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[GB] Mechlovin' Rogue - UTD 360C Compatible PCBs & Plates
« on: Mon, 11 January 2021, 12:05:55 »
BACKGROUND

We had a fully-working prototype for the UTD months ago, but decided to shelve it because we weren't sure about releasing a product for a clone board, and at that time, QMK's stance was that they would not officially support the (original) UTD PCB. We then reached out to QMK about the possibility of supporting a compatible PCB (made by Mechlovin') and received a green light, which was very encouraging. However, it was always our intention to not make it available until we have a working OTD PCB as well.

And it was much more challenging than we originally thought. The OG OTD PCB has some peculiar dimensions and spacings, which took us 5 tries (meaning 5 prototypes) to get right (maybe it's difficult, or we're just not that good LOL). To be honest, we could have just released the UTD version of PCB and Plate, as one can actually put the whole UTD build onto an OTD 360C and it'd work perfectly, but it doesn't feel right. This stance was made clear a few months back, and we thank you for your patience and support.

We are splitting the GB for OTD & UTD compatible PCBs & Plates into 2 separate phases. UTD will get the first treatment, and OTD will follow after a few weeks. Why we'll be doing this:

- To avoid confusion: having both in one GB will result in too many options, which is likely to cause confusion among buyers. Separating them will also make it easier on our end logistically.

- To race against the clock: CNY is around the corner and it will certainly affect the progress (everything's off for 2-4 weeks in Vietnam and China). We were able to pin everything down regarding the UTD a long time ago, but ultimately decided to wait until we figured out the OTD as well. Now that we have done it, but still have some final decisions to make regarding the OTD, we feel now's the right time to set things in motion in phases, which does allow us to move faster.

WHAT’S AVAILABLE FOR THIS BUY

Mechlovin' Rogue PCB and Plates (FR4 and Polycarbonate) - compatible with UTD 360C keyboard.

These PCB and Plate are cross-compatible with UTD’s bundled stuff, which means you can pair Rogue PCB with UTD plate, and the Rogue Plate with UTD PCB.

GENERAL GB INFORMATION


CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE GROUP BUY
: https://forms.gle/d2LqMF6r6GRdKzKQ9

PROTOTYPE PHOTO ALBUM
: https://imgur.com/a/EISvPEu


Fit Test: UTD Original Plate & Rogue Proto PCB (Final PCB product is in matte black)


Fit Test: Proto Rogue Plate (FR4 and PC available for GB) and UTD Original PCB

• Price ((excluding international shipping from Vietnam, calculated based on buyer’s location)

$52 (USD) per 1.6mm PCB

$55 per 1.2mm PCB (with 0.4mm stabilizer spacers included)

$29 (USD) per FR4 Plate

$39 per Polycarbonate Plate

• MOQ: None.

• Group buy form opens on Monday, January 11th at 23:00 (GMT+7) for TEN DAYS.

• Invoices will be sent out ASAP after form submission. Payment deadline is 48 hours after the invoice is issued.

PCB & PLATE SPECS

• PCB is programmable via QMK and VIA

• PCB thickness: 1.6mm and 1.2mm (with 0.4mm spacers included)

• Powered by STM32F303 MCU. Supported layout

• No underglow RGB

• ESD protection

• PCB color: Matte Black solder mask with immersion gold coated pads.

• FR4 Plate specs: 1.6mm with gold bezel coating.

• Polycarbonate Plate specs: 1.5mm CNC’d and sandblasted.

LEAD TIME AND SHIPPING

The expected production time is 6-8 weeks, and with CNY taken into consideration, we’re looking to start shipping at the end of March/ early April.

Shipping during the pandemic is generally still unpredictable. The (very) good news is we have been able to work with our EU and US proxy to further reduce the base shipping rate, so it's now $19 instead of $25 like with previous GBs (please note that this is the base rate and ordering more items will result in higher shipping fees).

DHL(3-5 day delivery) has announced a new and increased fee scheme (they normally increase their shipping rates by around 5% each year), but we’re honouring the rates offered in last year GBs, at least for now. Though we’re still offering standard shipping (using national post) for non-US and non-EU destinations, we highly recommend choosing the DHL option for much faster and safer shipping.

OTHER NOTES

Our product pricing has been adjusted to reflect the hikes in costs of production and components, especially with MCU prices skyrocketing in the last few months. The increase in the final product pricing is not significant by any means, but we would like to be transparent and hope to have your understanding.

The Rogue PCB does not have a USB connector as per the original design, so you will need to solder your cable onto the PCB. There will be labels on the soldering positions to make the job easy.

While we do send important GB updates via emails, the best way to stay updated and connected is to join our Discord server, and maybe follow us on Instagram if you're interested in our work.

MECHLOVIN' DISCORD: https://discord.com/invite/jqVbMpM

INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/mechlovin.studio/

Thank you and have a good one!
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Re: [GB] Mechlovin' Rogue - UTD 360C Compatible PCBs & Plates
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 13 January 2021, 08:10:36 »
Approved, would have snagged one if I still had my 360c!
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Re: [GB] Mechlovin' Rogue - UTD 360C Compatible PCBs & Plates
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 13 January 2021, 19:49:01 »
Approved, would have snagged one if I still had my 360c!

