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Re: [IC] GMK Red Alert - the classic returns 🔴🟤
« Reply #100 on: Fri, 07 August 2020, 05:49:11 »
I think you're right Puddsy, and in that spirit I've pared back my novelty ideas. This will instead become an Extension Kit, looking something like this

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Your idea of going with full English (UK) over ISO in the base kit and get full support for English (US) over ISO (terminal style) in the extension kit is actually pretty good.

The only key I'm missing is... Pause. Yes, I know replacing it for Break is your identifying quirk, but having the former available is nevertheless desirable (IMNAAHO). I think it would be a good addition to the extension kit.


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Re: [IC] GMK Red Alert - the classic returns 🔴🟤
« Reply #101 on: Fri, 07 August 2020, 05:54:34 »
In an unrelated note, I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned that the numpad has an R2-R3 2U numpad+ key, but not the 1U replacements (R2 - and R3 + (*)) for some systems.

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« Reply #102 on: Fri, 07 August 2020, 08:15:10 »
I think you're right Puddsy, and in that spirit I've pared back my novelty ideas. This will instead become an Extension Kit, looking something like this

Show Image



Your idea of going with full English (UK) over ISO in the base kit and get full support for English (US) over ISO (terminal style) in the extension kit is actually pretty good.

The only key I'm missing is... Pause. Yes, I know replacing it for Break is your identifying quirk, but having the former available is nevertheless desirable (IMNAAHO). I think it would be a good addition to the extension kit.


P.S.: my wallet is crying again.


Full credit to konstantin (and your great website, honestly) for helping me learn about ISO layouts, and to Jampot for reminding me that, in fact, 6 keys are greater than 2, and moving UK-ISO into base would lower the extension kit cost.

As for “Break,” I’m actually conflicted about keeping it. Haha great designer pun, sure, but I don’t know that it actually fits my goal for this set. I want folks to access a set they’ve been missing for years with standard caps. I’ll think about this.

In an unrelated note, I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned that the numpad has an R2-R3 2U numpad+ key, but not the 1U replacements (R2 - and R3 + (*)) for some systems.

Oops. Still working out my KLE workflow in the absence of a go-to Renderman for this project. I’ve fixed that. Great catch, thanks.

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« Reply #103 on: Fri, 07 August 2020, 13:36:22 »
Keep Break key somewhere. Would love a red Rama cherry.

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« Reply #104 on: Fri, 07 August 2020, 14:40:09 »
Man, I love the idea of the Break key—it's a nice subtle signature on this. I totally get why the Pause key is important, though, especially if this is a "restoration" of a historical set. I'm all over the place on this one, so I get it, but hopefully you can offer both!

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« Reply #105 on: Fri, 07 August 2020, 14:50:58 »
Man, I love the idea of the Break key—it's a nice subtle signature on this. I totally get why the Pause key is important, though, especially if this is a "restoration" of a historical set. I'm all over the place on this one, so I get it, but hopefully you can offer both!

Keep Break key somewhere. Would love a red Rama cherry.

Thank you both. I'm deciding between keeping it in the base kit or moving it to extension. I'd like to keep it in the GB somewhere, though. :)

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Re: [IC] GMK Red Alert - the classic returns 🔴🟤
« Reply #106 on: Fri, 07 August 2020, 15:45:20 »
You could move 'Break' to the compute kit and have a traditional pause key in the base kit.

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« Reply #107 on: Fri, 07 August 2020, 15:49:42 »
You could move 'Break' to the compute kit and have a traditional pause key in the base kit.

Yeah! That's the current idea, although I'll sleep on it before deciding.

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Re: [IC] GMK Red Alert - the classic returns 🔴🟤
« Reply #108 on: Fri, 07 August 2020, 17:00:59 »
Extension kit is looking fire. I'm glad split spacebars made it in there. Only means I won't be getting them from og spacekeys r2 :cool:

Would you consider adding a single r5 1.5 fn or function key to the extension? That would make it truly endgame (at least for me), but will be picking up every kit regardless and that rama cherry cap if it makes it through :p

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« Reply #109 on: Fri, 07 August 2020, 19:01:04 »
Hangul add on kit bro

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Re: [IC] GMK Red Alert - the classic returns 🔴🟤
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Re: [IC] GMK Red Alert - the classic returns 🔴🟤
« Reply #111 on: Mon, 10 August 2020, 18:19:40 »
Announcing the first vendor for GMK Red Alert: Monokei for SEA.

