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[GB] J-02 60% GB Done - Shipping to Vendors + UPDATE
« on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 17:21:07 »
UPDATE 10/10/2020

Hey folks, Wanted to make a quick announcement on the J-02 GB - There is both good news, and meh news to share...

Lets start with the good news:
All manufacturing has been finished and all vendors have the boards in transit to them! Some vendors already have them on hand (MyKeyboard have their allocation of Standard Editions on hand, and I have the Limited Edition ones I sold on hand. iLumKB and Upas have their boards on the way and should arrive within the next few weeks.

The 'Meh' news:
All Black and LE boards have been manufactured to spec. The Grey boards have been produced in a lighter shade of grey than we requested. I worked with the manu to adapt a colour to the grey prototype shown in pictures and on streams etc (same grey as the Lodestone base, J-01 base, and the J-02 Prototype). The manufacturer is not willing to refinish these boards (This is due to the fact that re-finishing can have a significant and detrimental impact on quality of the final finish of the aluminium parts), and has sent them to the vendors despite Upas trying his best to get them to resolve prior to shipping. You can see a picture below comparing the prototype finish top compared to the production board.




What does this mean?
Firstly - dont fear! We have some options and have taken some actions already.
All of the vendors have agreed to purchase additional units to be made in the correct Grey and Upas has arranged this with the manufacturer. This gives all grey J-02 buyers a choice. Either take the grey boards as they have been produced in the lighter grey shipping asap, OR, wait for the correct grey boards to be produced (targeting January as a manufacturing date). Each of the vendors will issue a form to their Grey J-02 customers so they can make an informed choice.
The boards that are left over of either the light grey or the correct grey will then be sold as extras at the vendors discretion.

I know this is not what people expected, and I am really sorry to have to share this news. The lighter grey actually looks spectacular, but its not the colour I envisioned and as such I offer my humblest apologies for any buyer affected. If anyone wants to discuss this with me - my DM's are open, although I cannot discuss Orders individually - these will need to be taken up with your vendor.


TL/DR:
Grey boards made in too light of a Grey - Manufacturer won't replace/re-finish
Black and LE boards unaffected
Grey boards being re-manufactured in the correct colour
All Grey J-02 customers will have a choice - receive the lighter grey asap, or wait and get the darker grey

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Hello everybody

This is the Group Buy for my second board, the J-02. A fully featured 60% with Brass internal weighting, removable pen rail, full isolation mount design, carbon fibre plate and with a USB-C daughterboard.

After the success in proving the execution of my first board (the J-01; more info and pics/videos HERE and a build stream HERE ), I wanted to do something a little less extreme from a layout perspective and that was more accessible both in terms of layout options and availability.



ALL GB Slots filled - US sold out in 2 mins. Now moving towards Production



All information will be posted here and on my Discord Server - https://discord.gg/MGVQCVG

I'll be covering the J-02 on my Sunday build stream - talking about changes to design, adhesive gaskets and other stuff - noon PST, 3pm EST and 8pm GMT on Sunday 02/02/2020 at https://www.twitch.tv/topclack - VOD HERE




Features

Link to the Interest Check - HERE
Link to the Build Stream - HERE
  • Full Isolation Gasket Mount
  • USB-C via a daughterboard
  • Custom 60% PCB with JST breakout and ISO/ANSI support
  • Fixed Carbon Fibre Plates Ė offering ISO and ANSI variants - layouts avail in IC thread (plate files avail once GB starts)
  • Unique Pen Rail Ė Magnet Mounted
  • Thick brass middle and Pen rail for weight and aesthetics (copper on Limited Edition)
  • Top and bottom are anodised aluminium Ė Space Grey or Black for Standard Edition, E-White/Black for Limited Edition
  • Tops will be available in WKL, full 60 and HHKB
  • 7 degree typing angle
  • Comes with a handy travel case for protection


Options

Limited Edition
  • E-white/Black Top Case
  • WKL, HHKB or 60% options
  • E-white / Black Bottom Case
  • Copper middle weight
  • Copper Pen Rail
  • 12 Magnets
  • Hardware & Bumpons
  • Triple Layer Gasket
  • PCB (QMK Compat)
  • Daughterboard / Cable
  • Carbon Fibre Plate (fixed ISO or fixed ANSI) - Layouts avail in IC
  • Travel Case

