Looking For Standard Layout Without Numpad

[tqn]

Hey all, my first post here.

The title says it all. I'm looking for a keyboard that has a standard layout (very important) but without the numpad. I know one of the popular ones on this forum is the Majestouch Tenkeyless. A keyboard like that would be exactly what I'm looking for, except I have no experience with mechanical keyboards, so I don't know whether I would like it (not to mention the price is higher than what I'm used to).

So I will keep in mind the Majestouch Tenkeyless as an option, but I'm also looking for the standard layout without Numpad keyboard in a more typical membrane keyboard.

I googled long and hard and saw many mini/compact keyboards that move and squish keys, so those don't meet the criteria. The closest I've come is the following HP modular keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000GKC1W4/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&redirect=true&condition=all

Now that particular link describes the Spanish version. Does that mean it's actually different than an "English" (i.e. North American) keyboard?

Is there anything else out there that you've come across?
thanks

[ch_123]

Do you have a preference for low or full travel keys?

Now that particular link describes the Spanish version. Does that mean it's actually different than an "English" (i.e. North American) keyboard?

Yes.

[tqn]

Do you have a preference for low or full travel keys?

If by full travel you mean the distance for key depression that you normally find on mass market keyboards, and low travel the type normally found on low profile keyboards (e.g. I have a Logitech diNovo Edge that seems to fit this definition) - then I prefer full travel.

[pfink]

So I will keep in mind the Majestouch Tenkeyless as an option, but I'm also looking for the standard layout without Numpad keyboard in a more typical membrane keyboard.

Outside of mechanicals the closest to a standard layout tenkeyless is probably the IBM Space Saver II. The only deviation is that the PrntScrn/Numlk/Pause and Ins/Del/etc clusters are bumped down so that they're directly above the arrow keys.

[TexasFlood]

Outside of mechanicals the closest to a standard layout tenkeyless is probably the IBM Space Saver II. The only deviation is that the PrntScrn/Numlk/Pause and Ins/Del/etc clusters are bumped down so that they're directly above the arrow keys.

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I like the layout of the IBM Space Saver II.  Keys aren't the best, not the worse either.  The trackpoint is a bit plus for me.  There are certainly worse keyboards for moderate use where you want a compact keyboard.

[tqn]

The IBM Space Saver II looks like it could do the job. Unfortunately, like other numpad-less non-mini keyboards, it's tough to find in stock. I'll set up a search alert on eBay for this. If I don't see one for a few months, I may take a chance on a Majestouch Tenkeyless (probably a brown switch).

[British]

Just for the record, there's no universal "standard layout", even if you're from the US (because, you know, there's a world outside USA).

I could probably search through the wiki to some explanation on layouts, but roughly, that's how it is:

• ANSI - 104 keys for full keyboard / US mostly, dunno which others countries use it
• ISO - 105 keys for full keyboard / Most of ISO-using countries have their own specific layouts, be it for accents, supernumerary characters...

I'll grant you that having so many "standards" on ISO is a pain, moreso when some countries (Germany) have way more models available than others (France, heh).

That's missing details, but hey, said it was rough :smile:

[pfink]

The IBM Space Saver II looks like it could do the job. Unfortunately, like other numpad-less non-mini keyboards, it's tough to find in stock. I'll set up a search alert on eBay for this. If I don't see one for a few months, I may take a chance on a Majestouch Tenkeyless (probably a brown switch).

They stopped making them a while ago (in 2004, according to this.) They do show up fairly regularly on eBay, though, usually in the $35-50 range. You can also try posting in the Classifieds forum here, another Geekhack member might have one to sell you.

[TexasFlood]

Just googling around I found some Japanese pages about the IBM Spacesaver II, a look at the internals it and disassembling/modding them.  I'm still looking this one over, looks like one thing tried was to make cuts into the edge of the rubber domes to change the key force.  Perhaps folks have already seen these pages but I hadn't & thought it was interesting.