Author Topic: Posting on Geekhack: How much RAM and CPU does it take? (Read 19077 times)

microsoft windows · « **on:** Fri, 20 August 2010, 18:30:42 »

As of now, I am using my Gateway2000 with Windows NT 4.0 and Internet Explorer 6.

RAM usage: 42mb
CPU clock: 200 Mhz
CPU usage: Average: 12%

What's your system taking up when you're posting here? Is there anything running in the background? What browser and operating system are you using? I'm interested.

microsoft windows · « **Reply #1 on:** Fri, 20 August 2010, 19:05:30 »

I just went into Task Manager and looked at the RAM usage and averaged out the CPU usage readings.

Here's a screen shot if it helps.

Phaedrus2129 · « **Reply #2 on:** Fri, 20 August 2010, 19:12:46 »

Q9550 running Vista
1% 2.49GB
(I've got other stuff running... Steam, Pidgin, MSE, SuperAntiSpyware, Logitech Setpoint, MagicISO, AutoHotKey)

Athlon XP 2600+ running Ubuntu 10.04
8% 420MB

Phaedrus2129 · « **Reply #3 on:** Fri, 20 August 2010, 19:18:31 »

Quote from: ripster;215167

0% sounds better. Mine must be faster.

CPU COCK FIGHT.

LinX says 45GFLOPS biatch.

microsoft windows · « **Reply #4 on:** Fri, 20 August 2010, 19:25:04 »

Your CPU's could beat the crap out of my Pentium.

Superfluous Parentheses · « **Reply #5 on:** Fri, 20 August 2010, 20:01:15 »

If your OS doesn't isn't using pretty much all RAM while running, you're relying on disk operations way too much. RAM is there anyway, use it for disc caching and **** like that.

For instance, of my 2 Gb of RAM, ~ 1.5 Gb is disk cache at the moment and ~ 50 Mb is free (that is, totally unused).

cat /proc/meminfo:
MemTotal: 2056880 kB
MemFree: 56416 kB
Buffers: 13972 kB
Cached: 1456992 kB
SwapCached: 2120 kB
Active: 981496 kB
Inactive: 938716 kB
Active(anon): 246104 kB
Inactive(anon): 205496 kB
Active(file): 735392 kB
Inactive(file): 733220 kB
Unevictable: 0 kB
Mlocked: 0 kB
HighTotal: 1173748 kB
HighFree: 2976 kB
LowTotal: 883132 kB
LowFree: 53440 kB
SwapTotal: 9775544 kB
SwapFree: 9764128 kB
Dirty: 24368 kB
Writeback: 0 kB
AnonPages: 447380 kB
Mapped: 44260 kB
Shmem: 2352 kB
Slab: 43636 kB
SReclaimable: 33960 kB
SUnreclaim: 9676 kB
KernelStack: 1896 kB
PageTables: 3024 kB
NFS_Unstable: 0 kB
Bounce: 0 kB
WritebackTmp: 0 kB
CommitLimit: 10803984 kB
Committed_AS: 871096 kB
VmallocTotal: 122880 kB
VmallocUsed: 61544 kB
VmallocChunk: 25140 kB
HugePages_Total: 0
HugePages_Free: 0
HugePages_Rsvd: 0
HugePages_Surp: 0
Hugepagesize: 4096 kB
DirectMap4k: 12280 kB
DirectMap4M: 892928 kB

See http://unixfoo.blogspot.com/2008/02/know-about-procmeminfo.html

iMav · « **Reply #6 on:** Fri, 20 August 2010, 20:16:32 »

Posting this with my mid-2009, 13.3" MacBook Pro. 2.26Ghz Core2Duo, 8GB RAM, 500GB hdd (7200rpm).

Resource usage while posting doesn't seem all that interesting. How about a geekbench score?

Here's mine while posting to geekhack.

Here's mine with nothing else running. (I wonder if my i7 laptop can top it?)

Phaedrus2129 · « **Reply #7 on:** Fri, 20 August 2010, 20:22:31 »

Not particularly comprehensive. No GPU benchmark for instance. And I prefer LinPack based programs for CPU benching. But ok.
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/280957
5934

EverythingIBM · « **Reply #8 on:** Fri, 20 August 2010, 20:25:05 »

I'm running on my 300GL at 666 Mhz. Satan inside!
Using around 200 MB of RAM, paging 150. Firefox.