Standard Edition
  • Black or Space Grey Top Case
  • WKL, HHKB or 60% options
  • Black or Space Grey Bottom Case
  • Brass middle weight
  • Brass Pen Rail
  • 12 Magnets
  • Hardware & Bumpons
  • Triple Layer Gasket
  • PCB (QMK Compat)
  • Daughterboard / Cable
  • Carbon Fibre Plate (fixed ISO or fixed ANSI) - Layouts avail in IC
  • Travel Case


Pricing / Vendors / Dates

Limited Edition
US - Cannon Keys (Upas) / EU - Jae
$625 @ Cannon Keys / Ä625 @ Jae (15 units)

Asia - iLumKB - (iLouis_07 | iLumkb.com)
845 SGD - (5 Units avail)

Standard Edition
US - Cannon Keys
$460 (100 units avail)

EU - MyKeyboard.eu ‎
Ä460 (50 Units avail)

Asia - iLumKB - (iLouis_07 | iLumkb.com)
620 SGD - (50 Units avail)



Construction



Prototype Images


Renders
GMK Cafe By Langelandia - Render by Janglad

GMK MoDo Light by Janglad and Dixie - Render by Janglad

GMK 9009 R3 by Janglad and Dixie - Render by Janglad

KAT Oasis by JSaints - Render by Manzel

GMK Bingsu by Project Keyboard - Render by UB

GMK Copper by FatboyCarney - Render by Metallic Charles

GMK Noel by Agilr - Render by Metallic Charles

GMK Nines by Emir - Render by UB

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Live 01st Feb, Standard Edition 8th Feb)
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 17:21:19 »
Reserved

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Live 01st Feb, Standard Edition 8th Feb)
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 20:56:24 »
Fantastic stuff, Mr. J. Will try my luck with the limited edition.
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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Live 01st Feb, Standard Edition 8th Feb)
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 21:00:08 »
Good luck to all that enter the LE raffle  :)

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Live 01st Feb, Standard Edition 8th Feb)
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 21:04:14 »
Iím really glad HHKB become available as a case top


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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Live 01st Feb, Standard Edition 8th Feb)
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 21:15:13 »
Such a beautiful board, great job Jae! Good luck to everyone in for the LE this weekend.  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Live 01st Feb, Standard Edition 8th Feb)
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 21:22:05 »
Can't wait, wonderful looking board!

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Live 01st Feb, Standard Edition 8th Feb)
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 23:53:06 »
just want to make sure canada is lumped into us?

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Live 01st Feb, Standard Edition 8th Feb)
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 00:35:42 »
just want to make sure canada is lumped into us?

Yes thatís currently the plan due to proximity. If youíd rather ship from the EU you can buy the standard edition on MyKeyboard.EU, or specify on the Limited Edition form 


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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Live 01st Feb, Standard Edition 8th Feb)
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 01:53:20 »
Iím really glad HHKB become available as a case top


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I'm really glad we added it. The original IC didnt show much interest for it, but the sense check a couple of weeks ago showed it was highly popular.

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Live 01st Feb, Standard Edition 8th Feb)
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 03:45:57 »
Iíve been using my j01 almost exclusively since i built it 2 months ago and I am quite excited to add a 60% j series to the rotation. The sound, feel, looks, design, and pure sex appeal of the j series makes it a MUST have. Amazing board by an amazing designer and person.

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Live 01st Feb, Standard Edition 8th Feb)
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 06:57:29 »
Iíve been using my j01 almost exclusively since i built it 2 months ago and I am quite excited to add a 60% j series to the rotation. The sound, feel, looks, design, and pure sex appeal of the j series makes it a MUST have. Amazing board by an amazing designer and person.

Damn - how much do I need to pay you for that review  :eek: ;D

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Live 01st Feb, Standard Edition 8th Feb)
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 08:38:10 »
I love using my J01 and I know the J02 is going to have further refinements to take the experience to even another level. Kudos to Jae for the real innovation in design and moving the hobby forward. Outstanding. 

