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1. Introduction & Motivation

This is an IC for an HHKB-Alice-like case & PCB. The name BMEK stands for Bemeier Ergonomic Keyboard. Iíve documented the progress of this design in the Making Stuff Together forums since October 2019.
The entire project (case design, PCB, etc) is published under an open source license (GitHub). Me and others in that thread have machined copies of the design from different plastic materials using small CNCs and 3D Printing services.

Now we want to ascend to a metal (aluminum) version and share the joy with others. The best way to make this also economically feasible is in the form of a group buy.

The design is pretty mature at this point, and the first aluminum prototypes are already on their way to me.
There are still a number of things to be figured out & discussed before heading straight to a GB:

  • An estimate of how many people are interested
  • Final set of color options
  • Kit options and addons
  • Group buy procedure

IC FORMS
1 General Interest Check / ďKeep me updatedĒ form
2 Colors Form [Later, I want to hear some suggestions first]
3 Kits / Options Form [Later, I want to hear some suggestions first]

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2. Design

The BMEK design is unique in a number of ways. First and foremost it sports an HHKB-style layout combined with the ergonomically rotated center clusters similar to the EM7/Alice-likes. We also keep (a version of) the macro-keys on the left from the EM7 layout. The key-placement was redone from scratch, changing some of the (to my mind) awkward key placements of the EM7 layout, such as the stepped bottom row modifiers. Another design principle was symmetry. The case is symmetric along itís vertical center axis, and the key layout conforms to this symmetry: The opposing homing keys and opposing outer-most keys have the same distance to the center of the case. BMEK further differs from your typical Alice-like with itís more aggressive looking outline. The top and side edges follow the key layout instead of being square.









3. Assembly

Itís a high profile case with top-mounted assembly. There is an option to fasten the PCB to the top case when using the hot-swap PCB (a solder-only PCB will also be available).
The typing angle is 6 degrees, the center clusters are rotated inwards by 10 degrees.
The distance from the plate/switches from the ground is kept as low as possible.
The bottom case can house a non-cosmetic weight (i.e., itís not visible from the outside).
The alu case will weigh in at ~700 grams (without PCB & switches), and extra bottom weight adds another 700 grams.





4. Layout Options & Plate

There are four layout options, all supported with the same plate:
  • 2U backspace VS Split backspace
  • 2.75u right Shift VS split right shift
  • 2.75u spacebar VS 2.25u spacebar...
  • ...for each of the two spacebars




Blocker
The original concept for the BMEK was to use 2x2.75u spacebars (for the symmetry). While I wanted to keep this option, the reality is that spacebar kits often just include 1x2.75u and 1x2.25u.
The blocker fills the gap when using a 2.25u spacebar instead of a 2.75u spacebar. It can be used on either side.
The blocker is designed to go just up to the chamfer of the inner edge of the top case.
This leaves the original symmetric lines of the high profile case in tact while filling the missing gap nicely:



Personally, I've started to like the look quite a bit. If this works out to look this good and tight in reality, I feel this is a feature more than it is a compromise.
What is more, alternative blocker designs are certainly possible.  A polished brass blocker design with some logo engraved could add a unique accent. If any artisans want to take this up, Iíd be happy to lend support!


5. PCB

  • QMK (can look into VIA if there is interest)
  • USB-C (full usb-c to usb-c support)
  • ESD Protection (thanks to help from ai03!)
  • 2 Versions: Hotswap & Solder
  • Color: good-old green soldermask
  • 6 optional LEDs for various indicators & cosmetic effects
  • Depending on the layout options, you will require 4-6 2U PCB mounted stabilizers.




6. Manufacturing

Weíre very likely using 3DHubs for the of machining case, plates and bottom weights. Turns out they are not much more expensive than quotes Iíve gotten from manufacturers in China (at least for someone like me without deep connections into the manufacturing scene there). They are also a good fit for me as a single person running this group buy: They will source and QC all the parts before shipping them to me bundled up, also all other costs are know upfront (there will be no surprises with import taxes, etc). 3DHubs also really fits with the spirit of the ďMaking Stuff TogetherĒ & Open Source heritage of this project. It is really easy for individuals to use their service to produce copies of BMEK parts (or derivatives). Of course, single parts are expensive (in particular CNC parts), but I guess itís nice to know that you have that option :).

