How might i like Kaihua speed silver for typing?

[typo]

I set my R2's to the highest actuation and I do not like to bottom out. that is why I like Cherry blacks and clears. The Kaith actually is heavy at the end of travel AFAIK. I have heard it is possible to barely touch it and never bottom out if one is careful? It says for gaming but it sounds right up my alley for my typing style. Do you think I would quickly tire of it or might really like them? I am just asking because I am looking at a fantastic deal on a Korean custom that has them. I mainly use my one board, but more is better right? I seriously do intend to use it though not collect dust. so it does need to work for me. Can people type on these or are they just for gaming? I also noticed the speed is 70 million cycles and the other Kaithes are 80 million. is that just mincing tomato's already? I am not young so I imagine at this point either out lives me. I don't think I ever even hit 50 million on a Cherry switch. I am not entirely sure. I have had some fail but I doubt because I passed their lifespan. anyways I am more concerned given my typing style I describe if I might like these things? Since I love this keyboard and IMO he is offering me to give it away. Since according to him no one else likes these switches. That makes me wary though. Thank you

[rxc92]

Typing is much, much better on the lowest actuation point. It increases your accuracy significantly, I'd say you should check that out before trying to get a whole new keyboard.

[typo]

That is strange. I prefer the highest.  I just wanted this because he will give it to me real cheap. I was not sure the silver was actually usable?

[typo]

Well, I figured I better jump on it regardless. I got a built TX87SE V2 with the Kaith silvers and Vortex PBT double shot for $225 +25 shipping. I figured it was worth $250 any way you cut it unless he somehow has destroyed it which he said it is in like new condition. That was a heck of a deal. In fact not only do I not think those switches are bad I probably will like them. I was watching a bunch of typing demos before I got it. I like keys so if you sneeze they register. I also do not like bottoming out. Of course I will still mainly use my board I shall not mention lest the trolls show up.

[Sintpinty]

Well, I figured I better jump on it regardless. I got a built TX87SE V2 with the Kaith silvers and Vortex PBT double shot for $225 +25 shipping. I figured it was worth $250 any way you cut it unless he somehow has destroyed it which he said it is in like new condition. That was a heck of a deal. In fact not only do I not think those switches are bad I probably will like them. I was watching a bunch of typing demos before I got it. I like keys so if you sneeze they register. I also do not like bottoming out. Of course I will still mainly use my board I shall not mention lest the trolls show up.

Wait you like speed silvers? i mean they're better than reds and feel similar to mx browns. They're meant for fast typists and it makes me feel like i am in control vs mx reds which are so sensitive .. ugh

[typo]

I think I am going to replace them with halo's though but I will try them for a while first. I am pretty high and accurate WPM so maybe good for me. Unless you are joking. I thought Silvers are super touchy? I am just glad what I got the board for. Not sure I can get used to the layout so fast.

[Sintpinty]

I think I am going to replace them with halo's though but I will try them for a while first. I am pretty high and accurate WPM so maybe good for me. Unless you are joking. I thought Silvers are super touchy? I am just glad what I got the board for. Not sure I can get used to the layout so fast.

yeah zealios and tactile switches with low actuation point and medium force are considered my perfect switch.

[Maledicted]

I think I am going to replace them with halo's though but I will try them for a while first. I am pretty high and accurate WPM so maybe good for me. Unless you are joking. I thought Silvers are super touchy? I am just glad what I got the board for. Not sure I can get used to the layout so fast.

yeah zealios and tactile switches with low actuation point and medium force are considered my perfect switch.

Have you tried capacitive buckling spring yet? Medium weighting, very low actuation point, crisp/clean tactility that's barely perceptible.

I can't say yet for sure whether or not I really care where the actuation point is. I know I would rather be sure that the press is deliberate than accidentally actuate it, but box thick clicks actuate pretty high and that's certainly not a problem with them. I would say that low or mid-travel actuation probably feels the most natural.

[treeleaf64]

I think I am going to replace them with halo's though but I will try them for a while first. I am pretty high and accurate WPM so maybe good for me. Unless you are joking. I thought Silvers are super touchy? I am just glad what I got the board for. Not sure I can get used to the layout so fast.

yeah zealios and tactile switches with low actuation point and medium force are considered my perfect switch.

Have you tried capacitive buckling spring yet? Medium weighting, very low actuation point, crisp/clean tactility that's barely perceptible.

I can't say yet for sure whether or not I really care where the actuation point is. I know I would rather be sure that the press is deliberate than accidentally actuate it, but box thick clicks actuate pretty high and that's certainly not a problem with them. I would say that low or mid-travel actuation probably feels the most natural.

In CBS, the tactility is definitely perceptible, but I wouldn't call it tactility. It's just a sudden drop. Feels really cool.

[typo]

I actually decided Drop True is outstanding. Up there with Topre if I dare say so. I personally feel it surpasses anything Cherry or Kailh. this is funny because it is a completely opposite switch. I found like you folks said high actuation makes me mistype and I never knew why!

[Maledicted]

I actually decided Drop True is outstanding. Up there with Topre if I dare say so. I personally feel it surpasses anything Cherry or Kailh. this is funny because it is a completely opposite switch. I found like you folks said high actuation makes me mistype and I never knew why!

Apparently Kaihua manufactures those switches. I haven't formed many opinions on tactiles myself, other than that MX browns suck. I'm a clicky guy.

[typo]

Those are certainly not clicky or tactile. they were forced to make them due to a lawsuit. they did not make them by choice. I am telling you it is probably the most superior built switch if it is your type of switch. It is like a Cherry clear with a Kailh box but even higher quality. Zero wobble or scratchy. YMMV.   a lot of people very experienced with capacitive like these too. that says a lot. the nice thing is if you use them right you will never bottom out. Very cushy. It is like super light then very heavy so you know when you actuated and to stop. I have a bag of 300 of them. I will populate some boards barebones Korean.

