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Offline Stormlex

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[IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard [Update 2020-03-26]
« on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 03:09:52 »
Decent65
By soran & Stormlex



What, why and who?

The general idea behind the Decent65 was making a classic top mount 65 percent keyboard, which would have the looks while still maintaining a not over the top price. So this is a no-fuss, low height board with bezels on the thicker side.
It was born from an idea of mine and have been brought to life by soran - who was responsible for doing the actual design work.
Designed, engineered and manufactured in Europe. The prototype seen in the pictures is made by Salvun, https://www.instagram.com/salvun/, who also will be making the final product.

Features
  • 65% keyboard with blocker at arrows
  • 6060 aluminum case
  • Anodization color options: black, gray and silver, burgundy/dark red and purple
  • Semi-fixed aluminum plate in either ANSI or ISO (Plate files will be released if people want to have them made in other materials)
  • Top mount
  • 7 degrees angle
  • Bottom front ledge to keep the front low, just shy of 16 mm (without bumpons)
  • Standardized ai03 daughter board with USB C
  • Alignment pins for top and bottom
  • No internal or external weight
  • 1.11 kg (Case+plate) and around 1.4 kg built
  • QMK-compatible PCB with JST connector for daughter board
  • Manufactured by Salvun in Belgium
Estimated pricing
(excl. shipping)
US and RotW: $255
EU: 275 (Incl. VAT)

The group buy is intended to be run through mykeyboard.eu, who also will be handling QC, after IC is concluded and decisions has been made.

Please fill out the IC form if you are interested in buying this keyboard, if you are interested in optional cerakoting and/or would like to suggest any additions.
IC form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1N63LK9F-_nwFeblm_Xy3TGvAEI7nicBnFCG5v7FgUJs
If you have any opinions that you want to share that's not in the IC form, please reply to this post.

Join the mykeyboard discord server for ongoing discussions and updates: https://discord.mykeyboard.eu/



Layout options



Click for more pictures of the prototype

More

Prototype is anodized in black with silver plate

Outdoor photos courtesy of NecrowomanX:






Pictures of the prototype (Non color-corrected cellphone pics):












Details (Non color-corrected cellphone pics):





Details:




Prototype manufacturing pictures (Courtesy of Salvun)




Finishing of with some more angled shots:



















Thanks goes out to:
  • soran for the excellent design work and ideas
  • NecromanX & NecrowomanX for taking care of a lot of stuff and agreeing to run this on mykeyboard.eu
  • Salvun for his machining skills and overall great dude
  • Zambumon "No. Use a daughter board"

..and yes, I noticed that the down arrow in one of the pictures wasn't properly seated.

Thank you for considering.
Regards


soran & Stormlex



Update 2020-03-14

1) After some brainstorming, we have decided that the available anodisation colours are going to be:
  • Black
  • Grey
  • Burgundy
  • Dark Purple



2) Since I felt that it should be addressed - cerakoting should be around 50 on top of the GB price.

3) Hotswap, rgb or changes to the top (winkeyless, removing blocker) - are out of question. That part of the design has be finalized.


Update 2020-03-26

The prototype was sent to soran, got lost due to corona lockdown in Poland, got found again and is now in the hands of soran.
There will hopefully be a build-stream done by him shortly.

We (or well NecromanX atleast) are currently also working on a US/NA proxy since that has been some comments on that in the IC form.

Stay tuned
« Last Edit: Thu, 26 March 2020, 08:23:34 by Stormlex »

Offline Morbus

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 03:16:48 »
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Offline hkiri

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 03:19:07 »
[insert decent pun here]

Offline belgium_waffles

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 03:27:59 »
not bad, one could it looks kinda decent

Offline Stormlex

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 03:40:00 »
[insert decent pun here]

[Insert indecent reply to decent pun]

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 03:40:20 »
Love it  :D

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 03:40:42 »
[insert decent pun here]

[Insert indecent reply to decent pun]
[jnsert decent follow up]


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Offline nicole_loke_richards

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 03:42:08 »
Simplicity at best! I love how versatile the bottom row is.


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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 04:08:35 »
Thank you for considering using the USB-C daughter board.

Offline bowen

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 05:37:45 »
simple and inexpensive, gj

Offline Crack85

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 05:38:20 »
Looks decent

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Offline eniigma

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 06:01:01 »
Looks like a decent board, gl!

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 06:40:11 »
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Offline Serious salamander

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 06:51:11 »
Loving the price and no fuss aesthetics.

Offline Stormlex

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:17:17 »
Loving the price and no fuss aesthetics.

Thank you!

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:18:21 »

Offline bobdenard

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[IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:19:31 »
Looking good

Offline TheArcticFox_27

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:20:04 »
Pretty decent!
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Offline Serious salamander

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:37:38 »
best name

No, it's a decent name

These puns are indecent.

Alright, I'm sold. Filled out IC form, and I'll note here as well that I'd definitely be willing to pay for other colors.

Offline lac29

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:46:30 »
I'm hoping to see more boards with no weight. This looks great!

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 08:03:22 »
finally a decently priced board!



Offline ViciousVerbivore

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 08:06:45 »
Looks very decent. I'd be even more excited about a Decent75 at a similar price point.

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 08:38:59 »
since you're going with alum plate as a standard, any chance in putting some flex cuts in the PCB to help soften out the downstroke even more?  Something similar to Wilba's WT60 shown here:

https://mekanisk.co/products/wt60-d

Offline ThePanduuh

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 08:48:34 »
**** soran you really are making me consider this at such a decent price.
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Offline Stormlex

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 09:00:02 »
since you're going with alum plate as a standard, any chance in putting some flex cuts in the PCB to help soften out the downstroke even more?  Something similar to Wilba's WT60 shown here:

https://mekanisk.co/products/wt60-d

It's a good point, but since we aim for decent, no-fussyness, it might be a bit overkill. But your point is noted.

