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Offline Scriba

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Waiting for samples!
« Reply #150 on: Mon, 30 November 2020, 01:56:09 »
I've never seen a CH layout (Switzerland) before and would be overwhelmed if there was one. But if not, I'm in for the DE (German) kit.

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Waiting for samples!
« Reply #151 on: Wed, 02 December 2020, 14:31:48 »
Not a deal breaker at all, but could it be possible to have Alt Gr keys?

i've thought about it yes but the issue is it will add too much keys in Base / Rainbow / Mono kits :/ sorry

A base version could find its place in the baguette kit a least ? It is so rare to see iso fr, i am pretty sure that we could be comfortable to pay a little extra and get a complete kit.

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Waiting for samples!
« Reply #152 on: Wed, 02 December 2020, 14:34:10 »
Not a deal breaker at all, but could it be possible to have Alt Gr keys?

i've thought about it yes but the issue is it will add too much keys in Base / Rainbow / Mono kits :/ sorry

A base version could find its place in the baguette kit a least ? It is so rare to see iso fr, i am pretty sure that we could be comfortable to pay a little extra and get a complete kit.

Keep in mind ePBT pricing for child kits is pretty low. That kit will likely be less than $15 on its own.

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Waiting for samples!
« Reply #153 on: Tue, 08 December 2020, 16:22:08 »
I looked at interest check for Whimsy 40% and thought that 1.5u R4 shift would be a nice addition to the be compact kit.

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Waiting for samples!
« Reply #154 on: Tue, 08 December 2020, 17:37:56 »
I looked at interest check for Whimsy 40% and thought that 1.5u R4 shift would be a nice addition to the be compact kit.

This is a pretty good idea. +1

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Waiting for samples!
« Reply #155 on: Wed, 09 December 2020, 00:48:01 »
Ehi man don't you think you forgot to add a layout?
Be the spaghetti?

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Waiting for samples!
« Reply #156 on: Wed, 09 December 2020, 02:07:52 »
Ehi man don't you think you forgot to add a layout?
Be the spaghetti?

you gelatto?

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« Reply #157 on: Wed, 09 December 2020, 15:50:24 »
Ehi man don't you think you forgot to add a layout?
Be the spaghetti?

you gelatto?

Also nice idea hahaha, btw it's gelato with one t.
Jokes aside can you consider adding Italian please?
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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Waiting for samples!
« Reply #158 on: Wed, 09 December 2020, 16:02:46 »
Why not. Is this the legit Italian keyboard layout?

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« Reply #159 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 04:45:27 »
Why not. Is this the legit Italian keyboard layout?
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Yess!! OMG thank you finally, really glad for this one.

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Waiting for samples!
« Reply #160 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 05:37:39 »
this kinda looks like GMK hallyu ??

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Waiting for samples!
« Reply #161 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 06:40:59 »
this kinda looks like GMK hallyu ??

Not even close, my dude :)

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« Reply #162 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 08:11:45 »
this kinda looks like GMK hallyu ??

Pantone 7545 C looks way different than hallyu. Legends are different aswell.

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Waiting for samples!
« Reply #163 on: Sat, 12 December 2020, 04:00:13 »
Not a deal breaker at all, but could it be possible to have Alt Gr keys?

i've thought about it yes but the issue is it will add too much keys in Base / Rainbow / Mono kits :/ sorry

A base version could find its place in the baguette kit a least ? It is so rare to see iso fr, i am pretty sure that we could be comfortable to pay a little extra and get a complete kit.

Keep in mind ePBT pricing for child kits is pretty low. That kit will likely be less than $15 on its own.

Alt Gr keys have been added in the kits. Will update renders soon.

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Waiting for samples!
« Reply #164 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 05:24:46 »
Little heads up on some minor fixes i was working on. Some legends in ePbt templates are off regarding the OG Cherry ones. I've fixed them without making a huge aesthetic change, because making them as similar as OG Cherry would break alignments of all the legends.
See:



Those are the ones (with alternatives keys in NORDE kit) which were problematic. I managed to get a Cherry DS QWERTZ to compare alignment and legends. If someone see something off feel free to let me know.

