Author Topic: [IC] KAT Iron- Salvun caps unleashed - GB date August 2nd!!! Pricing added  (Read 65750 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada

Group Buy thread open. This thread locked now


Salvuns Announced

304 Stainless meticulously machined, finished and beadblasted in Salvuns lair then laser polished to make for the must have companion to your KAT Iron kits of choice
Both R4 and R5 will be available.






Pricing



Hello Geekhack

I hope everyone is staying safe and healthy during these unprecedented times.
This is the IC for my next set but this time I am changing it up and giving KAT a go,  and with that I introduce you to

KAT Iron






Inspiration


Well it seems  I like elements of the periodic table, After finishing up the GMK Copper GB, I played around with some colours for my next set but got pulled back into elements and metal. Iron is extremely interesting, of the utmost importance in human history and since when trying to match its likeness with plastic poses a bit of a problem, which in my mind could be solved using a gradient. This allowed to show either the different colours that iron/steel can appear in varying forms and light. However I love the effect of oxidation,  with optional hints of rust, or a full on rust layout you get what I believe to be a very verstatile, interesting set in a profile that offers a wide range of kits for the wide range of boards available. Continuing to expand on this, I love being able to tie seemingly unrelated things into a overarching theme.  Using influences in Biology, Chemistry, and human history a range of mini-themes emerged under the larger umbrella of a simple, amazing element.
With the kit flexibility that comes with KAT, I wanted to have an alternate alphas that fit the theme, after looking at a few options I came across the Phoenician alphabet, which fit perfetly as its origin came about in the early Iron age of history. It spread throughout the Mediterranean world and was adopted by many cultures. And it just looks amazing IMHO.


Feedback
Feedback is invaluable so putting this IC form up near the top so no one misses. Please take a second to let me know your thoughts.
https://forms.gle/uLRug9bZ3D4jDRPr6




Kits Major updates to the kits are complete



Phoenician Alphas

The making of the Phoenician Alphas
More
The Phoenician Alphas was a collaboration between JSaintS, myself and Manzel, with additional input from konstantin in this thread.  I wanted to provide some
details on the extended thought process by Manzel on filling in the gaps in a number of the letters. Its quite amazing!! thanks so much man!
The ones that had a clear counterpart were just used on that specific key: A, B, D, Z, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q
giml would be C or G. Since it evolved from the greek Γ, I placed it on G. Thus we were missing a C. For this, I used the old symbol, which giml was based on.
For H, there is he and het. Since the former evolved to E, this was used for E. That left het for H
waw was difficult since it evolved to F, U, V, Y, and W. Since it is called waw and also pronounced like that, I used it on W
tet went on to became the greek Θ and cyrillic Ѳ (fita). Thus I used it for F
yod could be I or J. Since there is also sade, which became the cyrillic Џ (pronounced like the beginning of jump), I used sade on J. But since yod starts with a Y, I used it as that.
For I, I modified the yod glyph and removed the tail
For S, there are samek and sin. Since the latter became our S, I used it there. And samek on X
I think, only U and V are missing now. I derived both of these from waw. For V, I just made a V. And for U, I made the top part of the Y (waw) round, which seems to be an actual step in the evolution of that letter













Novelties











































Renders by Manzel


Iron180 by Smith + Rune





KBD19X by KBDFans



Iron165 by Smith + Rune








S7 elephant by jacky





ROTR by Polarity Works rendered by panzerstadt
 (IC - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107104.0)



Deskmats






Confirmed Artisan Collabs

Archetype

GSK

latrialum

Sodie Caps

Fraktal Kaps

lividitycaps

sludgekidd

Girlycaps Studios

gothcaps

trmkcaps

Artkey Universe

RADcaps







Vendors

US - TX Keyboards
Canada - Deskhero
Europe - Mykeyboard
Asia - Zfrontier
Oceania - DailyClack
Ukraine,Russia and Belarus - Funkeys


Next steps
- get feedback from everywhere (Geekhack, Discord, Instagram) Got lots!!
- review any following kit changes needed
- provide new kits to Keyreative and work on getting samples
- Add more renders
- Deskmat designs
-Artisans - oh yes!!
- IC Form
- Confirm remaining proxies



Thanks


JSaintS for all the stuff he did to help me on KAT, without his help, feedback and support on the  this set would never have happened. And original run at the Phoenician alphas which I think look amazing
OCM has helped me from the beginning of Copper and hasnt stopped since and look at those novelties  :eek:
Manzel For the amazing renders, and for taking the Phoenician alphas to the next level without me even asking
lbaron for support and providing Iron180 files and making awesome boards!!!
Roche for all the feedback and being open to the ongoing constant harassment of looking at a new render by me
Chowbabyloving feedback on renders and always challenging new ideas!!
popkorn for agreeing to be the vendor for KAT Iron and running TX Keyboards first KAT set
jerrolds for being proxy for KAT Iron in Canada
Braxusz For the amazing Carnival logo surprise out of nowhere!!
Mek For sharing ideas and general discussions, and future collabs
The Carnival Discord for all the support and love!!
The entire community everyone here makes this so much fun!!

Dont forget to provide your

Feedback
Feedback is invaluable so putting this IC form up near the top so no one misses. Please take a second to let me know your thoughts.
https://forms.gle/uLRug9bZ3D4jDRPr6

Also come to the discord and talk with other Carnival fans and discuss, request or critique the set
Join my discord server to stay up to date with the set at the Carnival



« Last Edit: Thu, 30 July 2020, 18:40:49 by fatboycarney »

Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 00:48:08 »
Very dank 40s support. I'm not normally a fan of gradient sets but I actually love the look of this so might give this one a try. I was a big fan of DSA ferrous and this just seems like a better implementation of that.

Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
« Last Edit: Sun, 12 April 2020, 00:51:31 by machine yearning »

Offline tunadesu

  • Posts: 208
  • Location: MA
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 00:58:02 »
This might be the 1st KAT and gradient set I get in on.  :thumb:

Offline Nothatso

  • Posts: 17
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 01:37:39 »
You had me at Phoenician Alphas  :thumb:

Offline IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES

  • Posts: 1966
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 01:42:21 »
Porphyrin ring novelty?

Offline chowbabyloving

  • Posts: 79
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 01:56:49 »
I'm looking forward to the collabs.

Offline nettoxx7

  • Posts: 35
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 01:57:37 »
Looks really good with the Iron Fe theme!

Offline bow3i

  • Posts: 55
  • Location: Singapore
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 05:38:22 »
I like this! good luck

Offline Mcnos

  • Posts: 1280
    • GMK Fuyu
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 05:40:11 »
Any renders without accents or novelties?

Offline NoPunIn10Did

  • Posts: 559
  • Location: North Carolina
    • NoPunIn10Key
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 07:07:27 »
Ergodox thumb cluster keys should be R2, not R1, with the exception of the 2us (since they are convex).

Likewise the 1.5u verticals needs to be R2.

Additionally, you might want to think about which legends you’re providing in your bottom row versus the thumb cluster. The thing to keep in mind is that you don’t need more than one of a given legend in each of R1 vs. R2.

Don’t just follow prior KAT group buys. They’ve been getting it wrong.

Offline catbus

  • Posts: 58
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 08:22:21 »
I'd love to see a blank Ergo kit if possible  :thumb:

Offline KawabataLuis

  • Posts: 94
  • Location: Brazil
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 09:22:40 »
Pretty nice! Really into the Phoenician Alphas.
BTW, I really don't know anything about the inspiration for this, but would it be possible a Phoenician enter text novelty? That would make me get the novelties kit.

Offline DrHigsby

  • Posts: 243
  • The doctor is in.
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 11:01:40 »
I’d be interested to see “rusted” alphas and “rusted” mods that use the oxidized color. I think that would be pretty sweet.

FBC, I really liked what you did with Copper, but couldn’t swallow the price tag at the time. A KAT set is much easier to pick up as it usually costs half of a GMK core + novelties set. Running a “rusted” alphas/mods set would be a nod back towards copper.

Anyways, thanks for the consideration!

Offline chowbabyloving

  • Posts: 79
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 15:04:09 »
I’d be interested to see “rusted” alphas and “rusted” mods that use the oxidized color. I think that would be pretty sweet.

FBC, I really liked what you did with Copper, but couldn’t swallow the price tag at the time. A KAT set is much easier to pick up as it usually costs half of a GMK core + novelties set. Running a “rusted” alphas/mods set would be a nod back towards copper.

Anyways, thanks for the consideration!

