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[IC] GMK Alpine | Pricing Announced! GB December 1st
« on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 11:33:40 »


GMK Alpine
Welcome to Switzerland!


GB December 1st - January 12th


Have you ever been in the Alps and wanted to take a piece of it home with you? GMK Alpine is a Keycap set revolving around the beautiful Swiss Alps.
In Switzerland not only do we enjoy hiking, skiing, climbing or touring the mountains but the many different mountain animals enjoy the peaceful life up there and the Farmers watch their livestock while the herd dog plays around in the grass.
The Swiss mountains are a major part of my culture and something I would love to share with you. Even during tragic times, the Swiss alps helped defend Switzerland and gave anyone a hard time invading this beautiful country. They served as not only a shield but also as a bunker to keep the whole population safe.
This is my way of capturing the magnificent alps.





Inspiration:


The Novelties are based on real Mountains:
Esc is the Famous “Matterhorn”
Enter is from “Berner Oberland”: Eiger – Mönch – Jungfrau
This was a project that I was able to put a ton of time into because of quarantine and allowed me to truly put the beauty of the alps into my design.
I have spent much time practicing and growing my skills and truly hope you enjoy.




IC Form and Discord Server:
Please share your feedback, opinions, and general thoughts on this set below.
If you are interested, please fill out this IC Forum :) 

https://forms.gle/WEniB1yToSvBhLrN9
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Kits:










Colors:
For the colors I wanted a simple look that kind of resembles a mountain.
The 4012 is a gray with a hint of purple as to not make this a boring gray set.
The WS2 resembles the Snow and the beautiful Edelweiss, the national Swiss flower.







Renders (Done by me):




Nemui by Bachoo




Whiskey by Me




M60 by Rama

Old Renders:
More





Rama U80-A by Rama




Haus 65 by Hand




Candybar by TKC






Alpine65 by Bitmap






M60-A by Rama

Renders do not reflect final product.


Deskmats:





Thank you so much to Virtual Designworks for the amazing art. It's been an absolute pleasure to work with you and I love what you did!





Collaborations:

Keebstuff Kabelmanufaktur

I'm very happy to announce that I will be working with Keebstuff on a limited number of high quality custom cables!
He puts amazing and careful work into each cable and they end up looking fantastic!

The cables will be coiled with the coiled side being Purple and the non coiled side will be white. They will come with LEMO Connectors (Made in Switzerland :D)!
You can see more pictures of the cable and his other awesome work on his Instagram


GMK Alpine x Keebstuff Cables will also be available for preorder at the same time as the GB Dec 1st - Jan 12th






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Vendors:
EU: Candykeys
NA: Kono.store
Asia: KBDFans
Australia: Daily Clack
UK: ProtoTypist
Canada: Ashkeebs



Price:

Waiting on ProtoTypist Deskmat price, will update soon


Additional Information:
High Quality Double-shot 1.5mm Thick ABS Cherry profile Keycap set.
Made in Germany by GMK Electronic design GmbH




To Do:
  • Box Design



Update Log:
22/07
More
- Due to Popular demand, I have added the white Esc and Enter keys to the Base kit.
 The Enter, Arrows, and Spacebars are staying to boost sales/ popularity of the other kits as well as to not make the base kit price absurdly high.
 - Renamed the "Accents kit" to "Ascents kit"  :D
 - Added Alpine65 Renders thanks to Bitmap
 - I got the first proxy but I'd like to get some more information before I announce that

23/07
More
- Replaced UK ISO support with Generic ISO support
 - Added r3 PgUp
 - Added r4 PgDn
 - Added Ascend caps lock novelty
 - Changed Prnt Sc to Print

25/07
More
- Nord Kit added
 - Removed all "Lock"'s from the keys (I hope GMK fix their molds)
If you want the Nord kit, don't resubmit the form as you should've already voted yes for "Would you purchase a Nord kit?"
If I made any mistakes with the Nord kit, kindly let me know, Thanks!

29/07
More
Vendor update:
I'm very happy to have gotten Candykeys on board with this project!
EU: Candykeys
Asia: KBDFans
Canada: Auramech
More to come

03/08
More
Kit Update:
Went from Code to System keys
Removed the 00 from Base kit, 2u and 1u spacebars from spacebarkit, added 1.25u spacebar in spacebarkit
Added Daily Clack to the Australian Vendors list :D tysm for working with me!

04/08
More
Vendor Update:
Happy to anounce I have found all my vendors, Kono.store will be my US Vendor!

05/08
More
Keebstuff Collaboration:
Happy to announce that I will be working with Keebstuff on a Custom Cable!