Regarding samples, those were supposed to be shipped this week. Still waiting  :-X

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Waiting for samples!
« Reply #165 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 06:08:43 »
ePBT legends will be right, on this set. Do you know if other upcoming sets would update their legends as well?

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« Reply #166 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 10:41:24 »
Little heads up on some minor fixes i was working on. Some legends in ePbt templates are off regarding the OG Cherry ones. I've fixed them without making a huge aesthetic change, because making them as similar as OG Cherry would break alignments of all the legends.
See:
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Those are the ones (with alternatives keys in NORDE kit) which were problematic. I managed to get a Cherry DS QWERTZ to compare alignment and legends. If someone see something off feel free to let me know.

Regarding samples, those were supposed to be shipped this week. Still waiting  :-X
Hey that's pretty sweet, GJ.

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« Reply #167 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 11:03:00 »
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That diaeresis is a tad too wide now. Try making the spacing somewhere in between the initial EPBT version and your current version.

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Waiting for samples!
« Reply #168 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 13:39:05 »
The diaeresis width is just right, it is even a bit narrower than the OG's.



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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Waiting for samples!
« Reply #169 on: Wed, 16 December 2020, 10:05:16 »
Dark/slate, love it. Solid color combo here.

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Waiting for samples!
« Reply #170 on: Wed, 16 December 2020, 20:52:12 »
Boo. Monokai ftw.

Just kidding. Love the aesthetics. GLWIC.

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« Reply #171 on: Tue, 22 December 2020, 03:12:14 »
Rebult Keyboards will be the proxy for South East Asia  :)

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Waiting for samples!
« Reply #172 on: Tue, 22 December 2020, 05:01:37 »
when is the GB?

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« Reply #173 on: Tue, 22 December 2020, 05:11:05 »
PBT BÉPO oh yes count me in !
The absolute dream would have been triple-shots since the bépo layout is very rich but this is already fantastic !

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« Reply #174 on: Wed, 30 December 2020, 22:16:23 »
Wouldn't it make sense to have the corresponding key for "~ `" in green in the other kits as well? "1/2 §" for the Sweden-Finland layout etc

And please 1U AltGr too :)

Otherwise I'm loving everything about this except the down arrow for caps lock  :thumb:


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« Reply #175 on: Wed, 30 December 2020, 22:48:20 »
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Otherwise I'm loving everything about this except the down arrow for caps lock  :thumb:

Noooo! Do not touch down arrow! It will ruin this entire set for me!
OK, this sounds like a joke - it isn't, current version of mods is exactly what I need and R3 1.75U DownArrow as a CAPS is critical for me (especially in "Be the rainbow" & "Be Mono")
@Zekth: please do not remove down arrow caps !
OK, I'm officially panicking right now.


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« Reply #176 on: Thu, 31 December 2020, 02:33:47 »
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Otherwise I'm loving everything about this except the down arrow for caps lock  :thumb:

Noooo! Do not touch down arrow! It will ruin this entire set for me!
OK, this sounds like a joke - it isn't, current version of mods is exactly what I need and R3 1.75U DownArrow as a CAPS is critical for me (especially in "Be the rainbow" & "Be Mono")
@Zekth: please do not remove down arrow caps !
OK, I'm officially panicking right now.

It's better than the purse but I'm a traditionalist and I'm used to having icons only on backspace, enter, tab and shift. Caps Lock, Control, Alt, Alt Gr - text.

But throw in a row 3 stepped Control or FN and I'd be even happier :)

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« Reply #177 on: Thu, 31 December 2020, 06:00:22 »
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Otherwise I'm loving everything about this except the down arrow for caps lock  :thumb:

Noooo! Do not touch down arrow! It will ruin this entire set for me!
OK, this sounds like a joke - it isn't, current version of mods is exactly what I need and R3 1.75U DownArrow as a CAPS is critical for me (especially in "Be the rainbow" & "Be Mono")
@Zekth: please do not remove down arrow caps !
OK, I'm officially panicking right now.

Don't worry this won't change age the old school purse design is really ugly to me.

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Waiting for samples!
« Reply #178 on: Thu, 31 December 2020, 06:35:56 »
I received some prototypes and those are pretty good. I don't have all the colors yet but it's really nice so far.




