Author Topic: logitech g500 (Read 32828 times)

typo · « **on:** Sat, 12 June 2010, 23:32:00 »

i had a mx518 and a g5. i always used the mx. i got the g500 and could not get used to the feel for weeks. it is shaped more like the g5 that i did not use.
plus i kept hitting the flip button on the left.

i was ready to toss it. then i figured out a good grip. now i love this mouse!
it is fast "and" precise. the wheel is looser than the mx but i got used to that as well.

i just wanted to say to anyone that finds the feel awkward. give it a few weeks to get used to it. this is the best mouse i ever have had. i also had the m9x. i like the g500 better.

i use sort of a low claw that is almost a palm with it now.

also, you need to use setpoint 5.4 i think. the 6.1 does not completely work with it. at least for me and according to logitech support.

you can get it online for less than $50. don't pay bb $70!

with this mouse and my new filco cherry blue i am very pleased. i use a computer to make a living 8-10 hours a day. i could not say how the mouse and keyboard are for gaming though.

gr1m · « **Reply #1 on:** Sat, 12 June 2010, 23:40:28 »

The G500 is indeed a great mouse. The only issue I had with Setpoint 6.1 was that the middle side button was not being recognized as a button and I was not able to bind it in games or Ventrilo. However, after assigning a random keypress to it (I think it was the Home button), I was able to bind it just like the other buttons.

Funnily enough, I had virtually no learning curve with the G500. I had just moved from a broken Deathadder (and that Deathadder took me around a ****ing YEAR to get used to) and my hand took to it immediately. It's phenomenal for gaming of course. The sensor is laser and still about as good as optical sensors, which is great. I also like that the scroll-wheel can side-scroll and has two different scrolling modes.

Yep, I love this mouse.
Oh, also, Logitech has legendary support. Some of the best support on the market IMO. That greatly facilitated my move from Razer (which is run by a bunch of "1337 g4m3r d00d" pricks).

EverythingIBM · « **Reply #2 on:** Sun, 13 June 2010, 00:57:22 »

$60 for a stupid G5? Man... that's way too much.
I could get a whole bunch of zoltrix mice:

(actually I seen one in a lot with 30 other mice, but I asked the seller if I could just have that one, never responded back). Haven't seen any others like that. But I think it looks cool, and the mouse wheel looks comfy (but scrollpoint kicks wheel butt).

gr1m · « **Reply #3 on:** Sun, 13 June 2010, 06:50:41 »

Quote from: EverythingIBM;192651

$60 for a stupid G5? Man... that's way too much.
I could get a whole bunch of zoltrix mice:
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(actually I seen one in a lot with 30 other mice, but I asked the seller if I could just have that one, never responded back). Haven't seen any others like that. But I think it looks cool, and the mouse wheel looks comfy (but scrollpoint kicks wheel butt).

$120 for a stupid Filco? I can get a whole bunch of *insert ****ty membrane keyboard* here.

typo · « **Reply #4 on:** Sun, 13 June 2010, 23:39:40 »

x2, gr1m! sheesh. a hyundai and a mb will both go and stop too lol. well, i will not trade you for my g500.

typo · « **Reply #5 on:** Tue, 15 June 2010, 03:19:38 »

i found a problem with the g500. it has something loose inside of it. it bangs around if you whip the mouse side to side. that has to suck for gaming. which is what it is built for. guys, could you please try yours? maybe mine is defective!

dfj · « **Reply #6 on:** Tue, 15 June 2010, 13:11:46 »

Quote from: typo;193210

i found a problem with the g500. it has something loose inside of it. it bangs around if you whip the mouse side to side. that has to suck for gaming. which is what it is built for. guys, could you please try yours? maybe mine is defective!

Le screwdriveure phillipes ou le hammer ball-peen...

srsly, open it up and figure it out - they not supposed to rattle. If there's a roach in there or something, take it out.
If it's an important looking piece, and it isn't clear how to fix it, post pics and folks will make unreasonable suggestions on what you should do - and much fun will be had by all.

dfj

gr1m · « **Reply #7 on:** Tue, 15 June 2010, 13:35:13 »

RMA it. Logitech will probably let you keep the old one too or something.

typo · « **Reply #8 on:** Tue, 15 June 2010, 18:09:13 »

indeed. logitech is known just to drop one in the mail. i'll call them and tell them. at least this is legit

typo · « **Reply #9 on:** Tue, 15 June 2010, 19:44:52 »

it is just the wheel moving if i whip it fast. that would seem normal for this rodent. given that the wheel moves in so many directions. it kind of "floats" when you are not touching it.

it's fine.

gr1m · « **Reply #10 on:** Tue, 15 June 2010, 20:34:32 »

My scroll wheel does make a noise when I move the mouse but it does not make deafening cracking noises or anything. Nothing more than a soft tick.

typo · « **Reply #11 on:** Tue, 15 June 2010, 22:43:20 »

it is just a little wobble. no big deal. i can see it is the design of this rodent. it is fine with me.

