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Offline instantkamera

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« Reply #150 on: Thu, 28 October 2010, 17:13:25 »
Quote from: ripster;239958
Future of Gaming is..... low quality crap.

Sayeth Crysis

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I suspected as such.  Boy, was THAT pc game ever a disappointment.  That  WAS the beginning of the end of the PC business.

However Blizzard disagrees (WHAT A SURPRISE!!!)

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MEANWHILE IN AMERICA....
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Free SW kills (don't click if easily disturbed).


HOLY

****ING

****

I am absolutely terrified by the world we live in.
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Offline instantkamera

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« Reply #151 on: Thu, 28 October 2010, 17:41:46 »
it's not really news to me, Im just saying. The world is a whole bunch of wtf.
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Offline chimera15

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« Reply #152 on: Thu, 28 October 2010, 18:13:51 »
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On a lighter note:  IceT's tweet review of Fallout: Las Vegas.


Sounds like IceT needs a new computer.
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Offline chimera15

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« Reply #153 on: Thu, 28 October 2010, 18:16:43 »
Quote from: instantkamera;239960
HOLY

****ING

****

I am absolutely terrified by the world we live in.


This happened a few years ago.

http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/208369/boy-kills-mother-shoots-father-after-taking-away-halo-3/

No big deal.  Don't take away or interrupt people playing games.
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Offline chimera15

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« Reply #154 on: Thu, 28 October 2010, 18:21:25 »
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I hear Chimera15 steals Girl Scout cookies from the table when they are not looking.

I get my girl scout cookies from China.

http://taxdollars.ocregister.com/2010/01/25/girl-scouts-get-squeezed-cookies-are-no-savior/49693/
« Last Edit: Thu, 28 October 2010, 18:29:36 by chimera15 »
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Offline chimera15

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« Reply #155 on: Thu, 28 October 2010, 18:35:47 »
Quote from: ripster;239958
Future of Gaming is..... low quality crap.

Sayeth Crysis

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I suspected as such.  Boy, was THAT pc game ever a disappointment.  That  WAS the beginning of the end of the PC business.

However Blizzard disagrees (WHAT A SURPRISE!!!)

BEST quote in thread...



MEANWHILE IN AMERICA....
Show Image


Free SW kills (don't click if easily disturbed).


You didn't get the point of the article.  He was saying that free 2 play is the future of pc gaming, and that the quality will increase and come up to the level of stand alones, as the market shifts.

You look at War Rock and where it started, and where it is now, as well as the new MKZ, also on gamersfirst free 2 play network, and you'll start to get a clue maybe.  War Rock is a really good example.  It started in 2006, and has continuously upgraded per seasons as technology has improved, and it has the cashflow to do so.  That's something not possible in a stand alone game.  War Rock keeps you continuously coming back with special events and upgrades.  They just launched their own server network as well.


http://www.gamersfirst.com/mkz/

« Last Edit: Thu, 28 October 2010, 18:46:38 by chimera15 »
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Offline chimera15

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« Reply #156 on: Thu, 28 October 2010, 18:50:44 »
Quote from: ripster;239986
Nope, the future is Farmville.

Excuse me, I have to go shake a baby.

Probably farmville will be 3d eventually. lol  

Another great thing about free 2 play games like War Rock is that it never gets completely boring, and you never reach an end to the game like with Fallout, I was done with it in 4 days.  I don't feel like playing it again until something new happens which may not be for months or never.  That's not worth $50 to me.

Warrock if I choose to drop $50 on, I'd have special guns, enhancers, and weapons for at least a month, longer if I spread the $50 out that I know I could use to enhance my character that will be there likely years in the future.
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« Reply #157 on: Thu, 28 October 2010, 21:44:24 »
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Excuse me, I have to go punch a baby koala.
Apparently, it makes them cry - and their tears taste like caramel, only better. But I've read an article about scientists analyzing their tears, so perhaps this will soon become available as a synthetic flavor.

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« Reply #158 on: Thu, 28 October 2010, 21:46:36 »
Quote from: ripster;239958
Free SW kills
I'm glad that the American legal system takes the deaths of infants seriously. Of course, though, she is not really a danger to the general public, and, if rehabilitated, would keep some man happy, thus preventing him from becoming a dangerous criminal.