The same is true for the PCBs. All files and instructions will be made available, so you could just order the PCB yourself from JLCPCB or similar suppliers.


7. Colors & Materials

Case & Plate in this group buy will only be made in Aluminum (see FAQ for why no other materials will be part of this GB)
 There are a number of anodization colors in discussion for the case and plate, and Iím open for suggestions before I start a poll on this.
The number of possible color options will depend on the interest:

Case
  • Black - definitely in
  • Dark Blue (Pantone 533 C) - definitely in (see ďHammerhead ColorwayĒ)
  • Dark Violet (Pantone 5115 C) - likely in (also shown in renders below)
  • (untreated/silver)

Note: I know this will disappoint some people, but I cannot offer e-coatings such as e-white or e-yellow. I donít have that option at my current manufacturer.
To keep the work manageable for me, and the price low, I do not want to involve another (overseas) party.
However, note that both plate and case can always be ordered without any anodization done, so you can do something custom to it.


Plate
  • Black - definitely in
  • Teal (Pantone 3258C) - definitely in (see ďHammerhead ColorwayĒ)
  • (untreated/silver)


8. Renders

Disclaimer: As usual, colors of case / keycap sets in the renders may not reflect reality.
Also, the renders in this thread may not accurately reflect the available layout options for a given keycap set (exact naming of the Sys/Code modfier etc).
I'll be updating & fixing these mistakes wherever I spot them.



GMK Laser (Cyberdeck) + Dark Blue + Teal (Renders of other combinations here!)


GMK Striker + Dark Blue + Black


GMK Nautilus + Dark Blue + Teal


GMK 9009 + Dark Violet + Black


GMK Bingsu (now with fixed mod/alpha colors :cool:) + Dark Violet + Black


GMK Olivia + Black + Black


GMK Dracula + Black + Teal


GMK Dracula with VIM keys from ERR kit + Black + Black


EPBT White on Black + Black + Black


EPBT Neon colors + Black + Teal


EPBT Neon colors + Dark Violet + Teal


Hammerhead Colorway
The Dark Blue Case and Teal Plate colors were picked to go along with the upcomming GMK Hammerhead.
Thanks to @KeyLabs for providing me with their design files for these renders.
The fact that the BMEK looks like a the head of a hammerhead shark is pure coincidence, but once I discovered that, I had to commit:










9. Kit Options

The base kit will at least include the following items:
  • 1x Top Case
  • 1x Bottom Case
  • 1x Plate
  • 1x PCB (hot swap or solder)
  • Screws
  • Rubber feet

I cannot offer to ship the hotswap PCBs pre-soldered with the hotswap sockets. I will have to solder the USB connectors by hand, and thatís already enough work for me. Best I can do is to offer to buy the sockets in bulk and ship them along for you to solder.

The bottom weight might be in the base kit or an extra. Since it is a simple, non-cosmetic part, it will be comparatively cheap to include (if enough people are interested), my one concern is that the cost of including it by default might also increase the shipping cost for some that might not even want it, due to the added weight.

Extra plates & PCBs will be available at reasonable cost.

DIY Kits
Iíve been thinking about offering DIY kits, for those that donít want to buy a full case but want to make their own cases ďat homeĒ. These would just include the PCB, Plate & Screws.
These kits would be available & shipped as in-stock items after the GB is completed.

Experimental: Dampening Kits
I have laser cut a variety of dampening material from foam and silicone. Iíll evaluate these parts with the prototype (stay tuned for some typing A-B tests :) ). If the effect of this is significant enough, I might add this as an extra option.




10. Group Buy / Procedure
 
This is my first group buy as a host, so Iíd appreciate suggestions on the preferred procedure (raffle, fcfs, Ö), duration, payment, etc. of the group buy.
Given that I'm doing this alone, there will be an upper limit on orders/cases that I can sell (in the order of 50).
This is what I can manage while ensuring that everything goes at a good pace and smoothness..

Price
There are still some small unknowns (exact extra costs for extra color options, costs for getting the packaging made, etc)., so no promises, but I know people want to have some ballpark number:
Iím aiming for 300-340Ä for a full kit (Case, Plate, PCB, Fasteners, maybe including the weight), and In the very worst case 360Ä.
This will get easier to keep low the closer we get to ~50 kits. This does not include shipping and likely not include fees.

