however I did have to make the tough call not to include the dark blue (533c) 7u spacebar as a costs measure. I was a little hasty with my original response and I do apologize for that.

Thank you for your question though, I do hope this helps.

Thanks for the clarification! Also, while you're here, is there a reason you decided to omit a [proper/traditional] mod-colored enter key from both base kits? Just my personal curiosity. haha

Yeah so when I initially started this IC in the fall, there were just so many GMK sets popping up seemingly every other week. I had wanted Hammerhead to stand out on some elements that were a little more non-traditional. Over the course of the IC however, less common things like the alternative WASD were removed with feedback in consideration of the kit price. The dark blue accent mods in my opinion gave Hammerhead a lot of its feel, and having all of those removed or replaced leaving just a two keycap colored kit seemed to lose most of its aesthetic. The enter key is one of the few remaining elements that I still wanted to express in the design of the kit as its creator without raising costs by including too many duplicated keys. Hope this helps :)

It does, yeah, thanks! I'm a little bummed about it, because I don't personally like forcing accents and I would have bought the set otherwise, had it been included, but I respect your vision as a designer and wish you the best on this and future sets!

I get it, thanks for stopping by though! Hopefully some of the Qs and As can answer some other people's questions.

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 05:36:55 »
Quick q:
Is the deep water alphas cw the same as calm depths alphas cw?

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 06:38:25 »
Quick q:
Is the deep water alphas cw the same as calm depths alphas cw?

The share a common taste, but the alpha keys are a darker blue than calm depths and the text, aquamarine rather than the more like sky blue of calm depths.

Thanks for the question!

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 11:10:54 »
I'm in ! Got the Deep Water set and novelties. I wanted to get that desk mat too but it's not listed @ candykeys ?

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 11:52:55 »
is anyone (from europe/germany) willing to sell me a single cap from the novelties? i'm mainly interested in the capslock-hammerhead.

@keylabskeycaps will you be providing/updating the numbers sold in this thread?

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 08 June 2019, 00:30:35 »
ouch, 170 usd for deep water base kit for asian customers

my wallet~~

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« Reply #22 on: Sat, 08 June 2019, 00:48:29 »
ouch, 170 usd for deep water base kit for asian customers

my wallet~~

I feel you.. thereís no benefit of a price break and lately shipping from zfrontier had been delayed quite substantially.


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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #23 on: Sat, 08 June 2019, 06:02:22 »
And ZFrontier likes to ship their orders in boxes with pictures of freaking bombs on them. Which means Customs goes haywire every time. Yay!

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #24 on: Sat, 08 June 2019, 09:16:47 »
is anyone (from europe/germany) willing to sell me a single cap from the novelties? i'm mainly interested in the capslock-hammerhead.

@keylabskeycaps will you be providing/updating the numbers sold in this thread?

Yes I will! Once I starting getting numbers from each of the regional vendors I'll start to update routinely.

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | LIVE FIRST DAY June 4th-
« Reply #25 on: Sat, 08 June 2019, 23:15:48 »
The enter key is one of the few remaining elements that I still wanted to express in the design of the kit as its creator without raising costs by including too many duplicated keys.

It looks nice on the Core kit, but it means that the Deep Water kit has an alpha-colored Enter key unless you use the 3258 accent Enter.

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | GB LIVE June 4th-
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 09 June 2019, 06:10:53 »
Any update about the current number of kits sold?
Really concern about the deep water kit.
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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | GB LIVE June 4th-
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 11 June 2019, 15:50:55 »
We will be updating numbers too on the GB page of ours, now its just on hold still to confirm a few things. We heard a few things about the pricing, turns out Deep W Base Kit was a hit. The price is simply higher :/ We do apologise.
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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | GB LIVE June 4th-
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 12 June 2019, 09:13:38 »
What's happened with US proxy. All of them out of stock?

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | KeyLabs | GB LIVE June 4th-
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 12 June 2019, 09:29:12 »
What's happened with US proxy. All of them out of stock?

Hey there, thanks for the comment. I just updated this thread if you'd like to take a look at the reason.

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 12 June 2019, 09:37:06 »
The best decision IMO, this was a bit of a headscratcher and it was frustrating as a spectator to see that all comments about it were ignored. Feel free to reach out if you want some asistance with the kits!

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 12 June 2019, 09:38:15 »
Unfortunate to hear, but the right call in my opinion. I'm looking forward to seeing this set move forward, and strongly hope ISO UK stays in  ;)

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 12 June 2019, 09:44:48 »
The best decision IMO, this was a bit of a headscratcher and it was frustrating as a spectator to see that all comments about it were ignored. Feel free to reach out if you want some asistance with the kits!

I can absolutely understand that. I have not being trying to do so, I love hammerhead and want to offer the best version of it to everyone, I was just blinded by a preset groupbuy date and, admittedly, did a poor job grasping the scale of feedback, I'm going to work towards learning and not making missteps like it moving forward.