Offline Senor_Cartmenez

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« Reply #159 on: Fri, 29 October 2010, 04:54:21 »
Quote from: chimera15;239982
I get my girl scout cookies from China.

http://taxdollars.ocregister.com/2010/01/25/girl-scouts-get-squeezed-cookies-are-no-savior/49693/


You should watch "The Boondocks" Season 3 Epsiode 7 "The Fundraiser"

"They call me the Fundraiser"
"And why is that?"
"Because I raise funds *****, what do you think?"

The whole episode is about the girlscout cooky business and kind of turns into a scarface type format. Pretty awesome epsiode, one of my favorite shows to watch :)

Offline zefrer

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« Reply #160 on: Fri, 29 October 2010, 06:06:23 »
Ugh, it annoys me to no end when people go on about how Farmville and bull like that is 'the future of PC gaming!!!11one!elevenandone!'

Where there is demand, there is a market. Mechanical keyboards anyone?

When we no longer see any AAA titles for the PC then.. :flypig:

Offline Senor_Cartmenez

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« Reply #161 on: Fri, 29 October 2010, 08:02:31 »
Well I do think ripster has a point in that. But I don't think it is the permanent future. I am a bliever of the "wave cycle" theory essentially saying that stuff in life comes in waves and often repeats in slightly different forms.

The current avalanche of casual games and the casualisation of just about any main title games does speak for a development towards farmville type games in the near future. I can very well imagine that the trend will continue and major games will become more and more casualized until they basically all end up being farmville-esque games.

But as a result there will be a vacuum because people who are searching for innovative and challenging game designes, for great stories and twists, for "deep ****" in general, will not die out all of a sudden. Just the majority of gamers will probably soon be n00bs who want casual and that's what they get. Once the market is saturated with farmville-clones, the vacuum will be filled again though by companies recognizing the demand of gamers that want "deep ****".

At that point in time my hope is that a fair bunch of the casual n00bs will have tasted the joy of gaming enough in order to be interested in "deep ****" as well thus resulting in a renaissance of games like Baldur's Gate, the original Starcraft, the original Counter Strike, etc. ...

Offline Senor_Cartmenez

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« Reply #162 on: Fri, 29 October 2010, 11:39:51 »
It will start in the middle east


Offline Lanx

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« Reply #163 on: Fri, 29 October 2010, 12:46:41 »
Quote from: chimera15;239979
This happened a few years ago.

http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/208369/boy-kills-mother-shoots-father-after-taking-away-halo-3/

No big deal.  Don't take away or interrupt people playing games.


Anyone read that article? father said Halo 3 too sexually explicit? I'm sorry gonna have to go +1 on the kid here, he was just probably trying to thin out the idiots for us!

Anyway this kind of "farmville is evil" reaction always reminds me of this story
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Shawn_Woolley

i included the graphic and pun like wiki instead since that was the first hit on youtube.

If you read the pun like article you can also find out that the mom now runs a mmo halfway house or something for ppl addicted to the evil mmo's and run's a website olga or something. Mainly it's mmo aa basically, take all the stuff from AA that references alcohol replay with mmo, it's a nutty forum. It's actually moderated more heavily than OCN, i actually tried to post there saying something like
"it's not the game's fault it's your own, stop being addicted and stop cybering cuz that's why all of you are addicted, the cybering, i know cuz while i never cyber'ed i was in charge of a few hundred ppl and a lot of them are messed up cuz they are addicted to the cyber, I never cared as long as the cybering didn't affect their gameplay"
It was much longer than that, giving an insider perspective really because when i read these posts these addicted mmo ppl just screamed of weak willed individuals who just got addicted to a few aspects of what a MMO can offer.

disclaimer: again i played mmo's eq1 and eq2 for a few years off and on, i never cybered, never really chatted with ppl, and only met one other couple in real life cuz it was convienient, not in that way! but we were (my fiancee and I) moving to a new town and they offered to show us around since they lived right around there. There's so many seedy stories just from the ppl I managed(i'm trying not to use mmo terms for the ppl who don't know in this case i would use guild, since i was the raid leader) it's pretty flabbergasting.

And it's not the game's fault, just ppl cannot control themselves, pretty much just like the theory, a drug dealer doesn't need to advertise, ppl will find him, he'll never say "damn i got too much coke inventory how am i going to get rid of it" coke sells itself to the addicted.

Offline Senor_Cartmenez

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« Reply #164 on: Mon, 01 November 2010, 08:42:39 »
To get back on the New Vegas topic:

My collector's edition arrived this weekend and I spend sunday playing a couple of hours.