Progress and Timeline
Hotswap PCB design completed & verified working, solder version in progress (it's just a matter of swapping out the footprints at this point).
The case design is almost final. Prototypes are being manufactured and should arrive within the next 1-2 weeks.
Unless there are big issues with the quality or design, we could potentially move forward with the actual group buy in early August. Better time estimates can be made in ~2 weeks.


11. FAQ

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Why do you publish the files? Arenít you concerned that people will just build their own instead of joining the GB?
This is a hobby for me, not a business. I get a kick out of sharing the design with people that want to make their own versions.
Also, I see "open source" as an added value to the product: If you really want to change something about your copy, be it the color/style or even something functional such as the PCB or plate, you can just go ahead and modify every single part of the keyboard and have it manufactured for you (or manufacture it yourself).
This will certainly remain the cheapest option to get an ALU case, so "open sourcing" doesn't really cannibalize the GB in my mind.

Why no brass/carbon fibre/... plates? Why No POM/PC Case?
To keep the costs low.  All case & plate files are open source, if you want something specific, you can either make it yourself or even run your own group-buy with my files and blessing.
This is especially true for the plate options, which can be made cheaply even in lower numbers.

Why isnít the bottom weight cosmetic/visible from the outside?
The weight is designed to maximize its function (add heft & feel to the case, change the sound profile due to the different material), without adding to the cost: it can be cheaply produced from sheet metal.
For those that prefer a lighter case, they can leave the weight out without it affecting the outer appearance.

What about ISO Enter/Split Left shift?
The iso enter doesnít make sense with either HHKB or Alice like layouts. Personally, I think that the ISO split left-shift is not very ergonomic.
Shift is such an important modifier, and it really needs to be easily accessible with your pinky (and I grew up on ISO before finally ascending to ANSI last year).

Why 1u+1.25u modifiers in the bottom row instead of Tsangan or regular ANSI?
The 1.25u alt key allows that cluster to fit without needing to step the key like it has to be done with the EM7 layout that uses a tsangan/1.5u alt.
I think the 1u gui looks best on hhkb-like layouts (Iíve tried with the 2x 1.25u modifiers instead and I didnít like the looks).
I donít think itís a huge deal keycap-compatibility wise, as most sets come with the right 1u and 1.25u modifiers.

Why keep the macro-key-cluster on the left if you're going for HHKB?
I was mostly referring to the "HHKB" to describe the bottom row/modifiers (as this is arguably the most distinctive feature, and a go/no-go for most). I find the macro-key-cluster is useful. Plus it keeps the case symmetric. Both of these points are reason enough to keep it instead of removing it for the sake of over "puristic" about what an HHKB-like is supposed to be.

So, can I use any keycap set?
You should pay attention to a couple of things when picking a keycap set. Any GMK GB keyset + spacebar/obscure kit comes with all keys, no worries here. Only a few of the cheaper sets come with proper 2.25u / 2.75u convex spacebar keys. However, most come with an extra 2.25u shift key (and the 1.75u rshift key, that frees up the the 2.75u rshift when using the split rshift layout), which makes many of these sets fully compatible with the extra shift keys as spacebars.  The next thing to look out for would be if the keycaps also ship extra keys with proper hhkb-labels (if thatís what you want, i.e. the backspace above enter or the control key to replace caps lock). A second ďBĒ key is also not a common inclusion, but Iíd suggest to just use an interesting other key from that row (i.e. an arrow key, the 1u ď00Ē key, or a 1u modifier).
Iíve set up a little spreadsheet with (cheap) options for supported keycap sets.



12. IC Log


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V0 (29.06.2020) - Official IC opening
V1 (01.07.2020) - Fixed some render colors & legends

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 16:48:58 »
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« Reply #2 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 16:51:25 »
v nice

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 16:56:21 »
I think the colors in your Bingsu render are backwards. The set is Dark Mods, Light Alphas.

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️ | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 16:57:03 »
I think the colors in your Bingsu render are backwards. The set is Dark Mods, Light Alphas.

No. He rendered GMK Bingus!

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 16:57:23 »
I like it :)

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 17:08:15 »
Thanks everybody

I think the colors in your Bingsu render are backwards. The set is Dark Mods, Light Alphas.
Oh wow this is embarassing. I'll take it down until I can fix it! Thanks for noticing!