Really happy to offer this set alongside their amazing keyboards, as well as keyset GBs from other amazing folks.

Extension kit is looking fire. I'm glad split spacebars made it in there. Only means I won't be getting them from og spacekeys r2 :cool:

Would you consider adding a single r5 1.5 fn or function key to the extension? That would make it truly endgame (at least for me), but will be picking up every kit regardless and that rama cherry cap if it makes it through :p

I’ll consider it. You’d prefer this over a R5 1.5u Super key?

Hangul add on kit bro

ohhh yeesss +1

No Hangul planned here folks, sorry. I do have another idea you might like...

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Re: [IC] GMK Red Alert - the classic returns 🔴🟤
« Reply #112 on: Thu, 13 August 2020, 00:59:32 »
Either or works fine. I mainly use one super key and one fn key, not sure about how others use their bottom row. Thanks for considering!

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Re: [IC] GMK Red Alert - the classic returns 🔴🟤
« Reply #113 on: Thu, 13 August 2020, 02:14:47 »
After working on a few artisan collabs, I'm excited to announce that

TRMK Caps
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Prime Caps
Fraktal Caps


will be collaborating with us on GMK Red Alert.
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« Reply #114 on: Mon, 17 August 2020, 01:40:35 »
Some exciting news: I designed this Salvador, and Alpha Keycaps will run it around GB time. :D


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« Reply #115 on: Mon, 17 August 2020, 01:44:35 »
Some exciting news: I designed this Salvador, and Alpha Keycaps will run it around GB time. :D

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« Reply #116 on: Mon, 17 August 2020, 01:51:50 »
Some exciting news: I designed this Salvador, and Alpha Keycaps will run it around GB time. :D

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Re: [IC] GMK Red Alert - the classic returns 🔴🟤
« Reply #117 on: Fri, 21 August 2020, 06:52:06 »
I guess maybe it’s generational. When I hear GMK red alert I immediately think Tesla coils and command and conquer. Or being yelled at by my mother when she found out I’ve been using it to do multiplayer with my next door neighbor for the last three hours and when she picks it up and yells into it our three hour game gets interrupted and we never would find out who wins. Neither of us liked to rush but it was just a matter of time before one of our parents realized we were blocking the phone line. You know back in the days of dial up and no cell phones. Napster. But this is a cool red alert too.

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Re: [IC] GMK Red Alert - the classic returns 🔴🟤
« Reply #118 on: Fri, 21 August 2020, 11:19:56 »
Of course it's generational. Whenever I hear "red alert", my mind notes that there's no swimming in the heavy water and no singing in the acid rain. ;D



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« Reply #119 on: Fri, 21 August 2020, 13:34:26 »
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Re: [IC] GMK Red Alert - the classic returns
« Reply #120 on: Fri, 21 August 2020, 15:55:58 »
Some thoughts on the updated kitting:
  • The OP promises 40s support in the base kit, but I don't see any? :D I guess you relegated it to the extension kit.
  • Perhaps you intended to use R2 Out, R3 Data for 40s support? But the keys currently in the kit are R3, R4; they need to be R2, R3 for this to work. The R3, R4 keys should be changed back to PgUp, PgDn.
  • Didn't this set use to have System instead of Super? Sad to see System go; it paired really well with AltGr. But Super is fine too, I guess.
  • Mod-colored isn't a must, imo.
  • R1 Other in the extension kit isn't a must either (unless this is some sort of icon novelty?).
  • Maybe it isn't necessary to have both accent and non-accent Cherry Enters.
  • The extension kit will need a R3 1.25u key for 40s support. Tab is the most common option.
  • I suggest adding the following R4 Shift keys to extension: 1u (ortho & 60% w/ arrows), 2u (60% w/ arrows), 2.25u (660 layouts).
    Alternatively, you could add 2.25u Shift to base instead, in which case it will have basic Alice support without needing to get extension, since the second B is also in base.
  • 1.75u space is an obscure size that's only used by two or three 40% boards (Vortex Core, JD40/45). You'd be better of replacing it with 2× 1u space, which are a must for ortho. 1u space is also useful for Alice boards.
  • Accent Break could be moved to extension.
  • Changing the second 1.5u Super/System key to Fn is an okay change to make.