I'm hoping for phoenician sublegend alphas.

Offline IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES

  • Posts: 1966
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 15:52:53 »
I’d be interested to see “rusted” alphas and “rusted” mods that use the oxidized color. I think that would be pretty sweet.

Would be interested in seeing too. KAT child kits make this a lot easier than GMK...

Offline eas

  • Posts: 77
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 16:54:16 »
Thanks for \| in Ortholinear kit

I'm in.

Offline gminso

  • Posts: 96
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 17:09:08 »
On the alpha kit image, '<' key has only '<' on it but some of the renders have both '<' and ',' on the key.
if the intention is to drop ',' symbol to make alphas uniformly centered with a single symbol, maybe consider doing the same for the num row.

Online Rob27shred

  • Posts: 1660
  • Location: Pittsburgh, PA
  • Insane in the Membrane! 👻
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 17:14:17 »
Never been a fan of gradient sets (either side to side or top to bottom), but this really does pop! You got my interest & I have been wanting to get a KAT set, gonna keep an eye on this one. GL with it moving forward!

Offline TurboGrinder

  • Posts: 27
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 17:29:54 »
Just filled out the form. I like that you have Minivan support in the 40s kit right out of the box, and 2 1.5u spacebars in the Ortho kit :thumb: It's a decent looking enough set, based on the renders, but I'm going to hold off on getting more KAT gradient sets until I have Eternal. I'd like to see how they look in person before I jump on any more. I'm guessing that this will run quite a while after Eternal ships though.

The extra spacebar in the alpha kits needs to go. For anyone getting an alpha set plus a 60s/40s set, they'll end up with 3 6.25 spacebars. For people that use smaller 40s boards that don't use anything larger than a 2.75u space (myself included) it seems kind of ridiculous to pay for 18.75u worth of keycap that won't ever be used. My suggestion is to pull the spacebar from the alpha kits and only include, at most, 2 of them in the 60s/40s sets. Or better yet, don't include one in the alphas, only include one in the 60s/40s sets, and instead include one of the other color in the spacebars kit. Take a look at KAT Space Cadet as an example.

Oh, I forgot to add this to the form, but the atomic structure of a iron might be a cool novelty. A clothes iron would be funny tongue-in-cheek one too.

Offline DrHigsby

  • Posts: 243
  • The doctor is in.
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 19:07:41 »
So I’ve spent more time looking at the proposed kits and wanted to offer a few comments/thoughts. Please don’t interpret this as overly harsh criticism! I’ve just been starting at this post for entirely too long and a few things stand out to me.

Why so many 6.25u spacebars? If I buy alphas and mods to fill say a 65%, I’m getting three 6.25u spacebars, two of which appear to be the same color. Can we remove the spacebar from the alphas kit? IMO, spacebars belong with the appropriate mods kit or if you got something snowflakey, then in the spacebars kit.

The 40s kit could use a second glance. Either split the 40s kit up into mods, black spacebars, and rusted spacebars or make the 40s kit only contain the most commonly used spacebars, such as 2x 1u, 1x 2u, 1x 2.25u, and 1x 2.75u. We drop down to 9u total length of spacebars in one color from 40u+ in two colors. I may be off base for what constitutes common 40s spacebars, but I do think there are entirely too many spacebars in the 40s kit.

Once you settle on the lengths for the black spacebars kit, please add a rusted spacebars kit.

Alice style users are missing that second B. Add that to the alphas kits or to the mods kits.

Consider adding an icon mods kit in both 40s and ortho. Similarly, why not add a text ergo kit.

Please add an “up” key in the dark gray to the ortho kit. Some of us preonic users do that.


Thanks for taking some time to read over this FBC. I understand the time and effort it takes to produce these ICs and then adapt to feedback. I look forward to how this all shakes out for Iron!
« Last Edit: Sun, 12 April 2020, 19:10:52 by DrHigsby »

Offline stoffelduss

  • Posts: 197
  • Location: Mĺnnem, Germany
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 19:50:37 »
I'd remove all the brown keys from the main kits and make a single accent kit with all those brown keys... the set already has a lot going on with the gradient, I don't think it looks good with the brown at all. It would probably make the set cheaper for most to move them to some extra kit.

The kits need some work, you get duplicate backtick and backslash keys when you get regular alphas and mods. Why is there an 1u shift in the standard mods kit? The home key next to it probably wants to be an end key. Why is there a bottom row 1u fn key but no bottom row 1.25u fn key? why are there two almost identical backslashes in the ortho kit? why are code, menu, rn, raise, lower and ctrl in the ortho kit colored like they're in the second to lowest row? why does the calc kit have ins and home without del, end, pgup and pgdn? why is the num lock symbol a #?

Some more remarks: The 1.5u backspace in the regular mods schema is 1.75u in size (edit: wrong, I meant the backslash key in that kit), the regular alphas have monolegends on a few symbols, and the render labelled kbd19x is not a kbd19x (though maybe you just mean the layout)
« Last Edit: Mon, 13 April 2020, 05:20:58 by stoffelduss »

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 20:59:43 »
Wow  :eek: Thanks so much for the outpouring of feedback.

To everyone who said positive things about the set, thanks so much appreciate your support.

And for all the input, this is awesome. I will be pouring over everything and looking into updates and changes.

Offline konstantin

  • Formerly constexpr
  • Posts: 1824
  • Location: Serbia
  • Dixitque Deus: “Fiat 65%.” Et facta est 65%.
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 23:21:26 »
Let me start by saying that I really like the look of the Phoenician monoalphas with the gradient. And, my word, what a way to implement one of my favorite writing systems. Good job! :)


Phoenician Alphas
Show Image


Looks like − and = are using non-shifted legends, while the rest of the punctuation keys are using shifted legends. You might want to change the = to + (the − can stay as is; it could represent an underscore as well as a minus). The question mark sticks out like a sore thumb, though, so maybe consider using / for that key, or even switching to non-shifted legends altogether.


The making of the Phoenician Alphas
The Phoenician Alphas was a collaboration between JSaintS, myself and Manzel. I wanted to provide some
details on the extended thought process by Manzel on filling in the gaps in a number of the letters. Its quite amazing!! thanks so much man!

Writing systems are a particular passion of mine, so I'm glad you included this bit! Overall you guys did a great job, but I have couple of remarks.

The first one is that you could have used the Hebrew keyboard layout as the starting point instead of QWERTY, since the modern Hebrew alphabet has an exact 1:1 correspondence with the Phoenician alphabet (abjad, for the grammatologically inclined among you). In fact, the Hebrew layout is exactly what's used by enthusiasts to type Phoenician, similar to how the Russian layout is used as a basis when writing Old Church Slavonic in old Cyrillic and Glagolitic.

That being said, I totally understand the desire to go with QWERTY, and that's cool. (Also, the Hebrew layout has punctuation in the Q and W spots, which isn't ideal for a e s t h e t i c s.) However, standard QWERTY-based Hebrew layouts also exist (second page in the PDF linked above), so you might want to take a look at that and adjust your design accordingly. It's already good for the most part, but some letters like tsade, tet, šin etc. would have to be moved around (though I do think your positioning is better for some of them, e.g. het).

If you don't want to do that either (which I wouldn't blame you if you didn't), I'd like to go over a few slightly more subtle points as to why I don't agree with some of your positioning, and how it can be made better. Lots of text ahead, but well worth reading:
More
The ones that had a clear counterpart were just used on that specific key: A, B, D, Z, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q
No issues there!

giml would be C or G. Since it evolved from the greek Γ, I placed it on G. Thus we were missing a C. For this, I used the old symbol, which giml was based on.
No contention here either, at least as far as G goes. However, I believe tsade is a more appropriate symbol for C, and I'll get into why in a bit. (By the way, gamma evolved from giml, not the other way around ;))

yod could be I or J. Since there is also sade, which became the cyrillic Џ (pronounced like the beginning of jump), I used sade on J. But since yod starts with a Y, I used it as that.
For I, I modified the yod glyph and removed the tail
Now this is one (or, rather, three) that I have a problem with. As a native user of Џ (yay Serbian) and a writing system nerd, I can tell you that its derivation from tsade is very, very debatable. Although it resembles Ц (which is descended from tsade, via Hebrew צ), Џ itself comes from Ч (che, like the “ch” in “chair”) — a closely related letter and sound. In fact, it is much more likely that Ч and Џ were derived via Ҁ (koppa) from Anc.Greek qoppa and, ultimately, Phoenician qoph. (Notice the similarity in glyphs between Ч and Ҁ, and how they may be written in a similar way.) In South Slavic languages and Romanian (where Џ originated), the Џ/Ч sounds are not very closely related to Ц /ts/, but they are closely related to the /k/ sound of Ҁ. Therefore, while Ц is related to Phoenician tsade, Џ is likely not, and so the “J/jump” association is no good.

