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Offline Primatech

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 11:46:58 »
New update: arrows separated, right side B added, new renders posted, banner added.

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #51 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 12:00:10 »
ugh  well this disappoints me. second b is nonsensical and ruins the design for me. I'm out...
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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #52 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 12:41:50 »
New update: arrows separated, right side B added, new renders posted, banner added.

Very awesome. I am looking forward to the 2 B design since I sometimes switch off which hand hits B

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #53 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 13:46:06 »
Bent steel~<33

Offline SmilingPudding

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #54 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 23:50:53 »
Is there going to be an option to block the right-side B?

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #55 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 00:05:44 »
Is there going to be an option to block the right-side B?
+1 on a option to skip the right-side B.

I think there are enough interested people in both options.

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[IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #56 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 01:44:24 »
Is there going to be an option to block the right-side B?
+1 on a option to skip the right-side B.

I think there are enough interested in both options.

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+1

Right side B also eliminates a lot of older keycap sets that do have split spacebar support but no second B.
I do like the separate arrow cluster, the second B not so much.
« Last Edit: Wed, 04 March 2020, 03:37:48 by Poesjuh »

Offline JDJ1999

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #57 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 14:18:49 »
Any Idea on group buy date ? Very interested !

Offline Nuclear Nachos

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #58 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 15:55:13 »
Any ballpark estimate of pricing? Looks amazing

Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #59 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 23:06:07 »
Any ballpark estimate of pricing? Looks amazing
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104820.msg2869003.msg#2869003

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #60 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 23:09:45 »
Any Idea on group buy date ? Very interested !


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Offline vaf1en

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #61 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 05:42:23 »
New update: arrows separated, right side B added, new renders posted, banner added.
Separating the arrows has really done it for me – I am in.

Offline Myk!

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 06:24:03 »
New update: arrows separated, right side B added, new renders posted, banner added.

While some like these changes (including me), is there possibility BNM<>? Rshift can be moved to left to remove another "B" and put Fn key on right of Rshift?

At least the possible buyers against the double B will reconsider  :D

Offline Poesjuh

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #63 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 06:36:38 »
New update: arrows separated, right side B added, new renders posted, banner added.

While some like these changes (including me), is there possibility BNM<>? Rshift can be moved to left to remove another "B" and put Fn key on right of Rshift?

At least the possible buyers against the double B will reconsider  :D
That would completely mess up the placement of the bottom row. 10/10 you wouldn’t be able to type anymore :P


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Offline Myk!

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #64 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 07:11:53 »
New update: arrows separated, right side B added, new renders posted, banner added.

While some like these changes (including me), is there possibility BNM<>? Rshift can be moved to left to remove another "B" and put Fn key on right of Rshift?

At least the possible buyers against the double B will reconsider  :D
That would completely mess up the placement of the bottom row. 10/10 you wouldn’t be able to type anymore


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Of course it is just an option. You can choose double B or single B with Fn

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #65 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 06:03:50 »
you say it is going to have a custom pcb, will it be programmable, if so with which firmware? and also will it be a murica only GB or will there be a way to get them in europe (at a reasonable price i mean)?
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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #66 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 19:20:39 »
Just caught this, but I would be seriously tempted to get in as I've been keeping my eyes open for an Alice-like also.  I'm disappointed about the separated arrow keys, as I prefer them joined, but it's not a deal-breaker.  I'm neutral on the extra 'B'.  If I could make a change, it would be to have a win-key option--at least on the left side, as I find that indispensable.

Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #67 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 23:31:34 »
Just caught this, but I would be seriously tempted to get in as I've been keeping my eyes open for an Alice-like also.  I'm disappointed about the separated arrow keys, as I prefer them joined, but it's not a deal-breaker.  I'm neutral on the extra 'B'.  If I could make a change, it would be to have a win-key option--at least on the left side, as I find that indispensable.
Winkey isn't happening, sadly.

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Offline Primatech

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #68 on: Thu, 12 March 2020, 06:27:54 »
you say it is going to have a custom pcb, will it be programmable, if so with which firmware? and also will it be a murica only GB or will there be a way to get them in europe (at a reasonable price i mean)?

PCB is QMK compatible. Primatech is from Finland and these will be sold globally.

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #69 on: Thu, 12 March 2020, 07:42:24 »
Winkey isn't happening, sadly.

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #70 on: Fri, 13 March 2020, 00:44:30 »
PCB is QMK compatible. Primatech is from Finland and these will be sold globally.

That's great. So it would be sold with proxies in different area?
And I love Finland!