30/09
More
Deskmats
Added Deskmat designs, Vote for favorite 4!

22/10
More
Render Update
Added new, better renders, with more accurate colors.
Also did small kitting changes:
Changed Numbpad Symbols
Added Back arrow to 1.75u backspace
Removed R1 Back from 40% Kit





Thanks!!
While there were a lot of people who gave feedback and helped with things, I would especially like to thank 1 person who helped me.


Imperfect Link:
Thanks for the countless blender questions which you answered, the cases you redesigned so they’d be easier to work with and reminding me that I should’ve used texture legends and good keycap geometry. :p

« Last Edit: Mon, 23 November 2020, 03:49:50 by Bregoli »

Offline Swishy

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 11:34:29 »
Looks awesome

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 11:34:30 »
Love the mountain novelties!

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Offline mrpetrov

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 11:36:07 »
Nice set man, good job.

I'd personally prefer to see the white accented esc and Enter keys (not the novelties, just the accents) in the base kit somehow...

Offline 100 percent horse

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 11:36:36 »
Very clean and tasteful. Nice work on this.

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 11:37:26 »
Ooof this is a good one

Offline Swishy

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 11:37:49 »
Nice set man, good job.

I'd personally prefer to see the white accented esc and Enter keys (not the novelties, just the accents) in the base kit somehow...
that’s what I told him

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 11:38:28 »
It’s a pretty set, very calm and understated. I can’t say I’m entirely sold on the mountain novelties, being silhouettes they don’t immediately jump out as being mountain ranges to me.
     
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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 11:52:25 »
Let me know if you want the Alpine65 for renders! ;)

Offline SirTimmyTimbit

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 11:52:43 »
looks fantastic!

White spacebar and enter in base kit?

Offline konstantin

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 12:08:37 »
I'm going to echo what a few other people have said so far and suggest that at least a few of the white accent keys find their way into the base kit.

Other than that, I'm also going to suggest that you exchange the ISO-UK-specific keys for more basic ISO support: ISO Enter, 1.25u Shift, R3 \|, R4 <>. This will make a room for a few other, potentially more commonly used keys in base — such as the white accents, or R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn.
It's also more thematically appropriate, since I don't recall many people in Switzerland using UK layouts (coincidentally, Swiss layouts do use R4 <> keys).

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 12:15:05 »
The purple case offered by Drop for Planck is very grey-ish, and the color here looks like it will be a great match for it.

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 12:27:56 »
Rama mountain. If Fuji gets one the Alps should too

This is one of the best sets I've seen in the last year.
« Last Edit: Tue, 21 July 2020, 12:46:10 by IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES »

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 12:46:39 »
I'M IN !!!!!!
Looks awesome!!!!!

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 12:51:01 »
Looks so good! The only thing i'd change is add the accent enter and esc to base kit and add more novelties into the accent kit to make up for the change.

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 14:00:28 »
Very nice. You have a winner here. I agree that the accent enter and esc should be included in the base kit though.

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 14:03:56 »
No one:
Histiocytes: "ascend" caps lock key?

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 14:04:03 »
Hmm really like these colors - agree that the mountain novelties could do with some redesigning, interested to see how the set will develop! Keeping an eye on this one.

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 14:09:03 »
I love the colors. Thank you for including an extra B in the base kit. Totally in for this one.

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 14:24:13 »
The purple actually looks amazing, empty my wallet sir. Would love the purple split space bars to be included in the spacebar kit instead of the 40s. Just me being picky tho, so don’t mind
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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 15:03:31 »
Missed opportunity: call the Accents kit the Ascents kit.

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 15:10:05 »
No one:
Histiocytes: "ascend" caps lock key?

nice

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 15:14:22 »
Looks awesome!

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 16:57:21 »
Really enjoy the simplistic approach to kits without cutting out things like numpad. Also very much love the design and color choice. Do you have physical samples of the RAL's you've chosen? While I personally enjoy the color, I wouldn't call it gray with a hint of purple. It's very clearly purple. Definitely filling out the form and keeping an eye on this.
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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 17:02:13 »
Really enjoy the simplistic approach to kits without cutting out things like numpad. Also very much love the design and color choice. Do you have physical samples of the RAL's you've chosen? While I personally enjoy the color, I wouldn't call it gray with a hint of purple. It's very clearly purple. Definitely filling out the form and keeping an eye on this.
he does have a ral book and it was color matched might just be a bad description

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 17:40:31 »
Really enjoy the simplistic approach to kits without cutting out things like numpad. Also very much love the design and color choice. Do you have physical samples of the RAL's you've chosen? While I personally enjoy the color, I wouldn't call it gray with a hint of purple. It's very clearly purple. Definitely filling out the form and keeping an eye on this.