Superfluous Parentheses · « **Reply #9 on:** Fri, 20 August 2010, 20:29:56 »

By the way, my Android phone shows about 30 Mb out of ~ 260 Mb used for programs (not cache etc) while browsing this site.

iMav · « **Reply #10 on:** Fri, 20 August 2010, 20:32:04 »

i7 laptop scores a 5219:
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/280961

Not bad.

Oqsy · « **Reply #11 on:** Fri, 20 August 2010, 22:02:41 »

mah iphone load it are fastr wif mah appz and such az!

D-EJ915 · « **Reply #12 on:** Fri, 20 August 2010, 23:39:49 »

2.2ghz http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view?id=281012
1ghz http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view?id=281014

apparently AMD is the way to go if you want to sharpen images it blew the pants off of ripsters intel lol

British · « **Reply #13 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 11:41:36 »

This site is weird...
7099 - http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/282732

That's with Foobar2k playing in the back and Firefox 3.6.8 with 191 tabs (though only a dozen loaded, gotta love BarTab).
Oh and of course I'm not gonna pay for this, so it doesn't take into account my 64bit-ness (I guess there's a whole lot of us).
Bleh.

microsoft windows · « **Reply #14 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 12:21:23 »

Quote from: D-EJ915;215231

2.2ghz http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view?id=281012
1ghz http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view?id=281014

apparently AMD is the way to go if you want to sharpen images it blew the pants off of ripsters intel lol

Well, for Internet browsing, anything over 100Mhz is enough.

EverythingIBM · « **Reply #15 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 12:25:06 »

Quote from: ripster;216471

Damn, I knew my aging rig would be beaten soon. I'm still waiting to go 8 core before upgrading my lowly 3.6Ghz Q6700 - AVCHD video editing would be the only real app that needs it though.

And I refuse to go water cooled. Those OCN people are weirder than the Vintage Computing guys.

8 Cores won't do anything for you rippy, consumer software isn't programmed to handle it.

Phaedrus2129 · « **Reply #16 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 12:26:20 »

Quote from: microsoft windows;216483

Well, for Internet browsing, anything over 100Mhz is enough.

Yes, but I find you need at least 1600MHz to watch 360p video smoothly, and 2200MHz helps if it's 480p.

EverythingIBM · « **Reply #17 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 12:30:41 »

Quote from: ripster;216489

I worship at the altar of Adobe.

So you must be a freemason then?

EDIT:

Quote from: ripster;216489

Unlike IBM they still support the PC business.

You can still buy a System X tower from IBM and deck it out as a PC. You can get a fairly decent one for $2000.

EverythingIBM · « **Reply #18 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 12:39:57 »

Quote from: ripster;216494

Probably slower than my current PC. I'll wait.

Considering they can hold two CPUs, I'd vouch they're faster for processing. Two processors are better than one. Especially two quad core processors.

ch_123 · « **Reply #19 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 12:51:16 »

Depends on what software you are running.

Knowing IBM, $2,000 probably buys you a low end model with a single CPU...

keyboardlover · « **Reply #20 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 13:37:33 »

Quote from: ripster;216489

I worship at the altar of Adobe.

Unlike IBM they still support the PC business.

Try getting support from them when u try to integrate their software with yours...had a lot of headaches with that in the past...

Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk

zmurf · « **Reply #21 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 14:56:49 »

Workbench 1.3
Fully multitasking OS on:
7.14MHz CPU
512kB RAM

WIN!

microsoft windows · « **Reply #22 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 15:03:03 »

Were you posting on the forum on that machine?

EverythingIBM · « **Reply #23 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 16:26:58 »

Quote from: ch_123;216506

Depends on what software you are running.

Knowing IBM, $2,000 probably buys you a low end model with a single CPU...

Hey how did you guess? =p
Well my theory was buy the lowest model, chuck out the single processor IBM puts in, and put two high end ones in yourself for cheap. You'd have to buy a heatsink of course. Probably will be more than the processor lol.

It comes with 2 GB of RAM, so, you'd only need two more for something decent.