Iím in for the LE raffle. Thamk you!

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Live 01st Feb, Standard Edition 8th Feb)
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 09:00:25 »
Limited Edition Forms Live!!

US / EU / AUS Form  HERE
Asia Form HERE

Open for 48 hours - winners drawn Monday and invoiced on Tuesday.

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Raffle Live!!)
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 10:02:39 »
In on the LE raffle. Hell, I'm not even mad if I don't win. I'll be happy to pick up the standard edition instead!

Great job Jae!

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Raffle Live!!)
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 10:19:20 »
Will I be able to get one of the asia LEs eventhough im from Germany?

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Raffle Live!!)
« Reply #16 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 10:21:16 »
Will I be able to get one of the asia LEs eventhough im from Germany?


Germany should fill out the EU/US form - assuming you win an LE slot it would ship from the UK.

Standard edition for Germany will be on Mykeyboard.EU shipping from the EU directly


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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Raffle Live!!)
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 11:04:41 »
Now the wait...

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Raffle Live!!)
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 12:38:21 »
Now the wait...

LE winners will be announced on Monday after the entry closes and invoices out on Tuesday.

Standard edition starts on the 8th at 10am EST!!


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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Raffle Live!!)
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 02 February 2020, 01:28:08 »
Just posting a small update on numbers of entries for the Limited Edition so far;

Us / EU - 295
Asia - 100


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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Raffle Live!!)
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 02 February 2020, 05:53:10 »
Just posting a small update on numbers of entries for the Limited Edition so far;

Us / EU - 295
Asia - 100


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Wow, your ratio allocations of 15/5 to US+EU/ASIA is matching those numbers so accurately!

Looks like chances are gonna be slim for LE raffle participants


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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Raffle Live!!)
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 02 February 2020, 10:18:03 »
Just posting a small update on numbers of entries for the Limited Edition so far;

Us / EU - 295
Asia - 100


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Wow, your ratio allocations of 15/5 to US+EU/ASIA is matching those numbers so accurately!

Looks like chances are gonna be slim for LE raffle participants


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314 now for EU/USA :D

TBH I'm hugely surprised by the turnout. I'm hoping SE next Saturday goes smoothly too.

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Raffle Live!!)
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 02 February 2020, 13:14:13 »
oof 314 for le. there goes that chance.

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Raffle Live!!)
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 02 February 2020, 13:23:42 »
Stream showing the J-02 and discussing some of the changes made (such as adhesive gaskets, brass midpeice mounting and others) starts over on https://www.twitch.tv/topclack in just over 30 mins

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Raffle Live!!)
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 03 February 2020, 00:49:35 »
Damn that's a lot of people fighting for 15 spots, I know my luck was never good with these. Atleast SE seems more plausible.

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Raffle Live!!)
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 04 February 2020, 03:00:33 »
Thank you to everyone that entered for the Limited Edition spots.

We had over 380 responses for the Eu/US and over 120 for Asia (over 500 in total!!!)

The draw will take place later today as I and the vendors work through the detail and will be announced around 10pm GMT on 4th Feb (today). Currently Iím talking with the vendors about the demand and removing a small number duplicates (not counted in the above numbers))

Thanks again for all your support and I look forwards to the Standard Edition on the 8th February - reminder itís a 10am EST launch on Cannon Keys, MyKeyboard.eu and ilumkb!


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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Raffle Live!!)
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 04 February 2020, 15:32:47 »
Hi folks,

This post is to announce the EU/US winners of the Limited Edition J-02. Asia winners will be announced tomorrow as @iLouis_07 | iLumkb.com  is asleep :D

We had over 500 entries across the EU/US and Asia forms - way more demand than I anticipated. With this in mind we have made a slight change to the number of LE units avail:

EU / US has increased from 15 units to 20 Units
Asia has increased from 5 Units to 10 Units

This decision was made due to the volume of demand.