Yeah looking at it, it defiantly is more purple than gray. I don't know why I described it the way I did. As Swishy mentioned, I do have a RAL fan and have color matched the set.

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« Reply #26 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 17:44:58 »
It’s a tint of purple. You’re good.

Ok. Consider. 4 different R1 mountain caps in the novs kit. Buy 3, and then you get: mountain range f row. How about it.

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 18:47:57 »
Love it, some accents/novelties for the bottom row would make this an instabuy for me :)

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 21:26:59 »
Looking great, congrats on making it to IC. I would try flipping the shading on the novelties around to dominate the design, it may give them some additional heft befitting a mountain.

Also, one more vote for white accents in base kit.

Good luck!

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 10:05:01 »
Update!

- Due to Popular demand, I have added the white Esc and Enter keys to the Base kit.
 The Enter, Arrows, and Spacebars are staying to boost sales/ popularity of the other kits as well as to not make the base kit price absurdly high.
 - Renamed the "Accents kit" to "Ascents kit"  :D
 - Added Alpine65 Renders thanks to Bitmap
 - I got the first proxy but I'd like to get some more information before I announce that

Also I got a few responses on forms to add novelties, I want to keep this set simple novelty wise but I do have some ideas which I hope I could do with some artisan collabs :) I think they wouldn't be as good if it's just printed on a key cap.
« Last Edit: Wed, 22 July 2020, 10:10:51 by Bregoli »

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 10:08:39 »
Looks great, wish there are some white accent keys in the base.
Being swiss myself, i will buy it anyway. Wish there where more mountainn-keys. There is more than just Matterhorn, Eiger, Mönch und Jungfrau...

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 10:12:00 »
Looks great, wish there are some white accent keys in the base.
Being swiss myself, i will buy it anyway. Wish there where more mountainn-keys. There is more than just Matterhorn, Eiger, Mönch und Jungfrau...

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I just added white accents :D

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 11:15:13 »
Looks great, wish there are some white accent keys in the base.
Being swiss myself, i will buy it anyway. Wish there where more mountainn-keys. There is more than just Matterhorn, Eiger, Mönch und Jungfrau...

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I just added white accents :D

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 18:23:37 »
I'm going to echo what a few other people have said so far and suggest that at least a few of the white accent keys find their way into the base kit.

Other than that, I'm also going to suggest that you exchange the ISO-UK-specific keys for more basic ISO support: ISO Enter, 1.25u Shift, R3 \|, R4 <>. This will make a room for a few other, potentially more commonly used keys in base — such as the white accents, or R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn.
It's also more thematically appropriate, since I don't recall many people in Switzerland using UK layouts (coincidentally, Swiss layouts do use R4 <> keys).

You convinced me :p
I'll make generic ISO support.

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine | Base and Ascents kit Update (22/07)
« Reply #34 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 00:14:47 »
In for this! Love the subtle color. Any considerations for a different color scheme for the modifier keys? I have a creme-ish color in mind that I feel like may complement the existing alpha keys' colors.

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine | Base and Ascents kit Update (22/07)
« Reply #35 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 03:21:23 »
In for this! Love the subtle color. Any considerations for a different color scheme for the modifier keys? I have a creme-ish color in mind that I feel like may complement the existing alpha keys' colors.

I don't plan on doing different colored alphas or modifiers. I want to keep this set monochrome with accents.

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine | Base and Ascents kit Update (23/07)
« Reply #36 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 10:23:32 »
Another fast update, next updates won't come as frequent!

 - Replaced UK ISO support with Generic ISO support
 - Added r3 PgUp
 - Added r4 PgDn
 - Added Ascend caps lock novelty
 - Changed Prnt Sc to Print

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine | Base and Ascents kit Update (23/07)
« Reply #37 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 10:50:39 »
Living in switzerland i want to say THANK YOU so much for doing this keyset without swiss layout (not even DE).


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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine | Base and Ascents kit Update (23/07)
« Reply #38 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 11:23:08 »
Living in switzerland i want to say THANK YOU so much for doing this keyset without swiss layout (not even DE).


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A pure Swiss layout wont nearly be popular enough, what I'm open on doing is adding a nord kit, which is why I asked in the form if people wanted to see it.

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine | Base and Ascents kit Update (23/07)
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 15:06:23 »
Living in switzerland i want to say THANK YOU so much for doing this keyset without swiss layout (not even DE).


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A pure Swiss layout wont nearly be popular enough, what I'm open on doing is adding a nord kit, which is why I asked in the form if people wanted to see it.