[Maledicted]

Those are certainly not clicky or tactile. they were forced to make them due to a lawsuit. they did not make them by choice. I am telling you it is probably the most superior built switch if it is your type of switch. It is like a Cherry clear with a Kailh box but even higher quality. Zero wobble or scratchy. YMMV.   a lot of people very experienced with capacitive like these too. that says a lot. the nice thing is if you use them right you will never bottom out. Very cushy. It is like super light then very heavy so you know when you actuated and to stop. I have a bag of 300 of them. I will populate some boards barebones Korean.

Cherry clears are tactiles though, and the marketing for the true switches says that they are as well. If they're anything like capacitive buckling spring, I would certainly be up for trying them if I could ever go to a meet that has them. I do believe you've said you live in Wisconsin, so maybe, if there's ever a meet in this area again. Part of the charm of capacitive buckling spring though is the sound.

I like bottoming out though as well.

[typo]

I like them because #1 I hate bottoming out. problem with Topre. They are barely tactile or clicky. Really linear IMO. They are very god coming off capacitive. That is why they rate so high typing next to Topre. Tight behind it. Plus probably the best quality MX switch I ever saw/felt. Should really last 80 million plus. I really only like Topre but I will tolerate these. Same with others that like Topre. It is not the same at all but it is the closest you will ever get. As long as you do not press to hard I really like them. If you press too hard you might even eventually hurt yourself. They get stiffer than blacks at the end. I just quickly flick hem. Very high WPM. Always register, never mistype. If you want an entire board the Drop boards are pretty nice if you change the stabs but very expensive. you get the bare bones, switches and some SA keys run you about $450. Do not get a bult one. the stabs and keycaps suck. It would be better than soldering them all IMO. Although it is the price of a Korean kit and made in china. It is real good though. Just the switches, I think you might like them. not like IBM more like 45G Topre. You do not fel the hinge like IBM. They also make very little noise. IBM is pretty loud. One cool thing would be strip a Cherry board or TG3 and add these.

[rxc92]

Calling Topre ‘linear’ is like calling Texas round.

[treeleaf64]

Calling Topre ‘linear’ is like calling Texas round.

[typo]

I don't think I called Topre linear? Typing on the Halo's right now. Topre sitting next to me. You honestly really have to purposefully bottom out on these. On Topre it is a given. I just personally don't like it. I still prefer HHKB Pro S to this Korean.

[treeleaf64]

problem with Topre. They are barely tactile or clicky. Really linear IMO.

That's just personal preference. I suppose if you want more tactile switches, you could get Hako Royals.

[typo]

I apologize. That is why my name is typo. People at work really call me that for bad code. I meant to say that about Halo pure! Not Topre! My bad. Not at all about Topre! That statement has nothing to do with Topre and was a complete mistype. I am glad you caught it. Keen.

[Maledicted]

I like them because #1 I hate bottoming out. problem with Topre. They are barely tactile or clicky. Really linear IMO. They are very god coming off capacitive. That is why they rate so high typing next to Topre. Tight behind it. Plus probably the best quality MX switch I ever saw/felt. Should really last 80 million plus. I really only like Topre but I will tolerate these. Same with others that like Topre. It is not the same at all but it is the closest you will ever get. As long as you do not press to hard I really like them. If you press too hard you might even eventually hurt yourself. They get stiffer than blacks at the end. I just quickly flick hem. Very high WPM. Always register, never mistype. If you want an entire board the Drop boards are pretty nice if you change the stabs but very expensive. you get the bare bones, switches and some SA keys run you about $450. Do not get a bult one. the stabs and keycaps suck. It would be better than soldering them all IMO. Although it is the price of a Korean kit and made in china. It is real good though. Just the switches, I think you might like them. not like IBM more like 45G Topre. You do not fel the hinge like IBM. They also make very little noise. IBM is pretty loud. One cool thing would be strip a Cherry board or TG3 and add these.

I like clickies, the louder the better, so I love capacitive buckling spring. I would still like to experience topre at some point though

[typo]

Topre does not make much noise IMO.

[Maledicted]

That's what I'm saying. I like strong, or at least very refined, tactility, and plenty of noise to accompany it.

[treeleaf64]

That's what I'm saying. I like strong, or at least very refined, tactility, and plenty of noise to accompany it.

A man of culture, I see. I, too, am the same.

[Maledicted]

That's what I'm saying. I like strong, or at least very refined, tactility, and plenty of noise to accompany it.

A man of culture, I see. I, too, am the same.

 

[IntrospectiveBeet]

For me, speed switches are no more than a gimmick, yeah they have a slightly higher actuation distance, but while typing or even gaming, it's not noticeable at  all. Most of them cost more than their lower actuation counterpart, so i don't think it's worth.

[treeleaf64]

For me, speed switches are no more than a gimmick, yeah they have a slightly higher actuation distance, but while typing or even gaming, it's not noticeable at  all. Most of them cost more than their lower actuation counterpart, so i don't think it's worth.

Yes, Mr. IntrospectiveBeet understands. Overpriced, loud, and not very fun switches. They are lightly weighted and have a very low actuation point. It is better to get switches you enjoy than getting "gaming" switches because you will enjoy the switches you like more.

[Maledicted]

I think I would prefer a lower actuation point anyway. I don't mind it high on thick clicks and complicated alps, but those have pretty stiff tactility preventing accidental keystrokes. I also think that the lower it is, perhaps the weaker the spring should be as well though to help prevent not actuating at all on an intentional press.

[typo]

I always mistype on those anyways. Same on R2 set to highest. Actually R1 agrees with me much better but I really prefer the R2 case.