EU / US J-02 Limited Edition winners were selected using an online random list picker, and are as follows:

Lunr - Geekhack
Cedric#1852 - Discord
Fu362 - Geekhack
Morgan3wheeler - Reddit
Skewed#4033 - Discord
Penguindroppings - Reddit
Voxkey#0165 - Discord
FatboyCarney - Discord
Carcha#9628 - Discord
physkey#2570 - Discord
Japanesehorrorwriter - Geekhack
Clay#1500 - Discord
Subluxe#0001 - Discord
AaronR - Geekhack
Shansoft - Geekhack
tintaps - Reddit
G-force - Discord
lbaron - Geekhack
soft#5706 - Discord
Urbantheii#9650 - Discord

Congrats to all winners!!

Upas and I will be reaching out with invoices in the next day or so. Asia winners announced tomorrow

Sorry to all those that missed out - the Standard Edition goes on sale @ https://cannonkeys.com/, https://ilumkb.com/ and https://mykeyboard.eu/ on the 8th February at 10am EST - hope to see you there!!!

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Raffle Live!!)
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 04 February 2020, 17:57:34 »
I recognize some of those names. Rigged.

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Raffle Live!!)
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 04 February 2020, 21:54:06 »
Hi Everyone,

This post is to announce the Asia winners of the Limited Edition J-02(by ILUMKB.com).

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% (Limited Edition Raffle Live!!)
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 07 February 2020, 18:25:20 »
Reminder folks - the Standard Edition Group buy starts at 10am EST or when this message is 14hours 30mins old.

You can find it at;

Cannon Keys for the USA (100 units)
Mykeyboard.eu for Europe (50 units)
Ilumkb for Asia (50 units)

Choice of space grey or black case with brass accents.

Tops come in WKL, 60 and hhkb layouts.

Plates offered in ANSI/HHKB or ISO layouts.

All information available on Discord; https://discord.gg/ndat429

And insta; https://www.instagram.com/p/B8RSju3nRdb/?igshid=1ilm86np8syyg




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Re: [GB] J-02 60% GROUP BUY STARTS AT 10AM EST Worldwide
« Reply #30 on: Sat, 08 February 2020, 05:37:14 »
These will go fast 👀

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« Reply #31 on: Sat, 08 February 2020, 06:50:24 »
Will there be an option for an additional PCB?

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% GROUP BUY STARTS AT 10AM EST Worldwide
« Reply #32 on: Sat, 08 February 2020, 08:18:55 »
Ship mine with a pack of hobnobs or else...

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% GROUP BUY STARTS AT 10AM EST Worldwide
« Reply #33 on: Sat, 08 February 2020, 08:19:57 »
Will there be an option for an additional PCB?

Yes - the vendors are offering additional PCBs and plates

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« Reply #34 on: Sat, 08 February 2020, 09:04:29 »
im in  :thumb:

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« Reply #35 on: Sat, 08 February 2020, 09:05:00 »
Got in as well!  :thumb:

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« Reply #36 on: Sat, 08 February 2020, 09:05:25 »
Had more luck this time. HHKB J-02 here we come.  :D

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% GROUP BUY STARTS AT 10AM EST Worldwide
« Reply #37 on: Sat, 08 February 2020, 09:09:58 »
In as well, but there didn't seem to be any extra pcb/plates on cannonkeys

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% GROUP BUY STARTS AT 10AM EST Worldwide
« Reply #38 on: Sat, 08 February 2020, 09:10:15 »
couldn't process on ilumkb :((((

been trying since launch now im gonna be so sad if i can't get my hand on it

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% GROUP BUY STARTS AT 10AM EST Worldwide
« Reply #39 on: Sat, 08 February 2020, 09:25:31 »
Got in also. Super hyped for this one!

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% GROUP BUY STARTS AT 10AM EST Worldwide
« Reply #40 on: Sat, 08 February 2020, 09:26:59 »
@Jae-3soteric

Apologies if this has been already posted but are there comparison images between black and space grey? The color shown on CannonKeys is what I'm leaning towards which I'm guessing is black?  While it looks great, I would not mind it if it was somewhat lighter, kind of like how Apple does it which is kind of what I'm hoping space grey is.