I was a bit worried about the purple on dark gray and it looks really nice to me. Next step is finishing the kitting, and waiting from ePbt inputs on possibility to have all colors as samples.

Currently the possible target of the GB is end of February, this has to be confirmed so don't take it for granted.

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - R1 Samples arrived
« Reply #179 on: Thu, 31 December 2020, 10:06:56 »
ooo that's like a grey blue!! lovely color
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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - R1 Samples arrived
« Reply #180 on: Thu, 31 December 2020, 14:31:40 »
Hei man what about the Italian set?

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - R1 Samples arrived
« Reply #181 on: Thu, 31 December 2020, 21:16:43 »
These samples look awesome, excited to see epbt get more into reverse dye sub.

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - R1 Samples arrived
« Reply #182 on: Fri, 01 January 2021, 01:24:56 »
Is it just me but that P sample looks nothing like pantone 7545c

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« Reply #183 on: Fri, 01 January 2021, 01:31:16 »
Is it just me but that P sample looks nothing like pantone 7545c
It's not just you, me too, but I like it anyway.


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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - R1 Samples arrived
« Reply #184 on: Fri, 01 January 2021, 11:16:45 »
Is it just me but that P sample looks nothing like pantone 7545c
It's not just you, me too, but I like it anyway.


I think the difference comes from the lighting, at least in part. It looks good though.

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - R1 Samples arrived
« Reply #185 on: Fri, 01 January 2021, 16:18:06 »
Is it just me but that P sample looks nothing like pantone 7545c
It's not just you, me too, but I like it anyway.


I think the difference comes from the lighting, at least in part. It looks good though.

Those ain't accurate right, i made those pics without taking care about the lighting as i wanted to show the quality of the printing not the accuracy of the colors.

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« Reply #186 on: Fri, 01 January 2021, 16:33:49 »
Those ain't accurate right, i made those pics without taking care about the lighting as i wanted to show the quality of the printing not the accuracy of the colors.
Quality seems OK, but "1" seems too close to the keycap edge (?), or at least seems closer to the edge than on GMK.


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« Reply #187 on: Fri, 01 January 2021, 17:40:43 »
Those ain't accurate right, i made those pics without taking care about the lighting as i wanted to show the quality of the printing not the accuracy of the colors.
Quality seems OK, but "1" seems too close to the keycap edge (?), or at least seems closer to the edge than on GMK.
I also noticed that; wondering if this is something that will be consistent with the rest of the number row, or isolated to that key. Otherwise they look crisp.

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« Reply #188 on: Fri, 01 January 2021, 19:59:47 »
nice set!!!

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« Reply #189 on: Fri, 01 January 2021, 23:43:05 »
Those ain't accurate right, i made those pics without taking care about the lighting as i wanted to show the quality of the printing not the accuracy of the colors.
Quality seems OK, but "1" seems too close to the keycap edge (?), or at least seems closer to the edge than on GMK.
I also noticed that; wondering if this is something that will be consistent with the rest of the number row, or isolated to that key. Otherwise they look crisp.

Both the ! And 1 are left aligned and spaced from the edge by the same amount. It can just look a little odd because the 1 is slightly wider. Take a closer look at your favorite GMK set and you'll notice the same thing. Unless its a set with sublegends, those legends are actually completely different from standard GMK legends.

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« Reply #190 on: Sat, 02 January 2021, 02:52:25 »
Those ain't accurate right, i made those pics without taking care about the lighting as i wanted to show the quality of the printing not the accuracy of the colors.
Quality seems OK, but "1" seems too close to the keycap edge (?), or at least seems closer to the edge than on GMK.
I also noticed that; wondering if this is something that will be consistent with the rest of the number row, or isolated to that key. Otherwise they look crisp.