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #71 on: Fri, 13 March 2020, 02:29:27 »
PCB is QMK compatible. Primatech is from Finland and these will be sold globally.
Nice, thanks for the answer
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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #72 on: Fri, 13 March 2020, 04:31:15 »
Any chance for 2 different tops? One with second B and one without second B? I personally really dislike right side B, has no function whatsoever for me.


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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #73 on: Fri, 13 March 2020, 04:33:10 »
Any chance for 2 different tops? One with second B and one without second B? I personally really dislike right side B, has no function whatsoever for me.


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+1 on this

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Offline Primatech

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #74 on: Fri, 13 March 2020, 05:20:47 »
PCB is QMK compatible. Primatech is from Finland and these will be sold globally.

That's great. So it would be sold with proxies in different area?
And I love Finland!

Currently, the plan is to deliver directly to the buyer.

Any chance for 2 different tops? One with second B and one without second B? I personally really dislike right side B, has no function whatsoever for me.


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While we would love to do this, the vast majority voted for another b-key. Having a second top option with a low MOQ would raise the price for everyone.

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #75 on: Fri, 13 March 2020, 05:53:09 »
Any chance for 2 different tops? One with second B and one without second B? I personally really dislike right side B, has no function whatsoever for me.


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While we would love to do this, the vast majority voted for another b-key. Having a second top option with a low MOQ would raise the price for everyone.
to leave the option for everyone it may be possible to do it like "cheap" computer cases do and only partially cut it? although it may look bad afterward and usually those cases uses very thing steel so i do not know of the feasibility of such an option here.

Edit: to add background: it would be my 1st alice-like board so i do not know if the double B will be something i will use or not yet, so i do not really care either way if that makes sence
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Offline gorbachev

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #76 on: Sat, 14 March 2020, 17:53:43 »
Edit: to add background: it would be my 1st alice-like board so i do not know if the double B will be something i will use or not yet, so i do not really care either way if that makes sence

You don't have to have two b keys on those two slots. Change your keymap to have something else on either the left or right one.

I have the function key on the right side b key on all of my Alice keyboards, for example.

Offline justabot2995

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #77 on: Mon, 16 March 2020, 16:26:54 »
A lot of interest if it manages to be under $200!

I love the arrow keys in the new renders (slightly separated), but I managed to say the opposite on the google form - went full dumb on that, sorry.

Wish tons of luck on the GB, count me in.
Check -> https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104820.0 [Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like]

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #78 on: Wed, 18 March 2020, 20:55:53 »
A lot of interest if it manages to be under $200!

I love the arrow keys in the new renders (slightly separated), but I managed to say the opposite on the google form - went full dumb on that, sorry.

Wish tons of luck on the GB, count me in.
Prices will range from 130-180! Check the discord

Offline Nuclear Nachos

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #79 on: Thu, 19 March 2020, 20:56:14 »
A lot of interest if it manages to be under $200!

I love the arrow keys in the new renders (slightly separated), but I managed to say the opposite on the google form - went full dumb on that, sorry.

Wish tons of luck on the GB, count me in.
Prices will range from 130-180! Check the discord
I assume the pcb isn't included in the kit, if it isn't, whats the price or a rough idea?

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #80 on: Thu, 19 March 2020, 21:02:09 »
A lot of interest if it manages to be under $200!

I love the arrow keys in the new renders (slightly separated), but I managed to say the opposite on the google form - went full dumb on that, sorry.

Wish tons of luck on the GB, count me in.
Prices will range from 130-180! Check the discord
I assume the pcb isn't included in the kit, if it isn't, whats the price or a rough idea?
You should join the discord and ask smol about it. That is all the info we have till now.

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #81 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 14:29:30 »
A lot of interest if it manages to be under $200!

I love the arrow keys in the new renders (slightly separated), but I managed to say the opposite on the google form - went full dumb on that, sorry.

Wish tons of luck on the GB, count me in.
Prices will range from 130-180! Check the discord
I assume the pcb isn't included in the kit, if it isn't, whats the price or a rough idea?
You should join the discord and ask smol about it. That is all the info we have till now.
A lot of us aren't on, and don't plan to get on discord

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #82 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 14:34:06 »
I am on Discord and I still think that sharing relevant information in the IC thread that already exists here is the minimum I expect from IC/GB runners. In general expecting people to be in dozens of individual IC/GB runner servers and keeping an eye on all of them is extremely unrealistic. Discord is great but it's not the right medium for keeping people informed about interest checks and group buys.

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #83 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 15:50:29 »
A lot of interest if it manages to be under $200!

I love the arrow keys in the new renders (slightly separated), but I managed to say the opposite on the google form - went full dumb on that, sorry.