So that's a way to get IBM quality, for half the price... if you don't want to buy used.

microsoft windows · « **Reply #24 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 16:48:17 »

I'd just rather not buy it but find it in the computer garbage at work.

chimera15 · « **Reply #25 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 17:07:31 »

Cool benchmarking site. See this is why I need an i7, my systems are all around 2500. Sucks. sigh

ch_123 · « **Reply #26 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 17:10:57 »

Quote from: EverythingIBM;216632

Hey how did you guess? =p
Well my theory was buy the lowest model, chuck out the single processor IBM puts in, and put two high end ones in yourself for cheap. You'd have to buy a heatsink of course. Probably will be more than the processor lol.

It comes with 2 GB of RAM, so, you'd only need two more for something decent.

So that's a way to get IBM quality, for half the price... if you don't want to buy used.

A machine that is intended for single CPU configurations only will only have a single socket motherboard. IBM being IBM, you can bet that the case is designed in such a way that a twin socket motherboard cannot be inserted. The thing may well not have any PCI-E 16x slots for a graphics card. Some models may not even have any sort of graphics capability at all.

The things that make IBM servers high quality compared with other brands are irrelevant if you are using it as a desktop PC.

chimera15 · « **Reply #27 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 17:30:41 »

My highest result was with my gateway 141xl, which has a t8300 in it for about 2600. I have 3 desktops with c2d's at the same frequency of 2.4 and all got less. My most powerful relative system with the best memory and running a gtx 260 got the worst result of the 4 units of the same generation. How is that? I guess cause it's running windows 7 and the others are xp... hmm

Pretty interesting. Here's the same configuration as my my p5n-e sli mobo with the same processor that's been oc'd.

http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/205646

Mine is about 2300 right now, my lowest score. Suppose I should oc it....

chimera15 · « **Reply #28 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 19:36:29 »

Posting this on my oqo 1+. This is the lowest power unit I currently have in regular operation. Anything lower than this I have mothballed.

http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/282878

This is the unit I built my wireless minitouch for. Really love using it occasionally, and my ultimate goal was to build a wearable pc with it, but it really gets too hot to do that unfortunately.

It's got 512mb and 1000 mhz transmeta crusoe processor, so relatively still pretty powerful.

It's great for doing thumbnail sketches on since it has a wacom penabled tablet in it.

It's still I believe the smallest, and most powerful full Windows pc ever made since the oqo 2 was a significant size increase.

chimera15 · « **Reply #29 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 19:46:38 »

Pretty interesting:

http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/search?q=oqo

My oqo 1+ bench's roughly the same as the via oqo 2 processor. Woulda never thought that.

I love how the benchmark called it a oqo zepto. I've never seen these units called Zepto anywhere before. Wonder where it came from. Reminds me of the fallout 3 pip boy kinda. lol

Interesting:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/19/zepto-computers-files-for-bankruptcy/

They used the same font that the oqo used. I wonder if they actually manufactured the mobos for the oqo.

D-EJ915 · « **Reply #30 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 21:48:05 »

my Sony U3 with a 933MHz Transmeta Crusoe processor http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/282929

Phaedrus2129 · « **Reply #31 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 22:09:59 »

Quote from: ch_123;216662

A machine that is intended for single CPU configurations only will only have a single socket motherboard. IBM being IBM, you can bet that the case is designed in such a way that a twin socket motherboard cannot be inserted. The thing may well not have any PCI-E 16x slots for a graphics card. Some models may not even have any sort of graphics capability at all.

The things that make IBM servers high quality compared with other brands are irrelevant if you are using it as a desktop PC.

Like the fact that if a CPU core fails a redundant CPU core activates in its place and shoots off an email to IBM customer service so they can come over and replace it.

ch_123 · « **Reply #32 on:** Wed, 25 August 2010, 22:19:34 »

Hah, not on their x86 machines...

Stuff like hot-swappable fans and fancy administration/diagnostics are as good as it gets on x86. Fancier stuff is reserved for POWER and Z10 mainframes.

EverythingIBM · « **Reply #33 on:** Thu, 26 August 2010, 00:12:39 »

Quote from: ch_123;216662

A machine that is intended for single CPU configurations only will only have a single socket motherboard. IBM being IBM, you can bet that the case is designed in such a way that a twin socket motherboard cannot be inserted. The thing may well not have any PCI-E 16x slots for a graphics card. Some models may not even have any sort of graphics capability at all.