What tsade is good for is the C position. Namely, that Latin letter is very often used for transcribing /ts/ sounds in various world languages, including European, Chinese and, indeed, Semitic language families (e.g. Hebrew), which Phoenician is a part of. As a bonus, the Hebrew QWERTY layout also maps C to tsade. Therefore, I suggest using tsade for the C character, instead of the older form of gimel (which, btw, looks exactly like Hebrew waw to me).

As for I and J, the appropriate letter would obviously be yod. I don't think that yod should be used for Y, since Y comes from a different, waw background (more on that below). I suggest using yod for I, and the modified yod (without the tail) for J. That would reflect how J came to be in Latin as well — as a modified version of I. Alternatively, you can do it the other way around and use the tailless yod for I if you'd like. Either way should be fine (although I recommend the former), as long as yod is used for I and J, and not Y.

waw was difficult since it evolved to F, U, V, Y, and W. Since it is called waw and also pronounced like that, I used it on W
tet went on to became the greek Θ and cyrillic Ѳ (fita). Thus I used it for F
...
I think, only U and V are missing now. I derived both of these from waw. For V, I just made a V. And for U, I made the top part of the Y (waw) round, which seems to be an actual step in the evolution of that letter
Yep, this one was bound to be tough for sure. I agree with using waw for W and tet for F (nice one with the Ѳ throwback). As for U and V, I think U should be a modified (rounded) version of the V glyph, since that's how U came to be in Latin. So how about: keeping W and U as they are (waw and rounded waw), and using the Hebrew waw glyph (, aka. your “older gimel”) for V — which actually corresponds to a /v/ sound in modern Hebrew?

That just leaves us with Y, which isn't yod anymore. For this one, I've got a fun suggestion: make Y also waw, but the way it evolved in Syriac and Arabic: . According to Wikipedia, it evolved from this hieroglyphic: , so you could use that as a reference too.

The rest, like het, samek and šin, I agree with. I think you're missing T in the write-up, but that one falls into the “easy” category :)


So yeah... came for the colored plastic, ended up writing an essay on writing systems. But I hope you find this information useful, and I hope you'll take it into consideration and adjust the legends accordingly. Good job on the set once again :)
« Last Edit: Mon, 13 April 2020, 11:00:54 by konstantin »

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 23:34:30 »
Any renders without accents or novelties?

Will do this on next render on 60/65 percent board (which i think covers off another request)

Offline manzel

  • Posts: 45
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 04:20:40 »
Writing systems are a particular passion of mine, so I'm glad you included this bit! Overall you guys did a great job, but I have couple of remarks.
I expected you having something to say about this. Ultimately, it is fatboycarney's decision. But I wanted to add a few of my comments.

giml would be C or G. Since it evolved from the greek Γ, I placed it on G. Thus we were missing a C. For this, I used the old symbol, which giml was based on.
No contention here either, at least as far as G goes. However, I believe tsade is a more appropriate symbol for C, and I'll get into why in a bit. (By the way, gamma evolved from giml, not the other way around ;))

Noticed later that I worded the bit about giml evolving badly. I meant to say that "it (G) evolved from the greek Γ, I placed it (giml) on G".

Therefore, I suggest using tsade for the C character, instead of the older form of gimel (which, btw, looks exactly like Hebrew waw to me).
Can totally understand your reasoning and think that is a good idea.

As for I and J, the appropriate letter would obviously be yod. I don't think that yod should be used for Y, since Y comes from a different, waw background (more on that below). I suggest using yod for I, and the modified yod (without the tail) for J. That would reflect how J came to be in Latin as well — as a modified version of I. Alternatively, you can do it the other way around and use the tailless yod for I if you'd like. Either way should be fine (although I recommend the former), as long as yod is used for I and J, and not Y.
Again, sounds good to me.

Yep, this one was bound to be tough for sure. I agree with using waw for W and tet for F (nice one with the Ѳ throwback). As for U and V, I think U should be a modified (rounded) version of the V glyph, since that's how U came to be in Latin. So how about: keeping W and U as they are (waw and rounded waw), and using the Hebrew waw glyph (
Show Image
, aka. your “older gimel”) for V
— which actually corresponds to a /v/ sound in modern Hebrew?
I like that version. For sure better than my idea of just arbitrarily (well, almost) modifying glyphs.

That just leaves us with Y, which isn't yod anymore. For this one, I've got a fun suggestion: make Y also waw, but the way it evolved in Syriac and Arabic:
Show Image
. According to Wikipedia, it evolved from this hieroglyphic:
Show Image
, so you could also use that as a reference too.
I think I can come up with something based on Arabic/Syriac waw.

I think you're missing T in the write-up, but that one falls into the “easy” category :)
Dang, originally I wanted to comment on this in relation to tet, but apparently forgot. Nice spot.

Offline harlekein

  • Posts: 464
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 05:05:48 »
Phoenician alphas, split 40s/ortho kit makes this a no brainer for me. I love it!

I would prefer icon over text mods though. Especially for matching the alternative alphas.

Offline NoPunIn10Did

  • Posts: 559
  • Location: North Carolina
    • NoPunIn10Key
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 10:51:46 »
Per my earlier reply, this should be of interest:

Recommendations for KAT Ergo kits

You will probably need to tweak the advice in this guide a little since you're dealing with a gradient colorway, but most recommendations still apply.

Offline konstantin

  • Formerly constexpr
  • Posts: 1824
  • Location: Serbia
  • Dixitque Deus: “Fiat 65%.” Et facta est 65%.
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 21:26:38 »
I expected you having something to say about this. Ultimately, it is fatboycarney's decision. But I wanted to add a few of my comments.

[...]

Heya! Glad to hear you agree with the feedback.


I think I can come up with something based on Arabic/Syriac waw.

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with :)

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 23:17:08 »
I expected you having something to say about this. Ultimately, it is fatboycarney's decision. But I wanted to add a few of my comments.

[...]

Heya! Glad to hear you agree with the feedback.


I think I can come up with something based on Arabic/Syriac waw.

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with :)

Yes thanks very much for the feedback konstantin, manzel and I discussed and you should see an update soon!  :thumb:

Offline Sneetzle

  • Posts: 8
  • Location: The Lands of Nether
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Kit changes/additions being worked on
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 04:18:12 »
I like this! I filled in the form.

Suggestion: leave the atom weight off and center the Fe26 on the key like the rest of the legends.

Also I don't think the Eiffel tower fits the theme well (swords, Phoenicia).
"Tokyo60 with GMK Terminal"

Offline D3LTA

  • Posts: 85
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 07:40:57 »
Phoenician alphas, split 40s/ortho kit makes this a no brainer for me. I love it!

I would prefer icon over text mods though. Especially for matching the alternative alphas.

I have the same feedback as harlekein. I think the Phoenician alphas are awesome, and very unique. But pairing them with the current ortho/40s mods just wouldn't match visually. Therefore, personally I would love to see an Ortho Icon Mods kit, and I think that 40s users would benefit from a similar 40s Icon Mods kit.

Offline harlekein

  • Posts: 464
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 07:46:37 »
Phoenician alphas, split 40s/ortho kit makes this a no brainer for me. I love it!

I would prefer icon over text mods though. Especially for matching the alternative alphas.

I have the same feedback as harlekein. I think the Phoenician alphas are awesome, and very unique. But pairing them with the current ortho/40s mods just wouldn't match visually. Therefore, personally I would love to see an Ortho Icon Mods kit, and I think that 40s users would benefit from a similar 40s Icon Mods kit.

If it's a problem running both kits in text and mods, please make a poll. It could be I'm the minority, but I'd rather see text mods ditched in favor of icon mods.

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 08:32:56 »
Phoenician alphas, split 40s/ortho kit makes this a no brainer for me. I love it!

I would prefer icon over text mods though. Especially for matching the alternative alphas.

I have the same feedback as harlekein. I think the Phoenician alphas are awesome, and very unique. But pairing them with the current ortho/40s mods just wouldn't match visually. Therefore, personally I would love to see an Ortho Icon Mods kit, and I think that 40s users would benefit from a similar 40s Icon Mods kit.

