The payment was not resolved privately, you're lying. Streamline refunded Angel's GB purchase and that was it.
As far as I'm aware it was angel who blocked streamline after the refund, so unless you have evidence to suggest that Angel demanded further monetary reimbursement and was refused I have no reason to accept this line.
Angel requested actual payment and Streamline refused. You think getting a refund for a board you're no longer interested in due to the designer stealing your artwork is equal to fair compensation for your work?
Except you know that that isn't what happened, Streamline accidentally sent out the wrong weight therefore unintentionally using artwork in a way he hadn't paid to do. Angel requested compensation, Streamline obliged this request, and then Angel refused demanding instead a king's ransom. Angel blocked Streamline, Streamline tried to re-open more channels of communication, Angel again refused.
Streamline made an error, owned up to it, proved that it was an accident by demonstrating he did in fact have weights with a different art design already made, and offered monetary reperation for this transgression. The fact you think any of this is tantamount to theft boggles the mind.
More to the point, this was a private dispute between two individuals around art for a completely different product, it's simply irrelevent to this *interest check* about the duality 65, even if you felt the need to bring up contentions around the moral character of streamline you could have some so in a seperate thread with screenshot evidence and linked it here so it could be addressed properly and seperately, instead of dragging this thread into the mud most improperly. The conversation here should be about the product.
Hey whats up, Angel here. gonna go over a few things ive seen you and others say.
I see you saying everywhere that I blocked Streamline, when in actuality the only person who was blocked was me. can you guess who did it? it was from streamline, on instagram. Yes, I unfollowed him when all of this happened, because why would i want to follow that kind of person? every single one of my DMs are open, I dont block people. if he wanted to make this right he would have when all of this originally happened.
He claimed he sent out the wrong weight by mistake, but if you were to read the imgur album you would see the weight with my artwork was posted for sale, and he even apologizes about listing it, saying that he did not actually sell it even though it was listed. this is my reasoning for saying it was not an accident. "Oh but Angel, he got multiple weights engraved with the same concept on each one, yours was just one of them so it was a mistake" and yet he has never shown any proof of these other weights with the same exact concept that he described for sale? When all of this first came out, he said give him a week and he would post the other weights with the same concept of see hear speak on the inside and the rosary on the outside with timestamps that he had them when he was selling them in October. well here we are a month and a half later with no images, videos, anything.
Yes, he did offer compensation first, if you look at the timestamps, you will see he offered me his "cost to manufacture" within 10 minutes of me putting all the pieces together that he sold the board with my artwork on it that he had originally claimed was still in his house. his cost to manufacture the weight with my artwork is not equal to the price of my artwork, simple and plain, not too sure whats difficult to understand about that.
The number one thing everyone loves to bring up is that Im extorting him because "I know he has a high paying job so im trying to get way more money from him than i should." To be entirely honest with you, I have no clue nor do I care what he does for a living, as it doesnt matter to me. what matters is that the board was sold for $2000, regardless of his "manufacturing costs" that is the price tag that he put on the board. Like I said in the message to him, I would have been fine with being paid $567 if he didnt sell it, lie, double down on the lie, and then finally offer the price of his manufacturing.
I also see a lot of people say Im sending people over here and his discord and reddit to try and make him look bad. again, I dont care how he looks, i dont care about his life, it is not something I think about on a day to day basis. I do not send anyone anywhere to do anything. All I did was show receipts without cutting anything out to the community so people could be cautious.
"unless you have evidence to suggest that Angel demanded further monetary reimbursement and was refused" guess what? its in the imgur album. where I say that my artwork is worth $1200, and he says hes not going to be extorted extra money for a prototype board he didnt profit on. That is him refusing how much my artwork is worth.
a lot of people say $1200 is too high of a price for a commissioned piece of artwork. if its too high then dont sell it. do what you had originally told me it would be used for and keep it as a permanent personal board. he received the weight, took pictures, and listed it for sale all within a week of each other. doesnt really sound like someone had intention of making it a "permanent personal board" but what do I know? if we had talked about it beforehand, we couldve definitely agreed on something lower than $1200. But we didnt, it was already sold long before I even realized he sold it. so since there was no conversation about how much he would compensate me for when he originally sold it, I gave my price that my artwork is worth.
another thing people like to bring up is how open I was to sending him the file, saying i sent it to him without saying i would like any compensation. again, timestamps are important, because if you look at this entire conversation, you would see that the file being sent up to him asking if he could put the artwork on a duality (as he said "just for his prototype, not to sell obviously") all took place within one minute. from 8:13AM to 8:14AM. No I dont mind if my artwork is used when it is not sold and only used for personal one off boards, but sold is not equal to mass produced, and my artwork was sold, regardless of how many units.
Streamline trying to "reopen" more channels of communication was a single attempt, and it was him trying to talk to me in front of his whole audience in his server after he had already banned me from his server because, in his words, "Yeah I’m kicking you from my server, look at you." im not going to go up on stage in front of all of his friends, because like i said, i never blocked him. he could have messaged me any day since then but has not done so.
one last thing people say is "how could you defame a friend like that?" we were acquaintances. we had only ever talked maybe two or three times before all of this happened. and it was me respecting his board and buying one to support a small creator. i did not defame anyone. once all of this happened, i posted all of the dm's, without skipping anything, and let everyone form their own opinion on the matter. isnt that what you all stand for in the Saevus discord? everyone is allowed to form their own opinion on a topic? or can they only form their opinion as long as its not against saevus?
if you have any other questions i would be more than happy to answer them, but those are the main points i see people defending him bring up.