Both the ! And 1 are left aligned and spaced from the edge by the same amount. It can just look a little odd because the 1 is slightly wider. Take a closer look at your favorite GMK set and you'll notice the same thing. Unless its a set with sublegends, those legends are actually completely different from standard GMK legends.
Here's a comparison with GMK Tokyo Nights, the two orange lines are the same length (difference in perspective causes the overal keycap to differ in size I suppose). ePBT 9009 shows similar results. Not very scientific but that's the best I could pull off.
« Last Edit: Sat, 02 January 2021, 02:55:30 by noorejji »

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - R1 Samples arrived
« Reply #191 on: Sat, 02 January 2021, 05:31:40 »
Those ain't accurate right, i made those pics without taking care about the lighting as i wanted to show the quality of the printing not the accuracy of the colors.
Quality seems OK, but "1" seems too close to the keycap edge (?), or at least seems closer to the edge than on GMK.
I also noticed that; wondering if this is something that will be consistent with the rest of the number row, or isolated to that key. Otherwise they look crisp.

Both the ! And 1 are left aligned and spaced from the edge by the same amount. It can just look a little odd because the 1 is slightly wider. Take a closer look at your favorite GMK set and you'll notice the same thing. Unless its a set with sublegends, those legends are actually completely different from standard GMK legends.
Here's a comparison with GMK Tokyo Nights, the two orange lines are the same length (difference in perspective causes the overal keycap to differ in size I suppose). ePBT 9009 shows similar results. Not very scientific but that's the best I could pull off.

Indeed, the samples i received were totally inconsistent in term of alignment and i'm working on it with ePbt, i already submitted a review on this. But i assume as those were protos for the colors and not the set itself the QC was not done properly.

Ive spent tremendous hours fixing those templates with nu_types and biip; so be sure im definitely keeping an eye on it.

See an example:

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - R1 Samples arrived
« Reply #192 on: Sat, 02 January 2021, 07:05:34 »
Indeed, the samples i received were totally inconsistent in term of alignment and i'm working on it with ePbt, i already submitted a review on this. But i assume as those were protos for the colors and not the set itself the QC was not done properly.

Ive spent tremendous hours fixing those templates with nu_types and biip; so be sure im definitely keeping an eye on it.
Maybe just centering everything is a way to go? I still would buy such an unorthodox set also with centered icon mods.


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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Kits update!
« Reply #193 on: Wed, 06 January 2021, 13:44:38 »
Hello everyone,
Here is a kit update with the fixed legends discussed with ideus and konstantin. Also added the ISO IT kit and the Cyrillic sub legends kit ( thanks to nu_types )
Also added the ALT GR keys in the INTL kits.
Added the Scooped annotations on the keys.

Still trying to target the GB for end of february, once i got confirmation i'll announce it.

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« Reply #194 on: Wed, 06 January 2021, 14:01:35 »
:take my money:

Be the Komrad
might be my fav Cyrillic set now!

Killing it mate!

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Kits update!
« Reply #195 on: Wed, 06 January 2021, 15:13:30 »
The set reflects care and commitment to good design practices. This may be well beyond most previous ePBT sets due to the quality of its legends. Just hoping for the manufacturer to deliver on it. The selection of the colors is also pretty cool.

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Kits update!
« Reply #196 on: Wed, 06 January 2021, 17:06:11 »
I believe there's a mistake in the current render of the base kit -- the third row up from the bottom is labelled R3, but that should be R4.

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« Reply #197 on: Wed, 06 January 2021, 17:57:14 »
I believe there's a mistake in the current render of the base kit -- the third row up from the bottom is labelled R3, but that should be R4.
And R1 with colored Delete & Esc should be R2 apparently.
« Last Edit: Sun, 10 January 2021, 13:04:14 by vstartse »

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Kits update!
« Reply #198 on: Wed, 06 January 2021, 17:59:21 »
Hello everyone,
Here is a kit update with the fixed legends discussed with ideus and konstantin. Also added the ISO IT kit and the Cyrillic sub legends kit ( thanks to nu_types )
Also added the ALT GR keys in the INTL kits.
Added the Scooped annotations on the keys.

Still trying to target the GB for end of february, once i got confirmation i'll announce it.
Np! Looking forward to the GB :).

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Re: [IC] ePbt - Be The One - Kits update!
« Reply #199 on: Thu, 07 January 2021, 00:19:53 »
Cyrillics !!! just take my money.
Is there a chance for R3:Tilde/Grave/Ё ? (optionally R4:Pipe/Backslash - but this one is already present in UK-ISO set)
Yes, I know, it is exotic key - but makes possible RUS-ISO on 60%65% while still keeping Tilde/Grave/Ё on top (not FN layer).