Phoenician alphas, split 40s/ortho kit makes this a no brainer for me. I love it!

I would prefer icon over text mods though. Especially for matching the alternative alphas.

I have the same feedback as harlekein. I think the Phoenician alphas are awesome, and very unique. But pairing them with the current ortho/40s mods just wouldn't match visually. Therefore, personally I would love to see an Ortho Icon Mods kit, and I think that 40s users would benefit from a similar 40s Icon Mods kit.

If it's a problem running both kits in text and mods, please make a poll. It could be I'm the minority, but I'd rather see text mods ditched in favor of icon mods.

Agreed with you both Icons coming soon  :thumb:  Thanks for the interest and the feedback!

Offline Nim

  • Posts: 21
  • Location: Belgium
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Kit changes/additions being worked on
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 20:41:58 »
Really liking the look of this. The Phoenician alphas sold it for me

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #34 on: Thu, 16 April 2020, 10:06:10 »

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #35 on: Thu, 16 April 2020, 10:09:36 »
I’d be interested to see “rusted” alphas and “rusted” mods that use the oxidized color. I think that would be pretty sweet.

FBC, I really liked what you did with Copper, but couldn’t swallow the price tag at the time. A KAT set is much easier to pick up as it usually costs half of a GMK core + novelties set. Running a “rusted” alphas/mods set would be a nod back towards copper.

Anyways, thanks for the consideration!

I’d be interested to see “rusted” alphas and “rusted” mods that use the oxidized color. I think that would be pretty sweet.

Would be interested in seeing too. KAT child kits make this a lot easier than GMK...

Thanks for the comments, and yes the kitting makes this much easier. I have done a lot of considering on this and even ran some of my "hack" renders to see what it looks like, it really takes a way from the gradient and looks off from the feeling of the set. I am hesitant to add this but wanted to get a bit more into your thinking, and of course I am a sucker for the callback to Copper.

One question though were you looking to mix and match the kits or did you want a full oxodized kit?

Also feel free to jump into my discord or PM me here if it warrants further offline discussion.


Offline thedavefulton

  • Posts: 15
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Kit changes/additions being worked on
« Reply #36 on: Thu, 16 April 2020, 15:34:28 »
Can I just tell you which sets I want now?

Offline hmmmwhatsthis

  • Posts: 53
  • no
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Kit changes/additions being worked on
« Reply #37 on: Thu, 16 April 2020, 16:36:28 »
Is there going to be a kit without the gradient?

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Kit changes/additions being worked on
« Reply #38 on: Fri, 17 April 2020, 11:43:13 »
Is there going to be a kit without the gradient?

Some have requested accent colour to be made available, if that is what you mean then its possible, please fill out the form. If you mean with the greys then no that wont be something that will happen.

Offline bukowski

  • Posts: 112
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Kit changes/additions being worked on
« Reply #39 on: Sat, 18 April 2020, 07:20:29 »
The layout and international support ist just amazing, just like the design. I am in.

Offline depletedvespene

  • Posts: 861
  • Location: Chile
  • Old, used-up vespene geyser.
    • Keyboard-related resources.
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Kit changes/additions being worked on
« Reply #40 on: Sat, 18 April 2020, 21:35:17 »
I gotta wonder why going with an "international" kit, given this set is to be run in the KAT profile, and seems to be mixing what other sets have had as "North" and "South" kits. I've also noticed a few mistakes in this kit and others; what's the exact list of national layouts that is meant to be supported?.

On a slightly subjective note, I noticed that there is some inconsistency in the choosing of just the base typographical symbols in some keys, while going with base+Shift in others.


EDIT: I noticed the international kit is the same as the one in KAT Hyperfuse, down to the same errors. Same flawed source, surely.

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Kit changes/additions being worked on
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 19 April 2020, 00:15:06 »
I gotta wonder why going with an "international" kit, given this set is to be run in the KAT profile, and seems to be mixing what other sets have had as "North" and "South" kits. I've also noticed a few mistakes in this kit and others; what's the exact list of national layouts that is meant to be supported?.

On a slightly subjective note, I noticed that there is some inconsistency in the choosing of just the base typographical symbols in some keys, while going with base+Shift in others.


EDIT: I noticed the international kit is the same as the one in KAT Hyperfuse, down to the same errors. Same flawed source, surely.

Let me first say nice to see you comment on my IC  :eek: I didnt get to see you on Copper  :p
Kit updates are definitely happening and JSaintS who is doing KAT Hyperfuse is helping me on the kits, thus the similarity.  Hopefully updates will be coming next week.

I can confirm for sure your second point is being cleaned up (that is all done and just waiting for other kits)

Thanks again for your feedback, hope you can look over the updated kits once posted and provide any additional feedback! 

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron
« Reply #42 on: Sun, 19 April 2020, 00:18:44 »
Phoenician alphas, split 40s/ortho kit makes this a no brainer for me. I love it!

I would prefer icon over text mods though. Especially for matching the alternative alphas.

Phoenician alphas, split 40s/ortho kit makes this a no brainer for me. I love it!

I would prefer icon over text mods though. Especially for matching the alternative alphas.

I have the same feedback as harlekein. I think the Phoenician alphas are awesome, and very unique. But pairing them with the current ortho/40s mods just wouldn't match visually. Therefore, personally I would love to see an Ortho Icon Mods kit, and I think that 40s users would benefit from a similar 40s Icon Mods kit.

Agreed and its coming!!  :thumb:

Offline depletedvespene

  • Posts: 861
  • Location: Chile
  • Old, used-up vespene geyser.
    • Keyboard-related resources.
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Kit changes/additions being worked on
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 19 April 2020, 07:31:47 »
Thanks again for your feedback, hope you can look over the updated kits once posted and provide any additional feedback!

Lemme have a look at the updated kits before you post them, so I can whisk out errors before they become public. ;-)

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Kit changes/additions being worked on
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 19 April 2020, 20:17:17 »
I like this! I filled in the form.

Suggestion: leave the atom weight off and center the Fe26 on the key like the rest of the legends.

Also I don't think the Eiffel tower fits the theme well (swords, Phoenicia).

Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate the suggestion to remove the atomic weight to match the rest of the legends better, but I am partial the weight being there and it is sort of sticking with the approach of my last set and not to mention Phosphorous and Carbon.

I appreciate the Eiffel tower doesnt match but it is made out of iron which fits the overall theme and expect more novelties to be released sooon that will add to a more varied approach of themes within a theme. You get to choose the ones you want to use and customize the theme to be your own.

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Kit changes/additions being worked on
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 28 April 2020, 09:23:00 »
All the updates are posted, to numerous to mention in the comments

New kits, new phoenicians, new novelties, new alpha/mod colour, vendor, artisan collabs. WOW! :eek:

Offline catbus

  • Posts: 58
  • Location: Canada
Any chance for ergo blanks?

Sent from my SM-G965W using Tapatalk


Offline Sorachi.Ace

  • Formerly CaptRobo
  • Posts: 41
  • Co-owner of SodieCaps artisan keycaps
I love the light to dark mono gradient. I'm a sucker for noventies and I think that's a place where this kit really shines. The medieval weaponry and armor is so good.

Offline DrHigsby

  • Posts: 243
  • The doctor is in.
I’m very excited about the changes FBC! Can’t wait to see what all the collab material will be too!

Offline konstantin

  • Formerly constexpr
  • Posts: 1824
  • Location: Serbia
  • Dixitque Deus: “Fiat 65%.” Et facta est 65%.
All the updates are posted, to numerous to mention in the comments

New kits, new phoenicians, new novelties, new alpha/mod colour, vendor, artisan collabs. WOW! :eek:

Wooo, new Phoenician alphas, kits and novelties are looking great! Really nice update. I'm thrilled to see you guys decided to use the same icons and legends as Hyperfuse. :) And that R3 Up key is a good idea actually; maybe it should find its way to HF too.

Offline harlekein

  • Posts: 464
The additional quote ("/') key in ortho kit doesn't seem to be adding anything.

Otherwise, looking great!  :thumb:

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Any chance for ergo blanks?

Sent from my SM-G965W using Tapatalk

If you havent filled out the form can you do that and add it in, I am all for adding it if the interest is there but we are getting up there in kits and while KAT offers us flexibility the vendor and proxy still need to manage all these things and I think we are at 26  :eek:
If you have blank ergo friends have them ask to!! Thanks for the feedback!

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
I’m very excited about the changes FBC! Can’t wait to see what all the collab material will be too!