Wish tons of luck on the GB, count me in.
Prices will range from 130-180! Check the discord
I assume the pcb isn't included in the kit, if it isn't, whats the price or a rough idea?
You should join the discord and ask smol about it. That is all the info we have till now.
A lot of us aren't on, and don't plan to get on discord
Fair enough. That's all the info we have atm anyways. Sucks that no updates are posted by OP ngl.

Offline Nuclear Nachos

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #84 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 16:16:02 »
Asked him on discord, the 130-180 does include the pcb

Offline justabot2995

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #85 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 16:28:45 »
Thats good news. Lets just hope the virus situation doesn't ruin the GB!

Good luck for us!
Check -> https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104820.0 [Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like]

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #86 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 10:32:21 »
Interested, but I don't know if I'll get it, I am interested how the project goes tho.

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #87 on: Wed, 08 April 2020, 01:42:56 »
i love this

Offline Raptor_N60

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #88 on: Fri, 17 April 2020, 04:22:25 »
Closely watching the thread, would like to have some updates from time to time ;D

Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #89 on: Fri, 17 April 2020, 04:35:45 »
I believe there is no updates as of yet: prototype is still on the way, and no new info will come out until it finally arrives.

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #90 on: Sun, 03 May 2020, 16:13:25 »
Very nice, looks clean! I would definitely like to join for this!

I particularly like that the Esc key is "close" to the rest of the keys, so it is easy to access in normal typing, so you don't have to reach for it.
Also, nice with the space added for the arrow keys!
I've read that the steel can be hard/noisy, is foam necessary for a good typing sound?

Edit: Happy to see that it's a product of a neighboring country!
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Offline Jaltr

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #91 on: Sun, 03 May 2020, 17:25:34 »
Very nice, looks clean! I would definitely like to join for this!

I particularly like that the Esc key is "close" to the rest of the keys, so it is easy to access in normal typing, so you don't have to reach for it.
Also, nice with the space added for the arrow keys!
I've read that the steel can be hard/noisy, is foam necessary for a good typing sound?

Edit: Happy to see that it's a product of a neighboring country!
If there is room for foam, then yes.

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #92 on: Sat, 09 May 2020, 05:35:31 »
I love the idea of having the arrows keys on the Alice and I am all in, but I am wondering since the bottom is a straight cut, there is a lot of spacing between the bottom row and the edge of the keyboard. I am afraid that it might affect the ergonomic factor and the feel of typing.

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #93 on: Mon, 11 May 2020, 13:53:18 »
Very excited about this one!

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #94 on: Mon, 11 May 2020, 14:11:20 »
I love the idea of having the arrows keys on the Alice and I am all in, but I am wondering since the bottom is a straight cut, there is a lot of spacing between the bottom row and the edge of the keyboard. I am afraid that it might affect the ergonomic factor and the feel of typing.

Do you think a wrist rest would pretty much solve this?

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #95 on: Fri, 22 May 2020, 23:47:53 »
Might be interested, if includes hotswap

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #96 on: Sat, 23 May 2020, 06:18:19 »
Primatech is a registered security company, I'd change that name before you get a cease and desist..
You have no link to a website and you logo also doesn't match the austrian primatech company.

Things like this can really quickly ruin people's trust in ICs and GBs in general and by extension the geekhack forums.
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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #97 on: Sat, 23 May 2020, 06:28:14 »
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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #98 on: Sat, 23 May 2020, 12:34:38 »
Primatech is a registered security company, I'd change that name before you get a cease and desist..
You have no link to a website and you logo also doesn't match the austrian primatech company.

Things like this can really quickly ruin people's trust in ICs and GBs in general and by extension the geekhack forums.

I am not a lawyer, but I think it's okay for name collisions to occur between products / companies / whatever as long as there is no possibility of confusion.  Pretty sure that would be the case here.  Also, people losing trust in GBs and GH because of it??  Don't you think that's going a little overboard?

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Re: [IC] Primatech x Void - Lisa - a bent steel alice-like
« Reply #99 on: Sat, 23 May 2020, 23:56:02 »
Primatech is a registered security company, I'd change that name before you get a cease and desist..
You have no link to a website and you logo also doesn't match the austrian primatech company.

Things like this can really quickly ruin people's trust in ICs and GBs in general and by extension the geekhack forums.

I am not a lawyer, but I think it's okay for name collisions to occur between products / companies / whatever as long as there is no possibility of confusion.  Pretty sure that would be the case here.  Also, people losing trust in GBs and GH because of it??  Don't you think that's going a little overboard?

Exactly what I thought, and what’s wrong with having no websites, if you are looking for that kind of stuff, go buy razer/Corsair. Why bother browsing GH looking at all these community projects lol.