Phaedrus2129 · « **Reply #12 on:** Tue, 15 June 2010, 23:01:13 »

My G500's wheel does the same thing. Just a ticking sound as it wobbles back and forth. No biggie. Seem to do it a lot more in free spinning mode than tactile mode.

.Logic · « **Reply #13 on:** Wed, 23 June 2010, 10:44:10 »

I can't stand the g500s prediction/acceleration... It may be feature packed but for FPS games where you need your mouse to be consistent (e.g. quick flicks) it's almost useless. I'm in love with my Xai (no acceleration after latest firmware update) but even more so, my IM 3.0. it is an amazing mouse.

Arc'xer · « **Reply #14 on:** Wed, 23 June 2010, 15:06:21 »

Quote from: .Logic;195725

I can't stand the g500s prediction/acceleration... It may be feature packed but for FPS games where you need your mouse to be consistent (e.g. quick flicks) it's almost useless. I'm in love with my Xai (no acceleration after latest firmware update) but even more so, my IM 3.0. it is an amazing mouse.

You can turn them on or off, some people use them, it's not all bad. Xai/G500 use the same engine(ADNS-9500) except they use different models with the Xai using the more customizable version.

microsoft windows · « **Reply #15 on:** Wed, 23 June 2010, 18:13:02 »

Quote from: gr1m;192697

$120 for a stupid Filco? I can get a whole bunch of *insert ****ty membrane keyboard* here.

$120 for a Filco? I can get a whole bunch of IBM Model M's.

Too bad a Filco's a ****ty keyboard compared to the IBM.

didjamatic · « **Reply #16 on:** Wed, 23 June 2010, 18:36:11 »

gr1m · « **Reply #17 on:** Wed, 23 June 2010, 19:28:18 »

I haven't played CEVO in a few years admittedly but I loaded up CSS to test your theory and the accel is not that bad.

typo · « **Reply #18 on:** Thu, 24 June 2010, 02:10:32 »

guys, is the sidewinder or xai better than the g500 for general windows use(not gaming)?
i am happy with the g500 but i was just wondering. actually i like the mx518 on my other machine a little better.

.Logic · « **Reply #19 on:** Thu, 24 June 2010, 10:30:06 »

Quote from: gr1m;195860

I haven't played CEVO in a few years admittedly but I loaded up CSS to test your theory and the accel is not that bad.

There's your problem, you were playing SOURCE

Just kidding

Yea the accel probably isn't that bad but for me even a little throws me off. The Xai does still suffer a little negative accel at very high speeds and low sensitivity and for that reason I still use an IM 3.0 at major LANs... I do find the Xai incredibly comfortable however and the buttons are feel nice with a solid click to them.

Arc'xer · « **Reply #20 on:** Thu, 24 June 2010, 12:41:53 »

Quote from: typo;195896

guys, is the sidewinder or xai better than the g500 for general windows use(not gaming)?
i am happy with the g500 but i was just wondering. actually i like the mx518 on my other machine a little better.

Sidewinder was a big hit and miss with most gamers. Bluetrack didn't really live up to the hype, from what some have said it's a good mouse but it just misses on some areas.

The Xai and G500 both use the ADNS-9500 engine, the Xai uses the A-version and the S-version is used by the 500. The Xai has more customization like modifying the polling rate to match the refresh rate for example 60/120hz and 500hz don't go together so 480 and 600hz are even dividers of the polling rate and refresh rate. And other features like DPI settings per 1 count unlike the G500. The G500 is based on the 518/G5 shape, while the Xai is based on the IO-1.1 but with a larger hump. There's also a few posts on the Xai here on this forum mentioned by lmnop and a few others with some good information.

It's hard to say which is better both should perform just about the same. I think the Xai is better based on all the extra features despite the size. Not to say the G500 is bad, but seems like the Xai is time and time again mentioned by many.