Thanks DrHigsby and appreciate the early input!! Collabs should be fun!

I love the light to dark mono gradient. I'm a sucker for noventies and I think that's a place where this kit really shines. The medieval weaponry and armor is so good.

Thanks man! OCM again knocking the novelties out of the park or off the board!! Thanks! And awesome that you are  SodiePops are on board for said above mentioned collabs!!
All the updates are posted, to numerous to mention in the comments

New kits, new phoenicians, new novelties, new alpha/mod colour, vendor, artisan collabs. WOW! :eek:

Wooo, new Phoenician alphas, kits and novelties are looking great! Really nice update. I'm thrilled to see you guys decided to use the same icons and legends as Hyperfuse. :) And that R3 Up key is a good idea actually; maybe it should find its way to HF too.

Thank you very much konstantin and Double thank you for your amazing feedback on the Phoenician alphas! R3 Up key, nice eye, that credit goes to eskimojo and liked the idea and want to try it out so included it

Offline Sneetzle

  • Posts: 8
  • Location: The Lands of Nether
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Kit changes/additions being worked on
« Reply #53 on: Wed, 29 April 2020, 00:42:25 »
All the updates are posted, to numerous to mention in the comments

New kits, new phoenicians, new novelties, new alpha/mod colour, vendor, artisan collabs. WOW! :eek:

Awesome!

Any plans for an EU vendor/proxy?

Edit: The Phoenician modifiers in the novelties kit spell "NORI" (iron backwards) is this intentional? Shouldn't it be IRON?
« Last Edit: Wed, 29 April 2020, 01:32:08 by Sneetzle »
"Tokyo60 with GMK Terminal"

Offline KingOfMemes

  • Posts: 845
  • Location: Murica, the best country in the world
In for that Colevrak <3

Offline konstantin

  • Formerly constexpr
  • Posts: 1824
  • Location: Serbia
  • Dixitque Deus: “Fiat 65%.” Et facta est 65%.
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Kit changes/additions being worked on
« Reply #55 on: Wed, 29 April 2020, 09:36:14 »
Edit: The Phoenician modifiers in the novelties kit spell "NORI" (iron backwards) is this intentional? Shouldn't it be IRON?

Semitic languages are written from right to left.

Offline Lazesummerstone

  • Posts: 93
  • Location: Seattle
  • ҠѤӋϚΔΡѕ
    • MY Keycap set - Transmutation
Oh man everything about this set is great. I feel like I'm gonna need a few sets from this GB

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
All the updates are posted, to numerous to mention in the comments

New kits, new phoenicians, new novelties, new alpha/mod colour, vendor, artisan collabs. WOW! :eek:

Awesome!

Any plans for an EU vendor/proxy?

Edit: The Phoenician modifiers in the novelties kit spell "NORI" (iron backwards) is this intentional? Shouldn't it be IRON?

Yes for sure an EU proxy, will update soon!

konstantin got you the answer on your other comment!  :cool:

In for that Colevrak <3

Success! Yes thank you!  :thumb:

The additional quote ("/') key in ortho kit doesn't seem to be adding anything.

Otherwise, looking great!  :thumb:
Oh good catch, thanks! And thank you very much!

Oh man everything about this set is great. I feel like I'm gonna need a few sets from this GB
Thats great to here thanks for the support!

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Updates

Added rusted numpad
Added  R1 and R2 rust enter accents to ortho
fixed Legends on numrow in alphas as it was using Frow white legends

Also will post colours shortly as some have requested but wanted to clarify that the F-Row is actually a very light grey RAL https://www.ralcolorchart.com/ral-classic/ral-7047-telegrey-4

Thanks to everyone for all the feedback, tons of good stuff has come in and a huge number of very positive feedback forms!

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
The additional quote ("/') key in ortho kit doesn't seem to be adding anything.

Otherwise, looking great!  :thumb:

Fixed by removing superfluous key!

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Added Vendors
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 01 May 2020, 14:33:37 »

Very happy to add the following proxies to KAT Iron!!


Europe - Mykeyboard
Asia - Zfrontier
Oceania - DailyClack


Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Deskmat Feedback Form posted
« Reply #61 on: Wed, 06 May 2020, 10:45:52 »
OCM has been hard at work creating some amazing Deskmats, please help us with Feedback at the form posted here https://forms.gle/uQVxH8D9y4qnHGDj9 and in the OP at th top!!

Thanks for your help!!

Offline harlekein

  • Posts: 464
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Deskmat Feedback Form posted
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 04:45:06 »
I am somewhat interested in the novelties, but seeing how many are in there and how many I'd use I doubt I'd get the kit. It goes into too many directions.

  • Old iron armor/weapons
  • Modern objects (Eiffel tower, pipe, which is a good joke, but still..)
  • Elemental properties
  • Phoenician words

I would recommend choosing one or two directions for this and cutting a few out of that kit.

Personally I am favoring the elemental notation and Phoenician words, but that's also because the ENTER novelties are unusuable for me on ortho layout. I do like the sword. The axe should probably be straight.


Offline moljor

  • Posts: 2
  • Location: be
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Deskmat Feedback Form posted
« Reply #63 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 11:51:55 »
I am somewhat interested in the novelties, but seeing how many are in there and how many I'd use I doubt I'd get the kit. It goes into too many directions.

  • Old iron armor/weapons
  • Modern objects (Eiffel tower, pipe, which is a good joke, but still..)
  • Elemental properties
  • Phoenician words

I would recommend choosing one or two directions for this and cutting a few out of that kit.

Personally I am favoring the elemental notation and Phoenician words, but that's also because the ENTER novelties are unusuable for me on ortho layout. I do like the sword. The axe should probably be straight.
I agree with this.
I probably won’t buy the novelties because there’s too much I wouldn’t use but I do like the Phoenician and porphyrin novelties.

Offline rockydbull

  • Posts: 306
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Deskmat Feedback Form posted
« Reply #64 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 13:26:12 »
I am somewhat interested in the novelties, but seeing how many are in there and how many I'd use I doubt I'd get the kit. It goes into too many directions.

  • Old iron armor/weapons
  • Modern objects (Eiffel tower, pipe, which is a good joke, but still..)
  • Elemental properties
  • Phoenician words

I would recommend choosing one or two directions for this and cutting a few out of that kit.

Personally I am favoring the elemental notation and Phoenician words, but that's also because the ENTER novelties are unusuable for me on ortho layout. I do like the sword. The axe should probably be straight.
I agree with this.
I probably won’t buy the novelties because there’s too much I wouldn’t use but I do like the Phoenician and porphyrin novelties.

Buy and then flip on mechmarket. I disagree that the solution is to cut keys in order for some people to buy a kit.

Offline moljor

  • Posts: 2
  • Location: be
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Deskmat Feedback Form posted
« Reply #65 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 13:53:18 »
Buy and then flip on mechmarket. I disagree that the solution is to cut keys in order for some people to buy a kit.

Oh no, I wouldn’t cut keys but just saying I’d rather see some of them as part of the base instead sort of like the identity of the set.

But more people would probably just get the novelty set.

Offline Roche

  • Posts: 8
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Deskmat Feedback Form posted
« Reply #66 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 20:29:40 »
Had to make a GH account to jump in here.  Been with this set since the beginning and my early impression regarding novelties was similar to what is stated above.  I love the more "scientific" ones, but I also really love the variety.  I was a huge fan of GMK Copper for the same reason, really different novelties and the only thing they all had in common was Copper... the theme of the set.

I think these go in a similar direction, where the images are all quite unrelated... except that they are all made of Iron (which is the theme of the whole set).  There is definitely a sub-theme of weapons/armor that has popped up in the kit, which personally is not my jam, however, there are a LOT of people so far that have responded well to that sub-theme, so it would be silly to cut them out.  Also with KAT, the kits are a lot less expensive than GMK, so why not throw a bunch of novelties in there and then you get to pick and choose which you like?

If you don't see any commonality between the novelty kit, you need to look again.  If you get it, but would still rather the novelty kit be tailored to just the novelties that you would buy... well I don't think that's a reasonable expectation of any set designer.

Part of the fun of this set (and Copper before it) is trying to figure out what ties the novelties together if you don't know the name of the set.  You should be able to look at the colors on the board, look at the images on the novelties, and the custom alpha set (if you so choose) and piece it all together.

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Deskmat Feedback Form posted
« Reply #67 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 23:17:57 »
I am somewhat interested in the novelties, but seeing how many are in there and how many I'd use I doubt I'd get the kit. It goes into too many directions.