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 17:16:44 »
I'm IN! :)

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 17:22:01 »
I think you have a GMK Dracula render instead of Nord. Board looks good

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« Reply #9 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 17:24:58 »
me likey

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 17:25:30 »
I think you have a GMK Dracula render instead of Nord. Board looks good

Thank you and well spotted! fixed!

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 17:36:19 »
Looks really nice.


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« Reply #12 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 18:15:51 »
Ou wow. This is sexy. :-* I want it.

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 19:25:38 »
I wish there was a way to secure a place in the GB based on participation. Iíve been following this for a while and Iíd hate to miss the sale!

Anyway, congratulations on the IC and good luck with everything!


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« Reply #14 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 19:33:22 »
YOOOO that dark violet is nutty.

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« Reply #15 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 20:04:04 »
Well now I know what board I'll be using the hammerhead keycaps on. Looks awesome!

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 22:08:55 »
definitely interested. Love my HHKB layout but feel like my hands are tilted unnaturally

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« Reply #17 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 22:37:40 »
Alright, now we talking! :)

Dark violet looks hot. My vote is on that color choice.

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 22:52:49 »
This is one of the best ICs Iíve seen in a long time. Meticulous but not superfluous. I do appreciate the link to the log of how this came to be.

Iím along for the ride and hope to be able to get one or a variation down the line.

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 23:50:07 »
Looking very clean.
Although I'm personally not a big hhkb fan, I'd say I'm definitely interested for sure, great job on the IC and keep up the good work :thumb:

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 01:08:52 »
Thanks everybody for the kind words!

I wish there was a way to secure a place in the GB based on participation. Iíve been following this for a while and Iíd hate to miss the sale!

I haven't mentioned this in the IC as the exact procedure for the GB isn't definite yet, but I thought I had that mentioned in the previous thread: You and the other ~5 early supporters on the old thread & on discord definitely get spots reserved. No brainer!

For those of you that like the Dark Violet: One of the two prototypes I've ordered will be in that color, so we get to see it in real life soon! Tthe other prototype is unanodized/silver.
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« Reply #21 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 01:51:53 »
This looks really nice!

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« Reply #22 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 03:32:55 »
yes

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« Reply #23 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 04:43:28 »
Love it, I've bennlurking around this without posting since around November last year and finally seeing it in IC is so nice. Love the design and definetly in for one if I can get one. Good luck with the IC.
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« Reply #24 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 07:17:07 »
This looks great, thanks! Love the HHKB style modifications to the alice-style layout. Indicator LED placement fits nicely in the blocker space.

I'm assuming your incoming prototype already has the cutout for the flexible spacebar size? I'd really like to see this in person on a real thing. Definitely an interesting idea!

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 08:50:02 »
I haven't mentioned this in the IC as the exact procedure for the GB isn't definite yet, but I thought I had that mentioned in the previous thread: You and the other ~5 early supporters on the old thread & on discord definitely get spots reserved. No brainer!

That's very kind of you, thanks!  :D

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« Reply #26 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 09:12:14 »
Wow, while it kinda seems like a no brainer after you've seen it (although credit where it's due, you are the first to make this happen!), the HHKB bottom row really makes an Alice like board look great! I'm definitely interested in getting one of these bad boys! As far as how the sales of the spots go, personally I'd like to see a raffle given the low number of boards to be produced. Anyways GL with everything moving forward on this OP!

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« Reply #27 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 09:54:41 »
I'm assuming your incoming prototype already has the cutout for the flexible spacebar size? I'd really like to see this in person on a real thing. Definitely an interesting idea!

yes the blocker & spacebar design is part of the plate & case prototypes!

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« Reply #28 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 10:01:41 »
First Alice style board I'm interested in. Still not sure about that extra B though.

Also what up with that EPBT Neon Colors. That an actual set or you just playing around? Would love a set like that but don't see any info on it.

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« Reply #29 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 10:04:59 »
Want one!

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 10:25:03 »
First Alice style board I'm interested in. Still not sure about that extra B though.

Also what up with that EPBT Neon Colors. That an actual set or you just playing around? Would love a set like that but don't see any info on it.

You are going to fall in love with that extra B. It's a game changer

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« Reply #31 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 11:08:28 »
First Alice style board I'm interested in. Still not sure about that extra B though.

Also what up with that EPBT Neon Colors. That an actual set or you just playing around? Would love a set like that but don't see any info on it.

I second KingOfMemes, total game changer :P. Otherwise, you can always make it a modifier, function key, ...