I was thinkning that maybe for something inspired by Swiss alps, it would have something more than others keyset. Aand include swiss layout in the Norde kit.
We will never have acces to GMK keysets then...

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine | Base and Ascents kit Update (23/07)
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 16:11:29 »
Living in switzerland i want to say THANK YOU so much for doing this keyset without swiss layout (not even DE).


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A pure Swiss layout wont nearly be popular enough, what I'm open on doing is adding a nord kit, which is why I asked in the form if people wanted to see it.

I was thinkning that maybe for something inspired by Swiss alps, it would have something more than others keyset. Aand include swiss layout in the Norde kit.
We will never have acces to GMK keysets then...

Yeah, if I didn't miscount, the Swiss layout has 15 unique keys which would make Nord kit prices higher and it's not worth it sadly. :(

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine | Base and Ascents kit Update (23/07)
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 16:21:05 »
Living in switzerland i want to say THANK YOU so much for doing this keyset without swiss layout (not even DE).


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A pure Swiss layout wont nearly be popular enough, what I'm open on doing is adding a nord kit, which is why I asked in the form if people wanted to see it.

I was thinkning that maybe for something inspired by Swiss alps, it would have something more than others keyset. Aand include swiss layout in the Norde kit.
We will never have acces to GMK keysets then...

Yeah, if I didn't miscount, the Swiss layout has 15 unique keys which would make Nord kit prices higher and it's not worth it sadly. :(

Yes i understand that. Because people wouldn't buy this kit because the price is higher than others.
I don't know this buisnes at all, but why not make a render of a CH kit, and a high MOQ (Could be 4 times less than norde or something like that) ?

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine | Base and Ascents kit Update (23/07)
« Reply #42 on: Sat, 25 July 2020, 06:51:35 »
I really like this set but the lack of a white spacebar and white arrow keys in the base kit feels like it forces me to buy the other kits just for those. I know that you are going for a more monochrome look but I would appreciate it if it has a little more white in the base kit than just the escape and enter keys.

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine | Base and Ascents kit Update (23/07)
« Reply #43 on: Sat, 25 July 2020, 08:06:19 »
I really like this set but the lack of a white spacebar and white arrow keys in the base kit feels like it forces me to buy the other kits just for those. I know that you are going for a more monochrome look but I would appreciate it if it has a little more white in the base kit than just the escape and enter keys.

Many kits don't include accented space bar because many users don't use them and people would rather use the alpha colored space bar. As for the arrow keys, I have a small amount of novelties and am not currently planning on adding more (this might change), so I would like to keep arrow keys in there. I'm also trying to keep base kit prices as low as I can and adding space bar and arrow keys will make base kit a bit more expensive and force people who want the monochrome look to purchase an expensive set, to then not use the accents. :D I hope this made sense.

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine | Nord Kit added!!! (25/7)
« Reply #44 on: Sat, 25 July 2020, 11:07:11 »
Update 25/7

 - Nord Kit added
 - Removed all "Lock"'s from the keys (I hope GMK fix their molds)
If you want the Nord kit, don't resubmit the form as you should've already voted yes for "Would you purchase a Nord kit?"
If I made any mistakes with the Nord kit, kindly let me know, Thanks! :D

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine | Nord Kit added!!! (25/7)
« Reply #45 on: Sun, 26 July 2020, 12:19:17 »
Periwinkle! I like this.

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine | Vendor Update (29/7)
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 29 July 2020, 10:23:02 »
Hello, back with another small update to show I've been working behind the scenes!
I'm very happy to have gotten Candykeys on board with this project! They will help me with various stuff which I'm very grateful for :D
The current Vendors are:
EU: Candykeys
Asia: KBDFans
Canada: Auramech
More to come
If you're a vendor and would like to become a proxy for Alpine, just PM me!

Deskmats:
I'm working on it!  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine | Vendor Update (29/7)
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 29 July 2020, 11:16:48 »
Hello, back with another small update to show I've been working behind the scenes!
I'm very happy to have gotten Candykeys on board with this project! They will help me with various stuff which I'm very grateful for :D
The current Vendors are:
EU: Candykeys
Asia: KBDFans
Canada: Auramech
More to come
If you're a vendor and would like to become a proxy for Alpine, just PM me!

Deskmats:
I'm working on it!  :thumb:
Thank you for candykeys. They are the only EU vendor to not charge EU-VAT for shipments to switzerland! I always use them if i can.

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine | Vendor Update (29/7)
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 29 July 2020, 11:59:10 »
I'm getting 2 kits of the Alpine 65% i hope the GB would be soon, i'll to get this one too.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Alpine
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 29 July 2020, 12:03:45 »
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