I'm going to take some time to rethink things and I really appreciate your offer! May just take you up on that.
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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 12 June 2019, 09:52:24 »
What a disaster.. Hope the GB of new version won't take too long. I really love the deepwater set.
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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 12 June 2019, 09:57:19 »
Damn, am I the only one that wanted the core kit?

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 12 June 2019, 10:09:13 »
Damn, am I the only one that wanted the core kit?
I personally prefer the core kit, however had not joined the GB due to the issues previously raised. Once those are fixed (and providing ISO UK stays in), I will almost definitely be joining for the core colourway.

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #36 on: Wed, 12 June 2019, 10:18:37 »
Damn, am I the only one that wanted the core kit?
I personally prefer the core kit, however had not joined the GB due to the issues previously raised. Once those are fixed (and providing ISO UK stays in), I will almost definitely be joining for the core colourway.

I use ortho boards, so it was already perfect for my needs. Hopefully it doesn't take long to fix the issues and relaunch this.

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 12 June 2019, 10:23:57 »
While unfortunate, I am really happy with this decision, especially considering that this is such a nice colorway. As Oblotzky put it in a different thread, "A delayed set is eventually good, but a rushed set is forever bad."

We all appreciate the work you've put into this and I'm sure that after some polish it'll have an even stronger launch next time. Looking forward to the changes -- thanks!  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #38 on: Wed, 12 June 2019, 10:42:25 »
While unfortunate, I am really happy with this decision, especially considering that this is such a nice colorway. As Oblotzky put it in a different thread, "A delayed set is eventually good, but a rushed set is forever bad."

Love the quote and totally agree with the sentiment posted. Looking forward to the relaunch 👍

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #39 on: Wed, 12 June 2019, 11:25:54 »
While unfortunate, I am really happy with this decision, especially considering that this is such a nice colorway. As Oblotzky put it in a different thread, "A delayed set is eventually good, but a rushed set is forever bad."

We all appreciate the work you've put into this and I'm sure that after some polish it'll have an even stronger launch next time. Looking forward to the changes -- thanks!  :thumb:

That's actually a Miyamoto quote he's rephrasing: "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad"

It's a good quote about development in general. Oblotsky and Keylabs Chad are wise to adhere to it.

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #40 on: Wed, 12 June 2019, 12:47:35 »
what a pity!

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 12 June 2019, 13:12:24 »
Well the next one will be a better version.

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 13 June 2019, 00:15:43 »
thankgod.... for a sec I thought i missed the group by for one the few GMK sets that i actually like...
and yea the deep water one gucci AF XD lol XD

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 13 June 2019, 00:37:45 »
Okay.  So, to move forward, where do you want to collect input and iterate through different versions of the kits?  Did you want to unlock the old IC thread, or are you starting a new IC thread?  That discussion probably doesn't belong in the group buy forum.

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 13 June 2019, 00:53:39 »
Taking the group buy down must have been very difficult but I feel it was the best decision in the end.

I was looking forward to joining this group buy but I ultimately held back due to some issues with the kits.

I was planning to purchase the Deep Water base kit and the spacebar kit. Doing so, I expected I'll be able to get spacebars in the 3 offered colors in both 6.25u and 7u sizes. But in reality I would be missing spacebars but also had a few 6u/off-center spacebars which I do not need.

This is still a very awesome keycap set and I hope to purchase with more confidence when you ultimately bring this back to market.

Keep up the great work!!  ;D ;D :thumb:


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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 13 June 2019, 02:46:31 »
Smart decision. Hopefully it will show even better results next time.

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #46 on: Thu, 13 June 2019, 11:12:12 »
Would it be possible to get media and volume controls included somewhere in the kit?

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #47 on: Thu, 13 June 2019, 11:24:09 »
Would it be possible to get media and volume controls included somewhere in the kit?

OP had to cancel the GB due to the difficult kit design, with the base kit having too many keys as one of the problems. Yeah, let's throw some media keys in it.

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #48 on: Thu, 13 June 2019, 16:20:19 »
Would it be possible to get media and volume controls included somewhere in the kit?

OP had to cancel the GB due to the difficult kit design, with the base kit having too many keys as one of the problems. Yeah, let's throw some media keys in it.

They could be in the novelties kit or something.  Or the main kit could be pared down and a ďmoddingĒ kit could be added with things like the variants of the extra keys block, and variant colors of things like the arrow keys.  The kit is being reworked, so now is another chance for things like that to be considered.

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Re: [GB] GMK Hammerhead | Update 6/12 GB Taken Down
« Reply #49 on: Fri, 14 June 2019, 13:21:07 »
ive commented so many times, that I think most of the people would prefer the alternate alphas / now known as deep water kit and you should also make a EURO Kit for it :) But well I never got an answer to my questions and suggestions on the IC. I also didnt join because there was so much confusion especially right before the GB start and even after that. I really like this set and still would buy, if things are clarified beforehand. Keep your head up, everyone has to start somewhere. I bet your next GB will be successful.