That neon set is real. It's one of the EPBT ABS doubleshot set you can get from kbdfans! I have the white on black one (also shown above), and they have a couple of more colors in stock!

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 11:12:31 »
First Alice style board I'm interested in. Still not sure about that extra B though.

I second KingOfMemes, total game changer :P. Otherwise, you can always make it a modifier, function key, ...

For me it's a must! I have a couple of split keyboards and I noticed I always type the B with the right hand  :))

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« Reply #33 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 11:43:27 »
I remember seeing the files posted for this board and liking it so much I almost paid for a one-off to be made (was just too expensive lol). Definitely in if this goes to GB. Good luck with the process, hope it turns out well!

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« Reply #34 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 13:49:08 »
Well damn. Maybe I really should try this.

If we could get a black bottom/white top or vice versa I'd be <3<3<3

That neon set is real.

You've just made me extremely happy.

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 14:06:10 »
First Alice style board I'm interested in. Still not sure about that extra B though.

Also what up with that EPBT Neon Colors. That an actual set or you just playing around? Would love a set like that but don't see any info on it.

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« Reply #36 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 17:46:51 »
Exciting to see this coming one step closer to reality. I'm not a fan of the extra B but then again it's not exact it a deal breaker either.

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« Reply #37 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 18:10:42 »
This board is absolutely beautiful. I cannot wait! I do hope that the gb is not just fcfs... with how crazy this community has gotten recently i'd rather take my chances with a raffle.

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #38 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 19:18:30 »
This board is absolutely beautiful. I cannot wait! I do hope that the gb is not just fcfs... with how crazy this community has gotten recently i'd rather take my chances with a raffle.
What do you mean with how crazy the community has gotten?

Offline Zurg Eon

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #39 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 20:00:52 »
Very cool, my eyes are peeled!

"Personally, I think that the ISO split left-shift is not very ergonomic."
As an ISO user I agree with this. I use a full left shift with ISO enter, and sometimes ANSI enter if I go HHKB style.

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 04:59:45 »
Wow I just saw GMK Laser R2. Both Cyberdeck and Synthwave M170 colorways go well with literally every single case color that I've proposed.
For $99 you get a GMK keycap set with full support (they even packaged split spacebars in the base kits!), and with the "Bars" kit you can even do the 2x2.75u layout!

Cyberdeck:




Synthwave M170:


« Last Edit: Thu, 02 July 2020, 05:27:26 by jouz »

Offline xanderman1014

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 12:27:05 »
I have a feeling this could be my first mech Group Buy.

Also - GMK Olive vs GMK Olivia (pretty sure it's just a typo)

Offline Kirihuna

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 16:56:26 »
I would love an e-white edition, I'd prefer that over an aluminum that I have to go get powder coated myself (not because I'm lazy but because it's usually a better job)

Offline GhostEther

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 18:27:42 »
I need this in purple for the GMK Mecha-01!

Offline Kirihuna

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 21:29:09 »
I just noticed you have no renders of a full sized right shift.

Now, maybe no one uses that in the HHKB layout, which is fine, but it's offered. But the plate does not appear to have a stabilizer cutout for the full sized right shift?

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #45 on: Fri, 03 July 2020, 02:51:39 »
I have a feeling this could be my first mech Group Buy.

Also - GMK Olive vs GMK Olivia (pretty sure it's just a typo)

Thanks, fixed!

I just noticed you have no renders of a full sized right shift.

Now, maybe no one uses that in the HHKB layout, which is fine, but it's offered. But the plate does not appear to have a stabilizer cutout for the full sized right shift?

The stabilizer cutouts are right there:


(maybe you were referring to the picture with the foam cutouts for dampening: correct, that layout option wasn't part of the design yet when I made those!)

But I agree that if I'm offering the option, I should show it in the renders! Here are two, I'll add them to the main post:



Offline ronnie_gogs

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 03 July 2020, 11:49:46 »
Yes so much yes..

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 03 July 2020, 12:07:22 »
Count us in  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Offline gnho

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 06 July 2020, 01:43:39 »
Sweeeeet!

Offline obosob

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Re: [IC] BMEK - Alice + HHKB = ❤️🦈 | Prototypes arriving soon
« Reply #49 on: Mon, 06 July 2020, 02:39:46 »
Add support for split left shift so that people can make this more ergo if they want.