Your G500 is better than the 518, 518 has mouse prediction and polling rate is stuck at 125hz. I know some have tried to get it to 250/500 but it seems to cause more harm than good. Not to say the 518 is bad but it's not king of the hill anymore.

gr1m · « **Reply #21 on:** Thu, 24 June 2010, 16:39:47 »

Xai is cool but since they have the same sensor and the G500 is more comfortable (since I'm used to a Deathadder grip) I saved the money and got my G500 for $50 CAD shipped. I can't really find good prices on the Xai.

typo · « **Reply #22 on:** Fri, 25 June 2010, 01:00:50 »

i was going to trade the g500 towards the xai. when i tried it i found it not as comfortable and it has 3 less buttons as far as i can tell. it is real cool though. i do not know if i would need all those adjustments for just using windows and c#.

gr1m · « **Reply #23 on:** Fri, 25 June 2010, 01:10:15 »

Well, this is my breakdown of Xai vs. G500:

G500: feature-packed
Xai: back-to-basics

Same sensor, different styles. I got sick of the back-to-basics mouse after using a vanilla Deathadder (1800dpi 3G, the best sensor ever made bar none, not their new 3.5G ****) for 2 years, so I went for a feature-packed one this time and I'm happy with it.

ch_123 · « **Reply #24 on:** Fri, 25 June 2010, 04:17:31 »

Never tried the G500. The G5 is pretty nice, a relative has one and I've used it a good bit. My main problem with it is that the middle mouse button sucks. The finish on it is a bit of an acquired taste to say the least...

microsoft windows · « **Reply #25 on:** Fri, 25 June 2010, 11:21:07 »

The G5 isn't nice. Crapple made it.

itlnstln · « **Reply #26 on:** Fri, 25 June 2010, 12:17:02 »

Damn, what is that? A sausage sandwich?*

*That's not something I would want to be in the middle of.

ch_123 · « **Reply #27 on:** Fri, 25 June 2010, 12:26:51 »

Quote from: microsoft windows;196288

The G5 isn't nice. Crapple made it.

This was an aborted fetus of a troll.

ch_123 · « **Reply #28 on:** Fri, 25 June 2010, 12:48:52 »

I thought you were talking about poitín for a minute...

ch_123 · « **Reply #29 on:** Fri, 25 June 2010, 13:02:33 »

Now you know where you Americans got the idea for moonshine from...

itlnstln · « **Reply #30 on:** Fri, 25 June 2010, 13:47:33 »

Thus the US Whiskey Rebellion, which, if I'm not mistaken, involved largely western settlers of Irish descent.

I knew my History degree would come in handy at some point. I'm probably still wrong about the whole thing.

EverythingIBM · « **Reply #31 on:** Fri, 25 June 2010, 18:39:58 »

Quote from: ripster;196320

Troll posts make me hungry.

So a couple of weeks ago I tried Poutine for the first time. Actually tasted good but I was smart enough to not eat the whole thing.
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Yuck! It looks like someone took a crap, puked, then mixed it in a blender: voila, poutine.

kishy · « **Reply #32 on:** Fri, 25 June 2010, 18:42:32 »

Yet another Canadian thing you dislike. Shame on you.

Poutine is absolutely fantastic.

gr1m · « **Reply #33 on:** Fri, 25 June 2010, 18:42:47 »

Poutine is awesome. Ripster, where did you eat it? If you didn't eat it in Quebec, you didn't get the proper experience.

microsoft windows · « **Reply #34 on:** Fri, 25 June 2010, 19:33:28 »

Quote from: ripster;195850

Why, between these two posts I'd have to conclude....

It's A Crap!
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Oh look. You can tell by the lay-out of that keyboard the real troll's one of them Topre lovers.

typo · « **Reply #35 on:** Sat, 26 June 2010, 00:39:55 »

i lived in quebec and i know they love it. i am a vegan though.

i think the xai is just so geeky with all it's adjustments. uber cool. i want the extra buttons and feel i prefer though. plus i got my g500 for $35usd by haggling at bb.

EverythingIBM · « **Reply #36 on:** Sat, 26 June 2010, 10:46:20 »

Quote from: kishy;196450

Yet another Canadian thing you dislike. Shame on you.
Poutine is absolutely fantastic.

I never tried it, never will. I prefer pizza & juice.