Thank you!!
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Re: [GB] Mechlovin' Rogue - UTD 360C Compatible PCBs & Plates
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 14 January 2021, 13:11:48 »
Just want to confirm the plate/pcb are compatible with OG 360C as well
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Re: [GB] Mechlovin' Rogue - UTD 360C Compatible PCBs & Plates
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 14 January 2021, 21:11:13 »
Just want to confirm the plate/pcb are compatible with OG 360C as well

The whole UTD build (PCB & Plate) will fit into the OG 360C, but cross compatibility is not possible, which means you can CAN'T use UTD plate with OTD PCB or UTD PCB with OTD plate. That's why we're running the OTD compatible PCB & Plate GB later and separately from this one to avoid confusion.
« Last Edit: Fri, 15 January 2021, 21:32:19 by flying1911 »
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Re: [GB] Mechlovin' Rogue - UTD 360C Compatible PCBs & Plates
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 15 January 2021, 05:55:38 »
Just want to confirm the plate/pcb are compatible with OG 360C as well

The whole UTD build (PCB & Plate) will fit into the OG 360C, but cross compatibility is not possible, which means you can use UTD plate with OTD PCB or UTD PCB with OTD plate. That's why we're running the OTD compatible PCB & Plate GB later and separately from this one to avoid confusion.

“which means you can can’t use”

typo in your post I think? Just trying to make sure compat is clear :)
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Re: [GB] Mechlovin' Rogue - UTD 360C Compatible PCBs & Plates
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 15 January 2021, 11:14:14 »
Just want to confirm the plate/pcb are compatible with OG 360C as well

The whole UTD build (PCB & Plate) will fit into the OG 360C, but cross compatibility is not possible, which means you can use UTD plate with OTD PCB or UTD PCB with OTD plate. That's why we're running the OTD compatible PCB & Plate GB later and separately from this one to avoid confusion.

Assuming "can" is a typo for "can't". That exactly works for me. As long as I can buy a PCB/Plate combo and drop it into the OG 360C, that will work great.

Also looking forward to the next GB... a modern PCB that could fit into the OG plate would be amazing.
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Re: [GB] Mechlovin' Rogue - UTD 360C Compatible PCBs & Plates
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 15 January 2021, 21:33:10 »
Just want to confirm the plate/pcb are compatible with OG 360C as well

The whole UTD build (PCB & Plate) will fit into the OG 360C, but cross compatibility is not possible, which means you can use UTD plate with OTD PCB or UTD PCB with OTD plate. That's why we're running the OTD compatible PCB & Plate GB later and separately from this one to avoid confusion.

“which means you can can’t use”

typo in your post I think? Just trying to make sure compat is clear :)

Fatal typo :((( Thank you for pointing that out!
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Re: [GB] Mechlovin' Rogue - UTD 360C Compatible PCBs & Plates
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 07:47:28 »
woo nice. just submitted for a UTD pcb + FR4 plate set for my OTD 360c, and i'll be joining for the OTD GB as well.

what color will the FR4 plates be? any chance of getting them in red for either this or the OTD GB?

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Re: [GB] Mechlovin' Rogue - UTD 360C Compatible PCBs & Plates
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 18 January 2021, 17:48:29 »
Bought two, can't wait!

PS. Does anyone know where to buy extra cables for these PCB's? (to be able to quickly swap out plate/pcb combinations without having to desolder/solder a new cable)

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Re: [GB] Mechlovin' Rogue - UTD 360C Compatible PCBs & Plates
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 18 January 2021, 22:14:19 »
woo nice. just submitted for a UTD pcb + FR4 plate set for my OTD 360c, and i'll be joining for the OTD GB as well.

what color will the FR4 plates be? any chance of getting them in red for either this or the OTD GB?

The FR4 Plate for this GB will be in matte black. We're considering the red colour for the OTD GB  ;D
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Re: [GB] Mechlovin' Rogue - UTD 360C Compatible PCBs & Plates
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 18 January 2021, 22:16:17 »
Bought two, can't wait!

PS. Does anyone know where to buy extra cables for these PCB's? (to be able to quickly swap out plate/pcb combinations without having to desolder/solder a new cable)

Thank you for joining the GB! This is the purchase link for the cable similar to the kit-bundled one (you will need to use a Taobao proxy for this): https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=623517824751
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Re: [GB] Mechlovin' Rogue - UTD 360C Compatible PCBs & Plates
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 20 January 2021, 11:29:23 »
Last Day Update: the GB will be closed in less than 24 hours. Production of all GB items are already underway, and while there will be quite a big hold up due to CNY, hopefully things will pick up strongly post-festival thanks to the head start. We opted to be quite conservative in terms of production numbers as smaller batches means reduced manufacturing time, so there will not be many extras. We're optimistic, but cautious about running ahead of schedule.
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