Sinklist : STN ( Switch Try Numpad ) open for participants.

[SirClickAlot]

The Switch Try Numpad is ready. It has all 5 major cherry switches on board and is fully functional ( so you peeps who really would like to see cherry activation and de-activation points should be very happy now.... :-) )


 If you want to participate in this particular sinklist please PM me your address and which sinklist you want to participate in. Take note this sinklist item is still under 2 kilos so posting it around should not cost that much.

Other requirements for this list :
At least 10 posts on this board.  Contribute to the community and you'll earn your place on the sinklist.

Regards.

[SirClickAlot]

[Syrianto]

Wow, I would love to try this. I'll start posting around a bit more so I can meet the 10 post mark =D

Do you know approximately how much the shipping costs are?

[SirClickAlot]

I don't know how much the shipping costs are since I don't know what they are in all the different countries.

This little baby weighs around 421 grams ( without packing ) . So check your local post office what it would cost to send around... It should be fairly minimal though and surely less than buying keyboards you don't use because you don't like the switch.

Regards.

[Lanx]

you can just prolly do us postal 7bucks shipping as long as it fits in box thing.

[SirClickAlot]

Would it be possible for you to build a universal shipping case for it (a foam-padded, duct tape reinforced cigar box comes to mind), so that all the sinklist members could use that instead of packing it themselves every single time?

Good idea.

I'll see what I can do about it.

Regards.

[Syrianto]

I visited the UPS website to try to calculate shipping costs and I set my location(Calgary, Alberta) to some US destination (Beverly Hills, lol). I said the weight of the thing was like a pound and the estimate came out between $60 to $140... That can't be right, I hope =/

[SirClickAlot]

I visited the UPS website to try to calculate shipping costs and I set my location(Calgary, Alberta) to some US destination (Beverly Hills, lol). I said the weight of the thing was like a pound and the estimate came out between $60 to $140... That can't be right, I hope =/

OUCH! is it THAT much to post something half a kilo to the US from Canada?

If that is the case the STN and STK sinklist progress will be seriously hampered. I hope there are other postal services available?

Regards.

[HaaTa]

UPS can be a rip off. Try some other services. Like Fedex, Purolator, DHL, Canada Post (probably the cheapest), etc.

[HaaTa]

Purolator?

You guys smuggle stuff across the border in Oil Filters?

I must be too hungry, cause I'm missing something here...

[Syrianto]

UPS can be a rip off. Try some other services. Like Fedex, Purolator, DHL, Canada Post (probably the cheapest), etc.

Oh yeah, great! I tried online for Canada Post and it's a nice $10 or so to ship from Canada to the US. If we start shipping worldwide, then it gets pretty pricy.

Mr. Interface, do you know if there'd be a lot of shipping worldwide? Or mainly in North America? Thanks for setting this up by the way!

[SirClickAlot]

Mr. Interface, do you know if there'd be a lot of shipping worldwide? Or mainly in North America? Thanks for setting this up by the way!

Mainly North America.... Somehow that's the place where most geekhackers can be found.

The sinklist for the STN isn't going as fast as I'd hoped.... Only 2 peeps from the US have enlisted....

Thanx for checking the postal fees.

Regards.

[vorter]

Uhm, what is a sinklist?
Is it where you just receive the item and once youve demoed it, you send it on to someone else?

[SirClickAlot]

Uhm, what is a sinklist?
Is it where you just receive the item and once youve demoed it, you send it on to someone else?

Yes, exactly.

Also see : www.opensink.com for a more formal definition of a sinklist. It is just my definition though.

Regards.

[SirClickAlot]

And it's away!

First on the list : Bluerain.

Hope this one rides smoothly, it did cost me about 10 euros to ship internationally.

Regards.

[lam47]

This is pretty cool. I would probably be up for it. I have tried them all but the reds and would like to give them a go.
DHL is pretty cheap and very reliable.

[BlueRain]

Can't wait.

[SirClickAlot]

This is pretty cool. I would probably be up for it. I have tried them all but the reds and would like to give them a go.
DHL is pretty cheap and very reliable.

Lam47, if you want to be on this particular sinklist, PM me your name and address and you are on(!)


Regards.

[lam47]

thanks
I have a green and a gray cherry I would be happy to add to the numpad if you think anyone would be interested?
I know you cant get boards of just these switches but there is nothing to stop someone buying a load and making an all green cherry keyboard!
I will PM you.

[Syrianto]

Sweeeeet, can't wait!! =D

[SirClickAlot]

thanks
I have a green and a gray cherry I would be happy to add to the numpad if you think anyone would be interested?
I know you cant get boards of just these switches but there is nothing to stop someone buying a load and making an all green cherry keyboard!
I will PM you.