Quote from: ripster;196457

Quebec is weird.

That's exactly what I was thinking... yeah... Quebec does feel like a foreign country. You practically trip on liberals.

kishy · « **Reply #37 on:** Sat, 26 June 2010, 13:54:56 »

Quote from: EverythingIBM;196666

That's exactly what I was thinking... yeah... Quebec does feel like a foreign country. You practically trip on liberals.

I've got news for you...the rest of the country views where you are as a foreign country.

Conservatives need to GTFO.

typo · « **Reply #38 on:** Sat, 26 June 2010, 22:16:04 »

i read a review that stated the xai has tactile switches that "click", ala mx blues. whereas the g500 uses micro switches that have no tactile feedback. uh, i have a g500 right here. that is news to me. granted, the xai' buttons are harder to depress but it does not click any "better" than the g500 imo. i could see where the xai is vastly superior for gaming at lans due to the multitude of onboard settings but i feel the g500 is a much better non gaming mouse. i can see why people have issues with it though. it is in fact marketed as a gaming mouse. in that respect maybe it is not the best. i wouldn't know.

hey, i'd like to take a momemnt to say i love this adesso! everyone, stuff a $75 bill in your pocket and go run and buy one lol. no, i do not work for them i speak english!

now, i return you to your regularly scheduled disgusting culinary and libation discussion!

gr1m · « **Reply #39 on:** Sat, 26 June 2010, 22:23:10 »

Non-gaming? Are you serious? You DO know that you take your own computer with you to LANs right? So this onboard setting bull**** is useless? Unless you want to install Counter-Strike on your grandmother's computer which for some reason cannot handle Steelseries drivers and play with your Xai.

How on earth is the G500 not a good gaming mouse? It has one of the best sensors on the market and the right and left click work. That's all you need to be a good gaming mouse.

typo · « **Reply #40 on:** Sat, 26 June 2010, 23:14:10 »

i have no idea. i was going by some review i saw. i don't know anything about gaming personally.

what about the switches? other than being harder to press the xai does not seem to have a "tactile feel" that the g500 is lacking. i guess it is a review by an idiot. i do not even remember where i saw it now.

for my needs as a non gamer i find the g500 vastly superior. both in comfort and function.
i suppose it is in fact darn good for games as well. of course there is that acceleration bs they talk about but the xai would have it as well then!

gr1m · « **Reply #41 on:** Sat, 26 June 2010, 23:21:23 »

Well, I never noticed acceleration until somebody mentioned it. Then I went into Setpoint and set acceleration to 0.

Tactile feel won't really make a gamer's mouse. The funny thing is, out of REAL professional gamers (and not people who play amateur leagues like CAL and CEVO), 98% use Intellimice.

typo · « **Reply #42 on:** Sun, 27 June 2010, 16:50:03 »

apparently the xai has the more customizable version of the sensor and the g500 has the more advanced version. hence the higher max dpi of the g500.

i took them both apart today. the xai is rather simple if one is going by parts count.

the wheel assy. for the g500 is rather complex as are other parts of the mouse.

i have read the teflon feet are not standard on the xai, that can't be right i'd hope.

both mice use the same style of microswitches on all their buttons. so much for the xai having some special tactile feel. which in fact i did not notice when i used it. so whomever stated that was in fact wrong.

i was trying to find a reason to have a xai but with the g500 and being a non gamer i cannot find one.

typo · « **Reply #43 on:** Mon, 28 June 2010, 22:26:10 »

the g500 is really too heavy without the weights even. the xai is too lite! i still prefer the g500. i accidently hit the left buttons on the xai and i cannot hit the right buttons without completely taking my hand off the mouse. i guess the perfect mouse for me does not exist yet. the xai is nicer for claw grip though. the button placement makes it kind of useless to me. then again the middle side button on the g500 gets in my way but i never accidently press it. the buttons are too easy to press on the xai imo. well, thats the left buttons. i cant even reach the right buttons. i think the xai is more comfortable but not being able to use the buttons, or lack thereof is a problem for me.

strange thing. if i google "xai" this site comes up with a lot of info. if you use this sites search it does not come up!

gr1m · « **Reply #44 on:** Mon, 28 June 2010, 22:41:31 »

I have the heaviest weights in my G500.

Moogle Stiltzkin · « **Reply #45 on:** Sat, 18 September 2010, 23:40:20 »

I went from a normal mouse to the Logitech MX518 to the Razer Death Adder then finally to the Logitech G500 in that order.