The things that make IBM servers high quality compared with other brands are irrelevant if you are using it as a desktop PC.

They do have slots for two CPUs (go look at some PDFs), and they do have graphics capability, although yes, probably not x16.

zmurf · « **Reply #34 on:** Thu, 26 August 2010, 00:54:51 »

Quote from: microsoft windows;216573

Were you posting on the forum on that machine?

YES!

....

no...

(But it should work... I'll just have to find the hammers and the nails first.)

Update:
I'm quite certain that it will be possible from my Amiga600. WB2.05, 7.14MHz mc68000 and 2MB RAM.
I used to be able to get online with that computer and download stuff from Aminet with a Lynx clone browser. I'll just have to get it out from the basement and then I can test if it's possible.

instantkamera · « **Reply #35 on:** Thu, 26 August 2010, 06:36:04 »

Quote from: chimera15;216673

My highest result was with my gateway 141xl, which has a t8300 in it for about 2600. I have 3 desktops with c2d's at the same frequency of 2.4 and all got less. My most powerful relative system with the best memory and running a gtx 260 got the worst result of the 4 units of the same generation. How is that? I guess cause it's running windows 7 and the others are xp... hmm

Pretty interesting. Here's the same configuration as my my p5n-e sli mobo with the same processor that's been oc'd.

http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/205646

Mine is about 2300 right now, my lowest score. Suppose I should oc it....

Running this on a heavily loaded (4GB and I'm swapping for Christ's sake) linux work machine (currently ubarftu):

Quote

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6550 @ 2.33GHz
Processor ID: GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11

Plain ol' sata drive and a Quadro NVS 290. I don't really think that matters though, this bench is mostly CPU and memory(bandwidth - amount doesnt really matter).

Quote

Overall Geekbench Score: 3351 |||||||||||||

edit:

after scoping out the linked OC'd machine, I see the issue:

his mem/stream numbers:

Quote

Memory Memory performance 1981
Stream Memory bandwidth performance 1244

mine:

Quote

Memory Score: 3482 |||||||||||||
Stream Score: 2300 |||||||||

how did that happen? We, it seems linux has a better implementation of C, for one:

his:

Quote

Read Sequential
single-threaded scalar   4466

Write Sequential
single-threaded scalar   2687

Stdlib Allocate
single-threaded scalar   1093

Stdlib Write
single-threaded scalar   738

Stdlib Copy
single-threaded scalar   924

mine:

Quote

Memory
Read Sequential
single-threaded scalar 3739 ||||||||||||||
Write Sequential
single-threaded scalar 3572 ||||||||||||||
Stdlib Allocate
single-threaded scalar 2024 ||||||||
Stdlib Write
single-threaded scalar 2726 ||||||||||
Stdlib Copy
single-threaded scalar 5349 |||||||||||||||||||||

well then ...

chimera15 · « **Reply #36 on:** Thu, 26 August 2010, 06:47:23 »

Quote from: D-EJ915;216731

my Sony U3 with a 933MHz Transmeta Crusoe processor http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/282929

It's interesting that your sony uses the same processor as the oqo and the Compaq tc1000, but seems to be underclocked by about 75 mhz or so.

ricercar · « **Reply #37 on:** Thu, 26 August 2010, 13:54:02 »

85 MHz - NEC RISC VR4111 processor
16 MB RAM

Fujitsu Teampad 7500. I can surf the web without Flash for $475 less than your iPad.

EverythingIBM · « **Reply #38 on:** Thu, 26 August 2010, 14:20:53 »

Quote from: zmurf;216770

YES!

....

no...

(But it should work... I'll just have to find the hammers and the nails first.)

Update:
I'm quite certain that it will be possible from my Amiga600. WB2.05, 7.14MHz mc68000 and 2MB RAM.
I used to be able to get online with that computer and download stuff from Aminet with a Lynx clone browser. I'll just have to get it out from the basement and then I can test if it's possible.