If you would put the green and gray cherry together with the numpad that would be an excellent! We could see it as a bonus item on top of the sinklist item.

Regards.

[lam47]

Sure will do. You don't think they should be added to the PCB? Up to you of course.
I don't think my PM sent. I will try again.

[Wogrim]

I'm too stingy and would rather take my chances with browns.  It's very nice of you to make this though.

[SirClickAlot]

Sure will do. You don't think they should be added to the PCB? Up to you of course.
I don't think my PM sent. I will try again.

The switches could best be added to the next revision of the Switch Try Board. This one let's you actually see when a key is activated or de-activated. So you might want to send them to me so I can make use of them?

Regards.

[lam47]

I don't quite understand what you mean.
If I added them to the numpad they too would activate and de-activate like the other keys.

[SirClickAlot]

I don't quite understand what you mean.
If I added them to the numpad they too would activate and de-activate like the other keys.

The numpad itself can't be messed around with since the package also contains a buddy sheet explaining what the switches are. Here is a link to pictures of it.
If you would change it, the buddysheet would also need to be changed. I can do this, but for this to happen the numpad needs to be sent back to me in order for me to fix it.

What I meant is that I can use the switches for another project : the switch try Board. I want to make a second version of it and for this project I can use the two different cherry switches.

Regards.

[runeazn]

The numpad itself can't be messed around with since the package also contains a buddy sheet explaining what the switches are. Here is a link to pictures of it.
If you would change it, the buddysheet would also need to be changed. I can do this, but for this to happen the numpad needs to be sent back to me in order for me to fix it.

What I meant is that I can use the switches for another project : the switch try Board. I want to make a second version of it and for this project I can use the two different cherry switches.

Regards.

Can i be the last one,aka i get it from somebody europe or US.
and i am the last person and send it back to you.
I lvie In netherlands

[SirClickAlot]

Can i be the last one,aka i get it from somebody europe or US.
and i am the last person and send it back to you.
I lvie In netherlands

Sure you can....

Just PM me your name and address.

EDIT : if you are scared of high prices for shipping the items, why don't you apply for one of the other sinklist items?

Regards.

[lam47]

I would be happy to re print the list and to solder the switches in.
However if you would prefer I will just pop the switches in with the numpad.
I would not mess about with it I am very good at soldering etc.

The numpad itself can't be messed around with since the package also contains a buddy sheet explaining what the switches are. Here is a link to pictures of it.
If you would change it, the buddysheet would also need to be changed. I can do this, but for this to happen the numpad needs to be sent back to me in order for me to fix it.

What I meant is that I can use the switches for another project : the switch try Board. I want to make a second version of it and for this project I can use the two different cherry switches.

Regards.

[runeazn]

Sure you can....

Just PM me your name and address.

EDIT : if you are scared of high prices for shipping the items, why don't you apply for one of the other sinklist items?

Regards.

since 16 euro isn't worth to ship something..
+ i want to find my ideal switch :/

[SirClickAlot]

Alright, we will see when you receive the sinklist item.

Thanx for this help Lam...

Regards.

I would be happy to re print the list and to solder the switches in.
However if you would prefer I will just pop the switches in with the numpad.
I would not mess about with it I am very good at soldering etc.

[whiteweazel21]

I'm surprised so few people have signed up, it looks like a great test board. If possible, I would like to sign up as well. I do not post often, but I do read the board almost everyday planning my mechanical keyboard purchase. However, there is that fear that I will not like the non-returnable item that has delayed said purchase!

Thanks.

[SirClickAlot]

I'm surprised so few people have signed up, it looks like a great test board. If possible, I would like to sign up as well. I do not post often, but I do read the board almost everyday planning my mechanical keyboard purchase. However, there is that fear that I will not like the non-returnable item that has delayed said purchase!

Thanks.

Yes, there aren't that many people subscribing to this particular sinklist item.

If you'd like to join this particular sinklist PM me your name and address and the name of the sinklist you'd like to join. For all sinklists except the Topre Keychain there is a minimum of 10 posts requirement on this board.

Regards.

[Nadger]

Wouldnt it make sense to combine this one and the switch try board sinklists?  They are basically the same thing isnt it?

Combine the numpad sinklist and the stb sinklist and send it out to america (as stb is going through europe/asia first)

[BlueRain]

So what are the switches for the other columns? I didn't see it in the pictures, but maybe you included it in the package?

Still can't wait...

[SirClickAlot]

So what are the switches for the other columns? I didn't see it in the pictures, but maybe you included it in the package?

Still can't wait...