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Re: [GB] J-02 60% GROUP BUY STARTS AT 10AM EST Worldwide
« Reply #41 on: Sat, 08 February 2020, 09:58:53 »
Ordered mine along with an extra Plate and PCB from MyKeyboard.

What's the best way to communicate that I want one ISO and one ANSI Plate?
The form linked in the description on MyKeyboard only allows one Plate option.

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% GROUP BUY STARTS AT 10AM EST Worldwide
« Reply #42 on: Sat, 08 February 2020, 10:02:22 »
im in  :thumb:

Awesome!!

Had more luck this time. HHKB J-02 here we come.  :D

HHKB gang out in force!

couldn't process on ilumkb :((((

been trying since launch now im gonna be so sad if i can't get my hand on it

Still a couple on Mykeyboard!!

Got in as well!  :thumb:

Naisu!!

Got in also. Super hyped for this one!

YES!!

Ordered mine along with an extra Plate and PCB from MyKeyboard.

What's the best way to communicate that I want one ISO and one ANSI Plate?
The form linked in the description on MyKeyboard only allows one Plate option.

Just DM NecrowomanX

@Jae-3soteric

Apologies if this has been already posted but are there comparison images between black and space grey? The color shown on CannonKeys is what I'm leaning towards which I'm guessing is black?  While it looks great, I would not mind it if it was somewhat lighter, kind of like how Apple does it which is kind of what I'm hoping space grey is.



There are pics on my insta of the space Grey IRL - https://www.instagram.com/jae_keebs/


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Re: [GB] J-02 60% GROUP BUY STARTS AT 10AM EST Worldwide
« Reply #43 on: Sat, 08 February 2020, 10:26:37 »
@Jae-3soteric

Sadly I'm from Thailand and mykeyboard doesn't ship here.

I was trying on ilum since minute 0 til 30 mins has been passed until it is sold out

Super sad here, probably gonna wait for the next batch then :((((

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% GROUP BUY STARTS AT 10AM EST Worldwide
« Reply #44 on: Sat, 08 February 2020, 10:49:20 »
@Jae-3soteric

Sadly I'm from Thailand and mykeyboard doesn't ship here.

I was trying on ilum since minute 0 til 30 mins has been passed until it is sold out

Super sad here, probably gonna wait for the next batch then :((((

Sent you a DM as they will ship outside EU

Offline sortofsleepy

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% GROUP BUY STARTS AT 10AM EST Worldwide
« Reply #45 on: Sat, 08 February 2020, 10:57:24 »

@Jae-3soteric

Apologies if this has been already posted but are there comparison images between black and space grey? The color shown on CannonKeys is what I'm leaning towards which I'm guessing is black?  While it looks great, I would not mind it if it was somewhat lighter, kind of like how Apple does it which is kind of what I'm hoping space grey is.


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There are pics on my insta of the space Grey IRL - https://www.instagram.com/jae_keebs/

Ah ok so the silver looking one is space gray I'm assuming. Gotcha! Black it is!  ...well..hmmm... I'll make up my mind at some point.

Thanks Jae!

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% GROUP BUY STARTS AT 10AM EST Worldwide
« Reply #46 on: Sat, 08 February 2020, 11:04:24 »
Damn, all of the Asia and US boards have been sold. Good thing im in EU. Not getting in on this would`ve broken my heart.

Offline MacGyver214

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% GROUP BUY STARTS AT 10AM EST Worldwide
« Reply #47 on: Sat, 08 February 2020, 15:19:43 »
I cannot express the sorrow I feel that I woke up late this morning to find they had all been sold out already. Today is a sad day for me...

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% GROUP BUY STARTS AT 10AM EST Worldwide
« Reply #48 on: Sat, 08 February 2020, 21:36:04 »
i would have got one if it was a 65 looks soooo good

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Re: [GB] J-02 60% GROUP BUY STARTS AT 10AM EST Worldwide
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 04:44:16 »
Damn, all of the Asia and US boards have been sold. Good thing im in EU. Not getting in on this would`ve broken my heart.


Us and Asia sold out very quickly (2 mins for all 100 in USA)

EU was expected to take a little longer and did as you couldnít complete checkout unless you had an EU address. If that had been open I suspect they would have sold just as fast as US


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