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Offline CONIN

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #100 on: Sun, 19 July 2020, 15:15:40 »
Looking forward to it!  :3

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #101 on: Sun, 19 July 2020, 15:19:36 »
that's a thicc knob. I'm in.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #102 on: Sun, 19 July 2020, 15:44:23 »
Do we have any news about the pricing ? It would be lovely to know if i have to call my bank or if i can afford it


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Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #103 on: Sun, 19 July 2020, 16:15:51 »
Do we have any news about the pricing ? It would be lovely to know if i have to call my bank or if i can afford it


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There'll be news on pricing fairly soon. I'm just waiting on the prototypes to get to me from the CNC place

Offline sayantanroy47

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #104 on: Sun, 19 July 2020, 16:19:50 »
Is the price been estimated yet?

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #105 on: Sun, 19 July 2020, 16:30:14 »
Is the price been estimated yet?

I do have a very rough estimate but there's still too many unknown factors for it to be accurate. Once the prototype gets to me I'll be able to give a concrete price. Hopefully, that will be in the next couple of weeks

Offline evorus5

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #106 on: Mon, 20 July 2020, 00:00:20 »
How rough is it ?


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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #107 on: Mon, 20 July 2020, 15:23:08 »
This looks great, definitely interested in this project!

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #108 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 06:51:43 »
This looks great, definitely interested in this project!

Thank you! I can't wait to get my hands on the prototypes!

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #109 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 23:53:25 »
The Copper looks amazing, cant wait to see it when you get it and follow this along to GB!!  :thumb:

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« Reply #110 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 00:34:46 »
Copper looks nice but is very prone to tarnishing and discoloration. I used to make lots of copper jewelry and after handling a piece repeatedly it would turn a dark brown/greenish color from the oils on your hands. Prototype looks amazing! I don't have a ton of experience with brass, I do know it can discolor, but not sure if it happens quite as easily as it does with copper.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #111 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 00:52:50 »
Is the price been estimated yet?

I do have a very rough estimate but there's still too many unknown factors for it to be accurate. Once the prototype gets to me I'll be able to give a concrete price. Hopefully, that will be in the next couple of weeks

Can I get a very rough estimate? It doesnot have to be accurate, just a ballpack value is okay.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #112 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 01:41:59 »
Copper looks nice but is very prone to tarnishing and discoloration. I used to make lots of copper jewelry and after handling a piece repeatedly it would turn a dark brown/greenish color from the oils on your hands. Prototype looks amazing! I don't have a ton of experience with brass, I do know it can discolor, but not sure if it happens quite as easily as it does with copper.

My thoughts are similar. I think the copper looks nice, but it will stop looking nice pretty quickly if left uncoated. I have extensive experience working with copper cookware. It is beautiful and high performance but extremely high maintenance. The copper knob would need to be coated, in which case I would just assume go the PVD brass route that is becoming more and more popular with keyboard stuff. Between copper and anodized aluminum, I would personally prefer aluminum. Aluminum also offers color and finish options: anodizing, e coat, cerakote. It's also cheaper.

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #113 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 06:59:38 »
Copper looks nice but is very prone to tarnishing and discoloration. I used to make lots of copper jewelry and after handling a piece repeatedly it would turn a dark brown/greenish color from the oils on your hands. Prototype looks amazing! I don't have a ton of experience with brass, I do know it can discolor, but not sure if it happens quite as easily as it does with copper.

My thoughts are similar. I think the copper looks nice, but it will stop looking nice pretty quickly if left uncoated. I have extensive experience working with copper cookware. It is beautiful and high performance but extremely high maintenance. The copper knob would need to be coated, in which case I would just assume go the PVD brass route that is becoming more and more popular with keyboard stuff. Between copper and anodized aluminum, I would personally prefer aluminum. Aluminum also offers color and finish options: anodizing, e coat, cerakote. It's also cheaper.

The copper and brass knobs will definitely be pvd coated, I'd find it really annoying if they got discoloured. We are also considering a copper knob with a patina, I'll upload renders of it later.
I'm hoping to make the knob material an option but that would depend on how many people were interested.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #114 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 08:05:40 »
I would prefer the knob be anodized the same color as the case or at least contrasting anodizing colors if possible, no polished brass, aluminum or copper.

The knob looks best with no design or just the notch, it looks too busy otherwise.

Three switches is perfect, six might be overkill.

I just bought a cheap usb knob from Amazon for my desktop so I'd definitely love to replace it with this one instead.

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #115 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 08:56:10 »
I would prefer the knob be anodized the same color as the case or at least contrasting anodizing colors if possible, no polished brass, aluminum or copper.

The knob looks best with no design or just the notch, it looks too busy otherwise.