I included a so called buddy sheet with the sinklist item : this tells you what the colors of the switches are, you can also read it from the pictures at my site. I might make this more evident though -> there are 5 major cherry groups on there arranged in rows : black, red, blue, brown and clear.

Regards.

[SirClickAlot]

Wouldnt it make sense to combine this one and the switch try board sinklists?  They are basically the same thing isnt it?

Combine the numpad sinklist and the stb sinklist and send it out to america (as stb is going through europe/asia first)

There is one major difference between the STN( Numpad ) and STB ( Board ) : the numpad lets you actually connect it to a computer and lets you try the switches activation points.
The reason there is an STB ( Switch Try Board ) is due to its size and weight it is much cheaper to send this around. Plus the STB contains more switches other than cherry ( 3 alps and an cherry ML switch ).It cannot be connected to a computer though, for that you need either the STN ( Switch Try Numpad ) or the STK ( Switch Try Keyboard )

Regards.

[BlueRain]

I saw the picture of switches for the first column, so that's why I asked about the other columns. If they are arranged in rows, there are a few that don't line up: '0', '.', 'Enter', and '+'.

I included a so called buddy sheet with the sinklist item : this tells you what the colors of the switches are, you can also read it from the pictures at my site. I might make this more evident though -> there are 5 major cherry groups on there arranged in rows : black, red, blue, brown and clear.

Regards.

[SirClickAlot]

I saw the picture of switches for the first column, so that's why I asked about the other columns. If they are arranged in rows, there are a few that don't line up: '0', '.', 'Enter', and '+'.

Here is a copy paste from the back of the buddysheet :


F1, F2, F3, F4 : cherry brown
7,8,9 : cherry red
4,5,6 : cherry black
1,2,3 : cherry clear
All other keys : cherry blue

Regards.

[whiteweazel21]

Thanks, I sent you a PM. I've seen a few of you videos searching google for keyboards. Where do you purchase the keyboards in your collection? You seem to get your hands on all the nice keyboards!

[SirClickAlot]

Thanks, I sent you a PM. I've seen a few of you videos searching google for keyboards. Where do you purchase the keyboards in your collection? You seem to get your hands on all the nice keyboards!

Where do I purchase? Mainly via the net and ebay :-)

This collection was built over several years you should know... My first mechanical keyboard was over 5 years ago and if my wife isn't convincing me to take it easy on the keyboards I would have had a great many more ;-)

There are others also with larger collections, for instance webwit and sixty.

Regards.

[BlueRain]

Ah, I see, thanks for the clarification.

[Nadger]

There is one major difference between the STN( Numpad ) and STB ( Board ) : the numpad lets you actually connect it to a computer and lets you try the switches activation points.
The reason there is an STB ( Switch Try Board ) is due to its size and weight it is much cheaper to send this around. Plus the STB contains more switches other than cherry ( 3 alps and an cherry ML switch ).It cannot be connected to a computer though, for that you need either the STN ( Switch Try Numpad ) or the STK ( Switch Try Keyboard )

Regards.

Ahh right, makes sense. You can feel the point of actuation for all but the reds and blacks correct?  So for all but those you can get a good feel for without them being plugged into your computer.

Where would you say a red/black actuates 50% down or less?

[SirClickAlot]

Where would you say a red/black actuates 50% down or less?

Cherry linear switches actuate at 50% as far as I can see/feel.

Regards.

[Mr. Perfect]

I visited the UPS website to try to calculate shipping costs and I set my location(Calgary, Alberta) to some US destination (Beverly Hills, lol). I said the weight of the thing was like a pound and the estimate came out between $60 to $140... That can't be right, I hope =/

It may have defaulted to Priority Over Night. We have a UPS Worldship station at work, and every single order defaults to that. I can't imagine how many people got charged ten times what they should have just because they forgot to pick Ground from the dropdown list.

[whiteweazel21]

Hopefully that's a mistake, although depending on the weight it could be possible. I don't know if you have FedEx in Canada, but generally shipping from the US to Canada via FedEx is much cheaper. Maybe even look into a flat rate box.

[Mr. Perfect]

Actually, I'd like to try this out if it's alright? It can't be good to be constantly wondering if I should get a cherry red board imported from China.:decision:

[SirClickAlot]

Actually, I'd like to try this out if it's alright? It can't be good to be constantly wondering if I should get a cherry red board imported from China.:decision:

Send me a PM with your name and address.

Regards.

[Mr. Perfect]

*fidget*:bump2:

[SirClickAlot]

It seems the shipper had some problems with the package since it didn't arrive at its destination.

This is kinda bad news since I need to fill in an investigation form and try and retrieve the item.....

Lesson learned : bigger packages have a higher chance of disappearing when shipped internationally.

Regards.