First on the collector's edition:
The artbook/comic novel is kind of useless to me but I knew that from the start. I will probably keep it in "mint condition" and hope I can sell it some time ;)

The poker chips:
Probably the nicest give in of the CE. Look kewl, are not cheap plastic but have some weight. Might serve as nice "card protectors" in real poker games. The platin lucky 38 chip I don't get, just looks a bit lame ^^

The card game:
Bull****. 1st the backside of the cards are not uniform but differ, there is one type of "back" for each casino. This makes the cards useless for playing as someone can always tell what kind of cards you hold in your hands from the backside of the card. Who came up with this idiotic idea??? 2nd I was expecting cool PipBoy images and what do I get? Some "artsy" illustrations of all the characters ingame. Gnaaaaaa. I was so looking forward to the card game deck because I was looking for a good "non standard" card game to play poker. The normal cards just got way too boring for me. Bethesda u suck.

The making off DVD:
Don't know, didn't check it out yet but wouldn't be surprised to find out it's a collection of videos that you already saw in all types of game magazines i.e. on their websites...


Now to the Game:

I like it. I have to say that I got into it much slower than Fallout 3 where the "leaving the vault" scene as in Fallout 1 immediately created that great Fallout-atmosphere (which in Fallout 3 was lost and picked up again several times later in the game). Here it is more like Fallout 2 where u find into the game and its atmosphere more slowly.

I like however SPOILERS AHEAD

how they guide you through the game in the beginning. How Goodsprings is basically the "newbie region" and once you leave it **** starts cookin. I also like the faction system and the faction clothes. I like how I accidently wore NCR clothing when I got to NCRCF, shot the door guard, then realized I could probably converse with these fools if I didn't wear NCR clothes, put on the poweder ganger suit and went on inside talking to some folks. They let me through, nothing bugged out even though I probably would have had to talk to the doorguard hadn't I killed him. They let me walk around freely but the administration building and another one that are of more importance to the gang were still off limits and I got attacked. That's alright imo.

I liked how I met with the NCR and how Cesar's Legion are introduced shortly after. So far everything seems to fit in together well and I like how I am guided through the game in a way that allows for a presentation as meant by the author while still giving me the freedom to wander off my own way. If I wanted I could have headed straight to Vegas of course, which is also cool and I might do next playthrough (if there will be one).

From story and concept it seems like a proper Fallout and Obisidian game to me so far.



What I didn't like:
I can't say the game is exactly bugged but I can see that it is poorly coded.
The first time I started and played it everything went very well. No bugs, no freezes, no fps dips and loading problems. An all around smooth experience. However when I did the mission SPOILER AHEAD
where I help that guy who is holed up in the gas station to fight the powder gangers and they arrived in goodsprings, I had a massive fps dip when they attacked the saloon/store area with the hand full NPCs, me and the 4 or 5 powder gangers. It was unbearable there for a sec. After a few kills and everything was over quickly, it was alright again. Didn't have that fps problem in later situations where I had a bunch of NPCs on screen... even in combat.


I quit the game and returned an hour later. When I hit "continue" and loaded my last save, it took FOREVER to get loaded. I thought it froze but it just took extremely long!!! For a whole while it also took extremely long when I entered buildings or loaded savegames. I don't know what  I did but several hours, saves and loads later it worked as smooth as in the beginning.
I still experience occasional fps dips.

My system:
AMD Phenom II x4 955BE
4 GB DDR3 RAM
ATI Radeon HD 5870
Win7 64bit
SSD (but not used for fallout)

So now that I experienced it, I assume IceT doesn't need a new PC, bethesda and obsidian just need better coding.

I find it quite unbelievable that they coded so poorly. I am sure that if I played it on my xbox everything would be running smooth beginning to end which is an athrocity considering what a schweet system I run now. And I don't wanna play it again without the mouse, particularly since the VATS has been somewhat devalued and you just can't aim with a gamepad.

Offline shortround

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« Reply #165 on: Sun, 13 February 2011, 23:41:18 »
The game is extremely buggy on ps3 as well.  I imagine the xbox doesn't fare any better.  Fallout 3 was the same way.

Does anybody else miss the a3-21 plasma rifle or Fawkes?
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« Reply #166 on: Mon, 14 February 2011, 20:43:49 »
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Offline xira

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« Reply #167 on: Mon, 14 February 2011, 21:42:15 »
with most publishers on PC using Steamworks now, 0day piracy is a bigger issue on Xbox 360 now.
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