MrA500 uses his Amiga 500 to do geekhack posts.

chimera15 · « **Reply #39 on:** Thu, 26 August 2010, 14:41:18 »

Lot of people on that site have benched their ipads and iphones:

http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/search?q=iphone&commit=Search

It's interesting that the newer ones have about the same processing power as my oqo. I wonder what it would take to get windows running on them.

lol http://gizmodo.com/5523905/masochist-runs-windows-xp-on-an-ipad

EverythingIBM · « **Reply #40 on:** Thu, 26 August 2010, 14:45:49 »

Quote from: chimera15;216984

Lot of people on that site have benched their ipads and iphones:

http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/search?q=iphone&commit=Search

It's interesting that the newer ones have about the same processing power as my oqo. I wonder what it would take to get windows running on them.

chimera15 · « **Reply #41 on:** Thu, 26 August 2010, 14:56:35 »

Yeah, 95 wouldn't run the painting apps I want to run though...

mr_a500 · « **Reply #42 on:** Thu, 26 August 2010, 18:10:32 »

Quote from: EverythingIBM;216975

MrA500 uses his Amiga 500 to do geekhack posts.

Oh good... a chance for me to show off. Yes, this post was done with an Amiga 500.

I think I'm using around 6Mb, but I could easily get that under 4Mb by using a lower screenmode.

chimera15 · « **Reply #43 on:** Thu, 26 August 2010, 18:29:25 »

Quote from: mr_a500;217045

Oh good... a chance for me to show off. Yes, this post was done with an Amiga 500.

I think I'm using around 6Mb, but I could easily get that under 4Mb by using a lower screenmode.

Wow, how do you access the web?

EverythingIBM · « **Reply #44 on:** Thu, 26 August 2010, 18:39:50 »

Quote from: chimera15;217056

Wow, how do you access the web?

He uses linux (for youtube) or BeOS for some things: on the great intellistation.

But you really don't need much power for typical internet tasks.

For a long time I used my 300PL even though it was "outdated" even back then (mainly because my dad wouldn't get me a new computer), and that thing has 200 Mhz! I probably only had 64 mb of RAM (now I got the lovely 384), but a lot of things are still doable on old computers -- as long as the software is compatible.

Text writing, most internet stuff, music, pixel art, games, and all of that fun stuff can be done old old computers. It's probably a smarter idea as they suck less power.

Although I do need computational power for an audio rig (and 4 GB of RAM lol).

mr_a500 · « **Reply #45 on:** Thu, 26 August 2010, 19:52:40 »

Quote from: chimera15;217056

Wow, how do you access the web?

With the Amiga 500, I use a 56K modem, MiamiDX TCP/IP and IBrowse web browser. Unfortunately, A500 Ethernet adapters are rare and expensive. On the Amiga 3000 I'm using for this post, I use a USB Ethernet adapter (only 99¢!), connected to high speed internet cable modem.

The Amiga 3000 is 16Mhz.

typo · « **Reply #46 on:** Thu, 26 August 2010, 19:53:57 »

the original pentium 133mhz could run win95 and use the internet. well, probably not with the content that is on most sites now. of course the internet was designed for 33.6kbps back then.

ch_123 · « **Reply #47 on:** Thu, 26 August 2010, 19:55:51 »

Could you use the modem to dial into a modem on a system with ethernet, and use the latter as a server for the former?

D-EJ915 · « **Reply #48 on:** Thu, 26 August 2010, 20:14:14 »

Quote from: chimera15;216816

It's interesting that your sony uses the same processor as the oqo and the Compaq tc1000, but seems to be underclocked by about 75 mhz or so.

The U3 is a much earlier machine, the U1 which is the earlier model was 867MHz both in 2002.

bhtooefr · « **Reply #49 on:** Thu, 26 August 2010, 20:17:24 »

17.7 MHz IBM 7490 (S/390 processor,) using 8876 kiB storage.

Edit: And... I didn't know how to work with multiline text fields in this browser.

Hardware has 128 MiB RAM available, and uses a Pentium 90 with 32 MiB RAM and OS/2 as an I/O processor.

Software on the mainframe side is VM/ESA V2 R4.0 and Charlotte V2.1 as the web browser.

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Author Topic: Posting on Geekhack: How much RAM and CPU does it take? (Read 19077 times)