The MX518 was one of the most comfortable mouse i ever used until it broke.

The Death Adder was a disaster i should never have bought. Sweat builds up on the plastic really easily. I didn't like the touch of it because of the hard plastic at the sides. The shiny plastic reminds me of some cheap quality build. The wheel can easily get dirty as well. My hand was aching a lot after using the Death Adder bottom line i hated it.

Then i went for a G500 which is basically an updated model of the MX518. MX518 was replaced by the G5 which in return was replaced by the G500.

The G500 has the same mold as the MX518 but updated as it has a neat wheel feature, the sides were texture which was nice to touch and have a good grip on the mouse compared to the Death Adder which was slick and shiny.

It's easy to adjust the DPI speed using the buttons on the mouse which was good. The scroller wheel can be toggled between 2 different modes. a Stiff wheel and a free rolling wheel. I use both for different situations :}

People complained that the middle button is a bit of a pain to click, and i sort of agree. But then again i never really bother middle clicking anyway.

Other complaints by others was regarding the side keys which was a bit of a sore because you can accidentally press another unintended key if you aren't careful. Yeah it does sort of feel like that, but then again i don't use the side keys at all.

So what matter to me was the nice scroller, dpi switch, weights, aesthetically pleasing mouse, comfortable to hold, nice texturing.

It's not perfect but it works for me :}

PS: The logitech Setpoint software is MUCH MUCH better than the Razer i used for the Death Adder. I have full control for configuring the mouse. I'm still tweaking it gradually to find the g spot, but atm i quite satisfied. I do use the light weights :} People complain about the weight but i am pretty ok with it. Even without any weights it feels light enough for me.

typo · « **Reply #46 on:** Tue, 21 September 2010, 18:02:58 »

i have grown to love this mouse. i never accidently press the side buttons.

setpoint does not completely work with the g500 on any of my machines. when you install the new setpoint it downgrades to 5 something. thats fine with me though

ironman31 · « **Reply #47 on:** Fri, 24 September 2010, 20:45:32 »

I prefer the g5. I think it's mostly because of the scroll wheel. Even when the g500 is locked it still feels like it has too much momentum when you scroll with it. I also prefer the finish of the g5 over the g500 for the rougher feel.

MahBoi · « **Reply #48 on:** Sat, 25 September 2010, 01:16:30 »

The G500 is a pretty nice mouse. I got it on eBay back when I was a more active gamer; these days I tend to play games when I have nothing else to do. Even for standard use, it has some decent features, specifically the side buttons and the free wheel scroll mode. Even though I have a bit of buyer's remorse because I paid $70.00 for it and now don't even use most of the features it touts (seriously, who uses 5700 dpi?), it's still a quality mouse and feels comfortable enough for me to keep it around.

One note about the weights: Though I thought they were a pretty useless feature at first, I find that I need to keep the max weights in to improve the tracking. I don't necessarily like the extra friction, but without them, I get the squiggly cursor syndrome which is turrible, just turrible. It seems to happen on just about every surface I try without the weights. So while some may prefer with and some without, I basically need to have them in.

Arc'xer · « **Reply #49 on:** Sat, 25 September 2010, 04:20:01 »

Quote from: MahBoi;226524

One note about the weights: Though I thought they were a pretty useless feature at first, I find that I need to keep the max weights in to improve the tracking. I don't necessarily like the extra friction, but without them, I get the squiggly cursor syndrome which is turrible, just turrible. It seems to happen on just about every surface I try without the weights. So while some may prefer with and some without, I basically need to have them in.

You need to up the DPI, you probably set it too low compared to your screen resolution and it's not reading enough. Should also remove the acceleration if you have it on. And untick use native OS drivers for pointer speed and acceleration. That way it runs off the logitech software and change the speed to 5 and acceleration to 0. 5 = 1:1 movement or 6/11 on windows.

The jitter movement probably means angle snapping is off. So either your previous mouse had mouse correction by default(it draws straight lines in place of following your hand movements).

Or

If it's the other jitter that I've encountered then either the mouse is defective or it could be the mouse feet. I noticed a bit of jittering when you remove the mouse feet and use it without.

Best guess is the laser needs a certain amount of distance from the surface or something like that.

Strange though because the Avago 9500 reads like a standard laser it has no Z-axis or surface reading well except the surface analyzer like on the Mionix.

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