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 10:27:15 »
Decently interested.

Offline Serious salamander

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 11:39:02 »
I'm super interested, but I have the worst luck, do you envision this as a limited group buy, and if so, how many spots? Thanks!

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 12:33:09 »
Nice board. I'm puzzled by the bezels, though. Are they uniform or is there a slight difference in bezel width between the top+bottom and left+right ones? Aside from that, my only complaint would be the visible seam on the side, but I guess making a seamless design is a bit more costly, due to increased material and machining costs.
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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 13:15:18 »
Nice board. I'm puzzled by the bezels, though. Are they uniform or is there a slight difference in bezel width between the top+bottom and left+right ones? Aside from that, my only complaint would be the visible seam on the side, but I guess making a seamless design is a bit more costly, due to increased material and machining costs.

To answer your question about the bezels, yes, the top one is actually bigger by 3mm when compared to the bottom and sides.


since you're going with alum plate as a standard, any chance in putting some flex cuts in the PCB to help soften out the downstroke even more?  Something similar to Wilba's WT60 shown here:

https://mekanisk.co/products/wt60-d

That wouldn't really change that much, but if you want to get a different plate material, we will be releasing the files for them once the groupbuy is done!



And I'd like to also include a response to some of the replies in the form:
1) as of now, we aren't planning on having the PCBs be hotswap nor have them have RGB.
2) for reference on the cerakote pricing, here is a screencap of Salvun's post in his channel on mykeyboard's discord server.
3) no plans for weight or different case material.
4) anodisation colours will stay as they are - we wanted to be rather safe with that.
5) We won't be changing the mount, sorry.

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 15:24:17 »
very nice board will be keeping an eye on this one.. Love 65% guys  :thumb:

Can i still ask for wants or is this a done deal ??

- can we get indicator leds like on the NK65.. but top side ,, instead of side.. but really any thing is better then nothing location doesn't matter..
3 leds will do.. capsLock + 2 level indicator lights really handy..

- can we get SMD per switch RGB having it on my NK65 really adds nice underglow did not realize how much i would like it..

Nothing more to want.. as i'm in The Netherlands.. shipping and VAT would not be an issue ..
only explaining to my wife i need / want another 65% board.. lost count how many i have hahahahahahahahhaha.. still love the bezels.. nice thick

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 16:23:14 »
- can we get indicator leds like on the NK65.. but top side ,, instead of side.. but really any thing is better then nothing location doesn't matter..
3 leds will do.. capsLock + 2 level indicator lights really handy..

- can we get SMD per switch RGB having it on my NK65 really adds nice underglow did not realize how much i would like it..

No.

Offline Stormlex

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 04:31:14 »
Update: Added the weight of the board to the features list. It,s 1.11 kg (actually 1111gr) for case plus plate. Around 1.4 kg fully built
« Last Edit: Tue, 10 March 2020, 04:38:27 by Stormlex »

Offline beekey

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 15:12:11 »
Split space? Would love to see a 65 with this layout again.

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 17:54:15 »
Does the PCB have ESD protection?

Offline julianlamme

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 18:33:00 »
Simple, functional, cheap, and has a daughter board? Sign me up!

Thiccc bezel ftw

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 17:15:45 »
Nice board from good vendors and other good guys :D Just make hotswap version (winkeyless ansi version with windows keys, because there is not a lot hotswap like that!)

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #36 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 19:51:02 »
Nice board from good vendors and other good guys :D Just make hotswap version (winkeyless ansi version with windows keys, because there is not a lot hotswap like that!)

Sorry, but no.

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 21:35:27 »
Looks decent. I'll buy one.

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #38 on: Thu, 12 March 2020, 02:02:46 »

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #39 on: Sat, 14 March 2020, 15:38:37 »
Hi there readers, coming in with an update regarding the GB:

1) After some brainstorming, we have decided that the available anodisation colours are going to be:
Black
Grey
Burgundy
Dark Purple


2) Since I felt that it should be adressed - cerakoting should be around 50 on top of the GB price.

3) Saying it for the last time here - hotswap, rgb or changes to the top (winkeyless, removing blocker) - are out of question. That part of the design has be finalised.

We are yet to receive info about the groupbuy date, so stay tuned for that.
« Last Edit: Sat, 14 March 2020, 16:37:12 by soran »

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 15 March 2020, 02:52:16 »
Decent thicc and decent price ! Love it 

Offline Stormlex

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard [Update 2020-03-16]
« Reply #41 on: Mon, 16 March 2020, 07:20:58 »
Updated the post regarding anodization color options, and then some cosmetic changes to the post itself.

Offline yhs

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard [Update 2020-03-16]
« Reply #42 on: Mon, 16 March 2020, 08:56:23 »
I shall purchase this, despite the lack of the much requested neon-green anodization option.

Offline FlitzDeelman

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard [Update 2020-03-16]
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 16:44:21 »
I am definitely interested, will buy.

Offline Stormlex

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Re: [IC] Decent65- A decent 65% keyboard [Update 2020-03-16]
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 26 March 2020, 08:22:09 »
Update

The prototype was sent to soran, got lost due to corona lockdown in Poland, got found again and is now in the hands of soran.
There will hopefully be a build-stream done by him shortly.

We (or well NecromanX atleast) are currently also working on a US/NA proxy since that has been some comments on that in the IC form.