Three switches is perfect, six might be overkill.

I just bought a cheap usb knob from Amazon for my desktop so I'd definitely love to replace it with this one instead.

We are currently looking into options to do different colours, but we would only be able to do the two most popular ones otherwise it would get far too expensive.
What do you think of a silver anodised knob and matching case?

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #116 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 14:40:22 »
personally not crazy about pvd coating, something about it looks off to me, maybe a little too shiny? would personally prefer anodized aluminum (matching or contrasting color to accent), or sandblasted and clear coated brass.

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« Reply #117 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 18:24:17 »
Copper looks nice but is very prone to tarnishing and discoloration. I used to make lots of copper jewelry and after handling a piece repeatedly it would turn a dark brown/greenish color from the oils on your hands. Prototype looks amazing! I don't have a ton of experience with brass, I do know it can discolor, but not sure if it happens quite as easily as it does with copper.

My thoughts are similar. I think the copper looks nice, but it will stop looking nice pretty quickly if left uncoated. I have extensive experience working with copper cookware. It is beautiful and high performance but extremely high maintenance. The copper knob would need to be coated, in which case I would just assume go the PVD brass route that is becoming more and more popular with keyboard stuff. Between copper and anodized aluminum, I would personally prefer aluminum. Aluminum also offers color and finish options: anodizing, e coat, cerakote. It's also cheaper.

The copper and brass knobs will definitely be pvd coated, I'd find it really annoying if they got discoloured. We are also considering a copper knob with a patina, I'll upload renders of it later.
I'm hoping to make the knob material an option but that would depend on how many people were interested.

Yeah, I'm really diggin' that copper knob. I'm excited to see this copper with patina render you guys are thinking of, but it would increase the price significantly though right? I also think PVD might be too shiny, but I don't have anything with PVD coating currently, so what do I know?

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #118 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 20:22:23 »
I would prefer the knob be anodized the same color as the case or at least contrasting anodizing colors if possible, no polished brass, aluminum or copper.

The knob looks best with no design or just the notch, it looks too busy otherwise.

Three switches is perfect, six might be overkill.

I just bought a cheap usb knob from Amazon for my desktop so I'd definitely love to replace it with this one instead.

We are currently looking into options to do different colours, but we would only be able to do the two most popular ones otherwise it would get far too expensive.
What do you think of a silver anodised knob and matching case?

Silver anodizing would be a nice choice

Offline syke

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #119 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 06:24:53 »
Cooper is cool.. It is heftier than Brass. I am worried about it having a patina over time though... Although it can be easily restored to original.

The Cooper hammered finish is awesome... Keep it simple like this without all that knurling and grooves.
« Last Edit: Thu, 23 July 2020, 06:30:22 by syke »

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #120 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 06:56:54 »
Copper looks nice but is very prone to tarnishing and discoloration. I used to make lots of copper jewelry and after handling a piece repeatedly it would turn a dark brown/greenish color from the oils on your hands. Prototype looks amazing! I don't have a ton of experience with brass, I do know it can discolor, but not sure if it happens quite as easily as it does with copper.

My thoughts are similar. I think the copper looks nice, but it will stop looking nice pretty quickly if left uncoated. I have extensive experience working with copper cookware. It is beautiful and high performance but extremely high maintenance. The copper knob would need to be coated, in which case I would just assume go the PVD brass route that is becoming more and more popular with keyboard stuff. Between copper and anodized aluminum, I would personally prefer aluminum. Aluminum also offers color and finish options: anodizing, e coat, cerakote. It's also cheaper.

The copper and brass knobs will definitely be pvd coated, I'd find it really annoying if they got discoloured. We are also considering a copper knob with a patina, I'll upload renders of it later.
I'm hoping to make the knob material an option but that would depend on how many people were interested.

Yeah, I'm really diggin' that copper knob. I'm excited to see this copper with patina render you guys are thinking of, but it would increase the price significantly though right? I also think PVD might be too shiny, but I don't have anything with PVD coating currently, so what do I know?

I'm still not sure about the copper knob with the patina, once we get the prototypes I'll be able to tell you if it will increase the cost significantly. As for the pvd coating, I hope it's not going to be too shiny but I won't know for sure until I see the prototypes.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #121 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 08:45:31 »
Any chance for e-white cerakote?
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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #122 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 16:35:04 »
This is cool. Do want

Offline catamscott

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #123 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 18:04:37 »
Any chance for e-white cerakote?

e-white = white coating via electrophoresis, different than cerakoting

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #124 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 18:28:43 »
Any chance for e-white cerakote?

e-white = white coating via electrophoresis, different than cerakoting

Even if cerakote isn't an option, you can definitely find a cerakote applicator that can cerakote it for you after the fact. You'd also have more control over the color that way. Custom E-coating would be a little trickier but may also be doable.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #125 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 18:46:52 »
Design reminds me a lot of a guitar pedal.