  • Old iron armor/weapons
  • Modern objects (Eiffel tower, pipe, which is a good joke, but still..)
  • Elemental properties
  • Phoenician words

I would recommend choosing one or two directions for this and cutting a few out of that kit.

Personally I am favoring the elemental notation and Phoenician words, but that's also because the ENTER novelties are unusuable for me on ortho layout. I do like the sword. The axe should probably be straight.



I am somewhat interested in the novelties, but seeing how many are in there and how many I'd use I doubt I'd get the kit. It goes into too many directions.

  • Old iron armor/weapons
  • Modern objects (Eiffel tower, pipe, which is a good joke, but still..)
  • Elemental properties
  • Phoenician words

I would recommend choosing one or two directions for this and cutting a few out of that kit.

Personally I am favoring the elemental notation and Phoenician words, but that's also because the ENTER novelties are unusuable for me on ortho layout. I do like the sword. The axe should probably be straight.
I agree with this.
I probably won’t buy the novelties because there’s too much I wouldn’t use but I do like the Phoenician and porphyrin novelties.

Thanks very much for the feedback, I really do appreciate it and I think that Roche above really covered anything I would say but I will try and add a few things.

The thing I like about the elements and why I seem drawn to doing these sets is the amazing diversity of these elements and where we find them in the world. Iron also being the most plentiful element on earth by mass I believe its everywhere. And I like trying to find it in strange places, so I give everyone a choice on how they want to build out their Iron setup.

The other awesome thing is KAT pricing and the lack of requirement for molds vs GMK, these kits are crazy cost effective and giving the designer the ability to add a whack of novelties to appeal to as many people as possible is really compelling. Check out some other KAT set novelty kits and they are relatively very cost effective and some very large. So I like to take advantage of that and give everyone a bit of what they want. Myself I will likely mix and match, maybe 1 or 2 from each subtheme as they are all from one theme Iron.

As far as the comment of moving some keys into other kits that sort of defeats the strength of KAT where things can be very separated, in GMK managing this would be much more of a consideration.

I hope that explains my thinking and rational behind the kit, and i wont tell you that I am considering one additional totally unrelated novelty  :eek:

again thanks very much for the input, I really do try to incorporate everything I can and I love getting feedback!

Offline harlekein

  • Posts: 464
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Deskmat Feedback Form posted
« Reply #68 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 04:42:00 »
If you don't see any commonality between the novelty kit, you need to look again.  If you get it, but would still rather the novelty kit be tailored to just the novelties that you would buy... well I don't think that's a reasonable expectation of any set designer.

Well, I get it. I'm just stating my opinion. It's clear from the responses that other people do like the diversity or different directions, so I don't expect anything to change at all.  :thumb:

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Deskmat Feedback Form posted
« Reply #69 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 14:23:37 »
If you don't see any commonality between the novelty kit, you need to look again.  If you get it, but would still rather the novelty kit be tailored to just the novelties that you would buy... well I don't think that's a reasonable expectation of any set designer.

Well, I get it. I'm just stating my opinion. It's clear from the responses that other people do like the diversity or different directions, so I don't expect anything to change at all.  :thumb:

For sure and keep the feedback coming!!! really appreciate everything everyone is providing, its much appreciated!  ;D

Offline helborne

  • Posts: 47
  • Location: Boston
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Deskmat Feedback Form posted
« Reply #70 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 20:14:24 »
what I'd really like to see is a blank kit of the gradients. 5 cap (1, 2, 3, 4, 4) kit that you can decide how many to order. only want a few to fill out a weird layout? cool. want to fill a preonic or xd75, just order multiple packs
« Last Edit: Fri, 08 May 2020, 22:16:30 by helborne »

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Deskmat Feedback Form posted
« Reply #71 on: Tue, 12 May 2020, 21:28:31 »
what I'd really like to see is a blank kit of the gradients. 5 cap (1, 2, 3, 4, 4) kit that you can decide how many to order. only want a few to fill out a weird layout? cool. want to fill a preonic or xd75, just order multiple packs

Sorry for slow reply helborne, this is something that has certainly piqued my interest. No promisese but will see what options we have, would love to hear if this is something others would be interested in?



On another note we have a couple updates, a new deskmat form is live, simpler, one choice, please fill out and help decide.  https://forms.gle/4oqRaaN2FaRsc5w68
Thanks

And I would like to update on 2 new artisan collabs, lividitycaps and sludgekidd will be joining in on making some amazing artisan caps for KAT Iron!!!

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Deskmats have been selected by a nearly unanimous vote




And have added new vendor, Funkeys for Ukraine, Russia and Belarus! So glad to have them on board!!!  :thumb:

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Fixed north kit, Legend colour on rust keys was incorrect, thanks for whoever filled in the form to alert me to this!

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Curious if this is something that enough people are interested in, would love to get some feedback here




Offline helborne

  • Posts: 47
  • Location: Boston
thank you for testing this out. In for 14 kits of 1 column!

Offline kajahtaa

  • Posts: 284
I love the idea of blank kits that stick to the theme

Offline IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES

  • Posts: 1966
Curious if this is something that enough people are interested in, would love to get some feedback here

Show Image


It's fun for the quefrency 65 / VE.A and clones and other boards where you've got a left sided macro zone in addition to the blank alphas possibilities. KAT is the profile to do something like it as well.

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
thank you for testing this out. In for 14 kits of 1 column!

I love the idea of blank kits that stick to the theme

Curious if this is something that enough people are interested in, would love to get some feedback here

Show Image


It's fun for the quefrency 65 / VE.A and clones and other boards where you've got a left sided macro zone in addition to the blank alphas possibilities. KAT is the profile to do something like it as well.

Thanks for the feedback each of you, you have helped confirm adding this kit! Will update main post to include  :thumb:
« Last Edit: Fri, 22 May 2020, 10:35:27 by fatboycarney »

Offline DrHigsby

  • Posts: 243
  • The doctor is in.
Curious if this is something that enough people are interested in, would love to get some feedback here

Show Image


At a certain point, it might be kinda cool to pick up 12 of these to cover a Planck. I’d definitely consider blanks once the GB launches.

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Deskmats Selected, Vendors added, Gothcaps collab!
« Reply #80 on: Fri, 22 May 2020, 14:07:17 »
Curious if this is something that enough people are interested in, would love to get some feedback here

Show Image


At a certain point, it might be kinda cool to pick up 12 of these to cover a Planck. I’d definitely consider blanks once the GB launches.
Great to know, they are in for quoting so might be a nice surprise at how many people end up grabbing some.


Also just want to add that I have confirmed a new collab with gothcaps!!!

Offline RedBeardDog

  • Posts: 18
  • Location: Ukraine
Deskmats have been selected by a nearly unanimous vote

Show Image

Show Image


And have added new vendor, Funkeys for Ukraine, Russia and Belarus! So glad to have them on board!!!  :thumb:

nice deskmats

and good news about vendor for CIS

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Deskmats have been selected by a nearly unanimous vote

Show Image

Show Image


And have added new vendor, Funkeys for Ukraine, Russia and Belarus! So glad to have them on board!!!  :thumb:

nice deskmats

and good news about vendor for CIS

Glad to hear!! Thanks for the feedback


Also updated with final novelty kit including additional 1.25 and 1.5 U novs, this was also requested a number of times in the feedback form as previously only phoenician text novs were included.

Offline lz2019

  • Posts: 71
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Novelties finalized, 1u gradient blank kit added!!!
« Reply #83 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 00:56:00 »

any estimation of GB date?


Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - Novelties finalized, 1u gradient blank kit added!!!
« Reply #84 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 22:41:25 »

any estimation of GB date?

Great time to ask that questions, GB is tentatively scheduled to start August 1st

Offline bobaboy

  • Posts: 12
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - GB date August 1st!!!
« Reply #85 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 04:29:36 »
My god August 1 will be a bloodbath for my wallet...KAT Iron, KAT Cyberspace, GMK Oni, GMK Sumi GBs all start on that day

Offline FunBox

  • Posts: 39
  • Location: US
    • Null
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - GB date August 1st!!!
« Reply #86 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 10:29:06 »
I wish the legend on the left shift Icon mod was just slightly nudged to the left so that it lined up with the rest of the legends in that column. It's a small difference but I've seen it done both ways now and when they are symmetrically lined up it just seems more pleasant

Sent from my SM-N975U1 using Tapatalk


Offline Bonsa

  • Posts: 75
  • Location: Belgium
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - GB date August 1st!!!
« Reply #87 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 08:55:29 »
I'm saving up for this set. Those Phoenician alphas are really beautiful!
If the GB is in august, when can we expect the set to ship? I don't know how long the average waiting time is for KAT, but I'm hoping it's not 8 months.