Keep it up!

Edit: updated some suggestions
Edit2: more updates
« Last Edit: Fri, 21 August 2020, 16:22:01 by konstantin »

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Re: [IC] GMK Red Alert - the classic returns 🔴🟤
« Reply #121 on: Fri, 21 August 2020, 20:54:03 »
Just got a board that requires this. I’m in!


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« Reply #122 on: Fri, 21 August 2020, 23:40:41 »
Yes please! Count me in

Just got a board that requires this. I’m in!

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Thanks for joining me. :)

I guess maybe it’s generational. When I hear GMK red alert I immediately think Tesla coils and command and conquer. Or being yelled at by my mother when she found out I’ve been using it to do multiplayer with my next door neighbor for the last three hours and when she picks it up and yells into it our three hour game gets interrupted and we never would find out who wins. Neither of us liked to rush but it was just a matter of time before one of our parents realized we were blocking the phone line. You know back in the days of dial up and no cell phones. Napster. But this is a cool red alert too.

Red Alert is what you make of it.

Some thoughts on the updated kitting:
  • The OP promises 40s support in the base kit, but I don't see any? :D I guess you relegated it to the extension kit.
  • Perhaps you intended to use R2 Out, R3 Data for 40s support? But the keys currently in the kit are R3, R4; they need to be R2, R3 for this to work. The R3, R4 keys should be changed back to PgUp, PgDn.
  • Didn't this set use to have System instead of Super? Sad to see System go; it paired really well with AltGr. But Super is fine too, I guess.
  • Mod-colored isn't a must, imo.
  • R1 Other in the extension kit isn't a must either (unless this is some sort of icon novelty?).
  • Maybe it isn't necessary to have both accent and non-accent Cherry Enters.
  • The extension kit will need a R3 1.25u key for 40s support. Tab is the most common option.
  • I suggest adding the following R4 Shift keys to extension: 1u (ortho & 60% w/ arrows), 2u (60% w/ arrows), 2.25u (660 layouts).
    Alternatively, you could add 2.25u Shift to base instead, in which case it will have basic Alice support without needing to get extension, since the second B is also in base.
  • 1.75u space is an obscure size that's only used by two or three 40% boards (Vortex Core, JD40/45). You'd be better of replacing it with 2× 1u space, which are a must for ortho. 1u space is also useful for Alice boards.
  • Accent Break could be moved to extension.
  • Changing the second 1.5u Super/System key to Fn is an okay change to make.

Keep it up!

Edit: updated some suggestions
Edit2: more updates

Thanks for the thoughtful replies as always, konstantin. I have made a few kit changes but haven’t shared them here. Excuse the crappy renders, my rendering contact is extremely backed up.

Responses for you:

  • Correct, I moved 40s to Extension to instead support UK-ISO in base. I will update that.
  • I got Out and Data backwards! I’ll fix them in a future update.
  • Other was a surprise novelty I have dropped.
  • All Cherry enter accents have been dropped for now.
  • Will add your recommended Shifts, R3 and spacekeys. Will also drop 1.75u space.
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Re: [IC] GMK Red Alert - the classic returns 🔴🟤
« Reply #123 on: Fri, 21 August 2020, 23:48:03 »
What do you all think of a

Red Crimson Cyrillic Kit


??

I was inspired by a proposed artisan collaboration (more soon there!), and Tom/tvaro was gracious enough to approve my using the Cyrillic molds he will create for his GMK Cyrillic Beige add-on kit.
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Re: [IC] GMK Red Alert - the classic returns
« Reply #124 on: Sat, 22 August 2020, 02:45:56 »
What do you all think of a

Red Crimson Cyrillic Kit

Show Image

??

I was inspired by a proposed artisan collaboration (more soon there!), and Tom/tvaro was gracious enough to approve my using the Cyrillic molds he will create for his GMK Cyrillic Beige add-on kit.

Not sure how to put this, but...

YES

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« Reply #125 on: Sat, 22 August 2020, 02:52:42 »
 :cool: count me in

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« Reply #126 on: Sat, 22 August 2020, 12:42:30 »
What do you all think of a

Red Crimson Cyrillic Kit

Show Image

??