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« Reply #126 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 18:57:07 »
Also your crystals and decoupling caps on your PCB look rather far from your microcontroller (general recommendation is to place those as close as you can to the microcontroller). Love the design though.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #127 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 21:50:31 »
I'm loving the update. Still all in, this looks great!

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #128 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 10:33:19 »
Also your crystals and decoupling caps on your PCB look rather far from your microcontroller (general recommendation is to place those as close as you can to the microcontroller). Love the design though.

Thank you! That's a good spot with the crystal and caps, I didn't notice that. I'll sort it out

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #129 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 10:50:10 »
Do you think I could add resistance to the knob using something like this ?

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rotational-dampers/7932917/

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #130 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 11:16:26 »
Do you think I could add resistance to the knob using something like this ?

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rotational-dampers/7932917/

Not really, there isn't really the space for it. If you look at the exploded render in the original post, the knob sits on a pair of bearings with a hollow central shaft. You could probably add resistance by packing the bearings with thick grease though.

Offline syke

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« Reply #131 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 11:47:16 »


If it has a dial as smooth as the Sony DMP-Z1.  :eek:

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« Reply #132 on: Sun, 26 July 2020, 19:00:35 »
Do you think I could add resistance to the knob using something like this ?

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rotational-dampers/7932917/
Giving it resistance would definitely be fun.

Also, I’d prefer the knob in copper. Both coated and oxidized would be great. I wouldn’t even mind raw copper, I love watching it change after multiple uses.

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #133 on: Mon, 27 July 2020, 03:44:21 »
Do you think I could add resistance to the knob using something like this ?

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rotational-dampers/7932917/
Giving it resistance would definitely be fun.

Also, I’d prefer the knob in copper. Both coated and oxidized would be great. I wouldn’t even mind raw copper, I love watching it change after multiple uses.
I definitely agree, it would be great to see the copper change over time. Most people would probably choose the coated though

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« Reply #134 on: Mon, 27 July 2020, 14:29:39 »
Love the copper. Definitely interested in a coated copper version.

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« Reply #135 on: Mon, 27 July 2020, 22:32:10 »
+1 for coated copper
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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #136 on: Thu, 30 July 2020, 00:48:38 »
Love the copper. Definitely interested in a coated copper version.

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« Reply #137 on: Thu, 30 July 2020, 08:30:05 »
Looks like 李靜儀 Heidi Lee

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« Reply #138 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 02:37:33 »
Actually love the look of the copper knob. I’d be happy spending a little extra for that if it’s an option. Can’t wait for this, whatever form it takes.


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« Reply #139 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 08:00:31 »
Any chance of releasing the knob files after the GB if, for example, someone wanted to cast a knob out of silver? Asking for a friend.  ;D

Also, I may be minority here but damn is patina'd copper amazing to look at and I love the idea of having something that changes based on your use.

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« Reply #140 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 09:48:09 »
I’d def be in for a copper knob if it’s treated to protect from discoloration.

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #141 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 10:57:45 »
Any chance of releasing the knob files after the GB if, for example, someone wanted to cast a knob out of silver? Asking for a friend.  ;D

Also, I may be minority here but damn is patina'd copper amazing to look at and I love the idea of having something that changes based on your use.

Yes! Send me a message on discord - kwlodarczyk#1609 and let's work something out! I'd love to see a cast knob

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« Reply #142 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 11:13:36 »
I’m up for all!

Especially if it comes in shiny polished
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« Reply #143 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 12:51:21 »
All these people asking for coated copper and brass. No love for natural patina?

But seriously, it would be really cool to have raw copper/brass as an option.

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« Reply #144 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 17:34:53 »
Patina is bae.


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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #145 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 20:16:14 »
Raw copper is germicidal too

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #146 on: Sun, 30 August 2020, 01:58:06 »
Any Update on these?


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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #147 on: Sun, 30 August 2020, 04:55:51 »
Would love to buy this ASAP any updates ? I want to throw money at you !!!

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #148 on: Sun, 30 August 2020, 13:51:30 »
Hey everyone!

Sorry for the lack of updates lately. There have been some issues with the initial prototypes which have set us back a bit. They are currently stuck in customs on their way to me, as soon as I have them I will make a detailed post with all of the issues and how we are solving them. If all goes well that should be up in the next few days.

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« Reply #149 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 09:15:57 »
The copper looks beautiful, I would love for it to be an option and would choose it over brass