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - GB date August 1st!!!
« Reply #88 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 20:37:08 »
I wish the legend on the left shift Icon mod was just slightly nudged to the left so that it lined up with the rest of the legends in that column. It's a small difference but I've seen it done both ways now and when they are symmetrically lined up it just seems more pleasant

Sent from my SM-N975U1 using Tapatalk



Yeah the legends in this design were fitting with the larger centered icon style. GMK does this as all the legends are left aligned and causes them to line up. It is certainly something to consider as KAT evolves. It would be something I would be doing for this set though but thanks for the suggestion

I'm saving up for this set. Those Phoenician alphas are really beautiful!
If the GB is in august, when can we expect the set to ship? I don't know how long the average waiting time is for KAT, but I'm hoping it's not 8 months.

Thats awesome, thank you very much they really turned out better than I could have imagined with a lot of help getting them  to where they are today.
We dont have that info from Keyreative yet but the kits are in for quoting so hopefully more updates will be available soon.

Offline Primal

  • Posts: 4
  • Location: Baguette
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - GB date August 1st!!!
« Reply #89 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 15:03:18 »
Looks very good!

Offline dennismdc

  • Posts: 5
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - GB date August 1st!!!
« Reply #90 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 22:15:32 »
This will be my first gradient keycaps! Very nice

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - GB date August 1st!!!
« Reply #91 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 22:09:48 »
Looks very good!

This will be my first gradient keycaps! Very nice

Thanks to you both very much appreciated, it will be my first gradient set as well!!!

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - GB date August 1st!!!
« Reply #92 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 22:15:12 »
I wanted to post just a short message here that I have seen the images shared on KAT Milkshake and the concerns raised by some who have received that set. Concerns were also raised in my Discord server.

I also know designers with sets in IC have raised concerns to Keyreative via ZFrontier, and I wanted to let you know I have followed suit with them and raised the same concerns and asked for details on what steps Keyreative  will be taking to resolve these issues going forward.

Hopefully this was a smaller QC issue and turns out to be easy to resolve and impacts only a small subset of shipped sets.

I will keep everyone updated here and on my discord.

Offline p3dstore

  • Posts: 9
  • Location: Minnesota
    • P3D Store
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - GB date August 1st!!!
« Reply #93 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 10:12:48 »
Hell yeah I'm in for a full rusty setup. Gradient isn't my thing but I'm glad to see the alt stuff.

As far as the deskmat I love the rusty one but the atomic number text just feels really out of place. If that was gone I'd buy that too no regerts.

Offline Prefinem

  • Posts: 1
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - GB date August 1st!!!
« Reply #94 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 13:07:09 »
Woohoo! Can't wait for the GB

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - GB date August 1st!!!
« Reply #95 on: Mon, 15 June 2020, 13:42:12 »
Hell yeah I'm in for a full rusty setup. Gradient isn't my thing but I'm glad to see the alt stuff.

As far as the deskmat I love the rusty one but the atomic number text just feels really out of place. If that was gone I'd buy that too no regerts.
Thanks for the feedback, unfortunately you were the only one to mention the atomic numbers so wont be changing but still appreciate the feedback.
Glad you like the rust as just got new renders in, and will release over the next few days, check out the first one just below this reply

Woohoo! Can't wait for the GB

Thanks for the support!!  :thumb:

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - GB date August 1st!!!
« Reply #96 on: Mon, 15 June 2020, 13:44:06 »
Here is the first Rusted Iron render hope you enjoy, thanks to Manzel for the amazing work


Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
And the second "rust" render Let me know what you think!!!

Offline Nudd

  • Posts: 30
  • Location: Sunny Wales
Would have been in for full rust sets, but the iso kit does not  have all the rust keys unfortunately.

All the best with GB  :)

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Would have been in for full rust sets, but the iso kit does not  have all the rust keys unfortunately.

All the best with GB  :)

Thanks for the feedback, I would certainly consider but you are the first person to ask. Is there more rust ISO interest here?  :eek:

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Here is my last render from the "Rust" Collection,I personally love this one, and it surprised me how good it turned out. Let me know what you think?


Offline dmatx1

  • Posts: 147
Is there more rust ISO interest here?  :eek:
Yes, of course. Please make a rusted ISO kit (maybe with rusted Eiffel Tower ISO Enter) or extend the current one, and you will have at least one buyer :)

Offline konstantin

  • Formerly constexpr
  • Posts: 1824
  • Location: Serbia
  • Dixitque Deus: “Fiat 65%.” Et facta est 65%.
Thanks for the feedback, I would certainly consider but you are the first person to ask. Is there more rust ISO interest here?  :eek:

Not an ISO user personally, but if I were, this would be a must for me, as I really dig the rust colorway. :)

Speaking of which, any chance for rust Phoenician alphas? Now that would be a stunner!

Offline Pyk_

  • Posts: 58
Love the full rust render! Would love to do that on ortho, but I’m still happy with just the gradient.

Offline thedavefulton

  • Posts: 15
Would it be possible to add a 1u Ctrl key to the "gray" R1? I run the HHKB layout and prefer to have a Ctrl key on the right of RShift rather than a Fn key. Due to the gradient color, I can't just swap in a key from a different R1. Other than that I love the set and the Phoenician keys! Thanks, be well 🖖

Offline konstantin

  • Formerly constexpr
  • Posts: 1824
  • Location: Serbia
  • Dixitque Deus: “Fiat 65%.” Et facta est 65%.
Would it be possible to add a 1u Ctrl key to the "gray" R1? I run the HHKB layout and prefer to have a Ctrl key on the right of RShift rather than a Fn key. Due to the gradient color, I can't just swap in a key from a different R1. Other than that I love the set and the Phoenician keys! Thanks, be well

You can use End, the molecule novelty, or a 1u blank if you get that kit (odd compatibility is what it's there for).

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Thanks for the feedback, I would certainly consider but you are the first person to ask. Is there more rust ISO interest here?  :eek:

Not an ISO user personally, but if I were, this would be a must for me, as I really dig the rust colorway. :)

Speaking of which, any chance for rust Phoenician alphas? Now that would be a stunner!

Is there more rust ISO interest here?  :eek:
Yes, of course. Please make a rusted ISO kit (maybe with rusted Eiffel Tower ISO Enter) or extend the current one, and you will have at least one buyer :)
There seems to be enough interest between here and the google form so adding these 2





Love the full rust render! Would love to do that on ortho, but I’m still happy with just the gradient.

Glad you are happy with gradient and thanks for the kind words, you are the first to ask for ortho, sorry that kit wont be coming in rust.

Offline dmatx1

  • Posts: 147
There seems to be enough interest between here and the google form so adding these 2

Great, thanks  :thumb: I'm definitely in for a rusted Phoenician ISO set and probably a gradient Lation ISO set too.

Last request from me: could you add a Phoenician B to the Spacebar kits?

Offline angv

  • Posts: 1
  • Location: Elk Grove
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - GB date August 1st!!! New rust kits added
« Reply #108 on: Mon, 22 June 2020, 02:05:30 »
Now that there are rusted Phoenecian alphas, I kinda wanna see a set that has the normal mods with the rusted alphas, though its understandable if its not possible to get another render out.

Offline jawoo

  • Posts: 9
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - GB date August 1st!!! New rust kits added
« Reply #109 on: Mon, 22 June 2020, 11:47:05 »
Support :)

Offline vaf1en

  • Posts: 89
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - GB date August 1st!!! New rust kits added
« Reply #110 on: Mon, 22 June 2020, 12:33:55 »
The rusted Phoenecian alphas are fire - set bought!

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron - GB date August 1st!!! New rust kits added
« Reply #111 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 21:17:34 »
There seems to be enough interest between here and the google form so adding these 2

Great, thanks  :thumb: I'm definitely in for a rusted Phoenician ISO set and probably a gradient Lation ISO set too.

Last request from me: could you add a Phoenician B to the Spacebar kits?

You are going to get spoiled  :p But after adding in Phoenicians in rust this really was an oversight I felt with the popularity of the Phoenicians so the Phoenician B has been added to both spacebar kits  :thumb:

Now that there are rusted Phoenecian alphas, I kinda wanna see a set that has the normal mods with the rusted alphas, though its understandable if its not possible to get another render out.
Might try and get this for any GB renders I get done. No promises though but its what I was hoping to cover.