I was inspired by a proposed artisan collaboration (more soon there!), and Tom/tvaro was gracious enough to approve my using the Cyrillic molds he will create for his GMK Cyrillic Beige add-on kit.

Not sure how to put this, but...

YES


I was honestly most interested in your feedback on this. Happy to hear it. :)

:cool: count me in

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Re: [IC] GMK Red Alert - the classic returns 🔴🟤
« Reply #127 on: Sat, 22 August 2020, 13:26:41 »
Man this was the first set I wanted to get back in the day. I’ll have to cop for sure.

Re: [IC] GMK Red Alert - the classic returns 🔴🟤
« Reply #128 on: Sun, 23 August 2020, 11:42:50 »
This one is a must-buy for me. It hardly ever pops up on the aftermarket so I'm super happy. Love the colour change too.

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« Reply #129 on: Sun, 23 August 2020, 11:45:35 »
+1 for Cyrillic kit
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« Reply #130 on: Mon, 24 August 2020, 07:13:57 »
Yohan coming through yet again


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Re: [IC] GMK Red Alert - the classic returns 🔴🟤
« Reply #131 on: Mon, 24 August 2020, 08:12:34 »
having a red delete key in the og numbers kit would be cool for 65% users. im intereseted to see what novelties this set will have.

i love red sets.

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« Reply #132 on: Mon, 24 August 2020, 12:22:24 »
I really want a set of this. Classic.
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« Reply #133 on: Fri, 28 August 2020, 08:07:07 »
The Salvador I designed for GMK Red Alert, Yuri Salvador, will be available in tonight’s Alpha Keycaps raffle at 10:30pm ET. Here’s the full raffle menu: https://imgur.com/a/8ndsLIl

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« Reply #134 on: Sat, 29 August 2020, 06:23:59 »
Text icon mods + R5?? take my money bruh.
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« Reply #135 on: Sat, 29 August 2020, 18:44:57 »
What do you all think of a

Red Crimson Cyrillic Kit

Perfect! Exactly what I'm looking for. Cant wait for GB

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« Reply #136 on: Sat, 29 August 2020, 23:34:06 »
What do you all think of a

Red Crimson Cyrillic Kit

Perfect! Exactly what I'm looking for. Cant wait for GB

Text icon mods + R5?? take my money bruh.

Thank you both!! ♥️

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« Reply #137 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 04:42:10 »
yeee cyrilliccc

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« Reply #138 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 17:23:05 »
Text icon mods + R5?? take my money bruh.

Yeah this pretty much. Oh and it's beige and there's Cyrillic? Yup I'm DONE. Sign me up.

Hopefully we can get Daily Clack as Oceania vendor.

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« Reply #139 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 17:43:26 »
I will be on vacation starting Sunday for two weeks, and not around too often to answer Qs. RA continues moving along in the background. Hope you all are doing well and keeping safe!

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« Reply #140 on: Fri, 18 September 2020, 11:53:54 »
GMK apparently heard I was going on vacation, because they just sent over the first round of quotes. I will adjust the base kit by a couple of keys, but do not plan to remove UK-ISO. Planned changes:

  • Moving second B to Extension kit
  • Dropping F13 (it was duplicated, oops).
  • Deleting second numpad 5, only offering barred.

Does anyone want to see a 00 numpad key?

Aside from quotes, render work continues. We're at the final steps before announcing a bunch of news. :)

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« Reply #141 on: Fri, 18 September 2020, 11:55:07 »
GMK apparently heard I was going on vacation, because they just sent over the first round of quotes. I will adjust the base kit by a couple of keys, but do not plan to remove UK-ISO. Otherwise, render work continues. We're at the final steps before announcing a bunch of news. :)
Excited! Have a nice vacation too.


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« Reply #142 on: Fri, 18 September 2020, 12:01:56 »
GMK apparently heard I was going on vacation, because they just sent over the first round of quotes. I will adjust the base kit by a couple of keys, but do not plan to remove UK-ISO. Otherwise, render work continues. We're at the final steps before announcing a bunch of news. :)
Excited! Have a nice vacation too.


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Hey, thank you! Really looking forward to time off. Hope you're well and safe.