Support :)
Thank you very much!!
The rusted Phoenecian alphas are fire - set bought!
Amazing thank you!! really appreciate all the community feedback as I really wanted from the start was for the community to drive what got added and the set has turned out great and a lot of kits have been added based on feedback from the community so I hope everyone is looking forward to the Group Buy!!!  ;D

Offline paperassgasket

  • Posts: 485
Took a pass on the Copper because the profile and the color just wasn't it for me.
This set looks spot on though. Great font, love the gradient and the profile.

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Took a pass on the Copper because the profile and the color just wasn't it for me.
This set looks spot on though. Great font, love the gradient and the profile.

Thanks very much, glad this set hit the mark for you!! Aprecciate the support

Offline Bonsa

  • Posts: 75
  • Location: Belgium
Rusted Phoenicians, hell yeah! Beautiful!
+1 for rusted ortho, although I believe you can implement that with a few rusted blanks?
Perhaps I'll just have to buy both rusted and gradient Phoenicians and see what looks best...

Offline unagiOssan

  • Posts: 2
Nothing to add but the design of this set is amazing and I can't wait to get a couple kits  ;D .  Also thanks for including a Colemak option

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Rusted Phoenicians, hell yeah! Beautiful!
+1 for rusted ortho, although I believe you can implement that with a few rusted blanks?
Perhaps I'll just have to buy both rusted and gradient Phoenicians and see what looks best...

Thanks so much, this set has really evolved from everyones feedback!! For now no more new kits as the kits are in to Keyreative for quotes, unlikely to have rusted ortho unless more requests come in but really close to the point of locking down the kits, if not already, really do appreciate the input though!!

Nothing to add but the design of this set is amazing and I can't wait to get a couple kits  ;D .  Also thanks for including a Colemak option

Thanks for the feedback and support  :thumb:

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
I cant recall where the ask came but some people asked to see rusted alphas with gradient mods, which I really didnt think anyone would be interested in well, here it is and honestly this set just keeps surprising me, hope you like it




Offline santela

  • Posts: 227
I like the gradient, and thank god it is KAT so I can afford it. GMK just bleeds me dry.

Offline William_S_Jones

  • Posts: 723
  • Location: Charlotte, NC
  • Best Prime Ever!!!
Dammit


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron-Kit updates Artkey and RADcaps Collabs added GB August 2nd
« Reply #120 on: Thu, 16 July 2020, 21:07:42 »
I like the gradient, and thank god it is KAT so I can afford it. GMK just bleeds me dry.

Dammit


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks for the support!!!

Just a small update, minor date change, just pushing the start date out one day to the 2nd, sorry for the change but hopefully doesnt have much impact to anyone! Also pricing should be starting to come in over the coming days so stay tuned!

Offline bookworm2156

  • Posts: 6
Looks great! I'm looking forward to seeing the pricing breakdown  :cool:

A few posts ago you posted the RAL colour for that top row - good to see it's not white as I first thought.

Would you be able to link us the colours for the other rows as well? Thanks!

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Looks great! I'm looking forward to seeing the pricing breakdown  :cool:

A few posts ago you posted the RAL colour for that top row - good to see it's not white as I first thought.

Would you be able to link us the colours for the other rows as well? Thanks!

Thanks for the feedback and glad you like it and glad the RAL for the top "grey" helped, I havent shared the entire RAL list just to protect the colours until after the GB, I am not sure this is necessary but some designers have started doing this. If you had some specific question about the colour you could raise a discussion in my discord and we could discuss or dm me offline and I might be able to help clarify. (this of course goes for anyone who is interested or is looking to match something to the set colours)


Offline Sslix

  • Posts: 17
1u blanks are a godsend

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
1u blanks are a godsend

Thanks for saying that, I am pretty excited to include and thank those who asked for that kit. Lots of use for those blanks and the price for the kit is going to be very good, prices not quite ready to share yet but its going to be very accessible!

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron- Salvun caps revealed - GB date August 2nd!!!
« Reply #125 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:59:51 »
Salvuns have been unleashed!!!! See OP for more pics at the top




Offline IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES

  • Posts: 1966
Re: [IC] KAT Iron- Salvun caps unleashed - GB date August 2nd!!!
« Reply #126 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 14:48:18 »
Salvun hemoglobin cap is amazing.

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron- Salvun caps unleashed - GB date August 2nd!!!
« Reply #127 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 15:47:45 »
Salvun hemoglobin cap is amazing.

I thought you might like that  ;D

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron- Salvun caps unleashed - GB date August 2nd!!!
« Reply #128 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 18:30:47 »
Pricing I have thus far


Offline vi0till

  • Posts: 237
Re: [IC] KAT Iron- Salvun caps unleashed - GB date August 2nd!!!
« Reply #129 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 06:33:46 »
I cant recall where the ask came but some people asked to see rusted alphas with gradient mods, which I really didnt think anyone would be interested in well, here it is and honestly this set just keeps surprising me, hope you like it

Show Image

Might be getting this one instead of all rusted color way. This is nice.

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk


Offline bookworm2156

  • Posts: 6
Looks great! I'm looking forward to seeing the pricing breakdown  :cool:

A few posts ago you posted the RAL colour for that top row - good to see it's not white as I first thought.

Would you be able to link us the colours for the other rows as well? Thanks!

Thanks for the feedback and glad you like it and glad the RAL for the top "grey" helped, I havent shared the entire RAL list just to protect the colours until after the GB, I am not sure this is necessary but some designers have started doing this. If you had some specific question about the colour you could raise a discussion in my discord and we could discuss or dm me offline and I might be able to help clarify. (this of course goes for anyone who is interested or is looking to match something to the set colours)

Fair enough, was just a curiosity thing really  :thumb:

Looking forward to the group buy!

Offline nbesa

  • Posts: 22
Re: [IC] KAT Iron- Salvun caps unleashed - GB date August 2nd!!!
« Reply #131 on: Sat, 25 July 2020, 15:54:38 »
Love the Rusted Mods! I wonder how those would look with Kat Explosion's Alphas.

Definitely interested in the set, good job!

Offline fatboycarney

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 376
  • Location: Canada
Re: [IC] KAT Iron- Salvun caps unleashed - GB date August 2nd!!!
« Reply #132 on: Sun, 26 July 2020, 21:45:41 »
Looks great! I'm looking forward to seeing the pricing breakdown  :cool:

A few posts ago you posted the RAL colour for that top row - good to see it's not white as I first thought.

Would you be able to link us the colours for the other rows as well? Thanks!

Thanks for the feedback and glad you like it and glad the RAL for the top "grey" helped, I havent shared the entire RAL list just to protect the colours until after the GB, I am not sure this is necessary but some designers have started doing this. If you had some specific question about the colour you could raise a discussion in my discord and we could discuss or dm me offline and I might be able to help clarify. (this of course goes for anyone who is interested or is looking to match something to the set colours)

Fair enough, was just a curiosity thing really  :thumb:

Looking forward to the group buy!

Thank you for the support, just a week away!!

Love the Rusted Mods! I wonder how those would look with Kat Explosion's Alphas.

Definitely interested in the set, good job!

Thank you very much!
« Last Edit: Sun, 26 July 2020, 21:48:05 by fatboycarney »

Offline Pyk_

  • Posts: 58
[IC] KAT Iron- Salvun caps unleashed - GB date August 2nd!!!
« Reply #133 on: Mon, 27 July 2020, 02:09:10 »
I can delete this if it’s not appropriate in this thread, but I thought it might be worth a shot.

If anyone is going to pick up the rusted text mods and would be willing to sell the following keys I would be interested: r1 1u ctrl, sys, alt, shift, fn

And these are less important but I would also be interested in r1 2u shift, r3 1u up, and r3 1u del.
« Last Edit: Mon, 27 July 2020, 02:12:32 by Pyk_ »

Offline M4R7YN

  • Posts: 1
Re: [IC] KAT Iron- Salvun caps unleashed - GB date August 2nd!!!
« Reply #134 on: Mon, 27 July 2020, 15:42:41 »
Great to see a KAT set with full UK ISO support! I'll be keeping a very close eye on this one!

Sent from my VOG-L09 using Tapatalk


Offline perry4761

  • Posts: 57
Re: [IC] KAT Iron- Salvun caps unleashed - GB date August 2nd!!!
« Reply #135 on: Mon, 27 July 2020, 21:03:31 »
Love this!