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Offline Lanx

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ghetto cherry browns from cherry blue
« on: Sun, 28 November 2010, 11:01:49 »
if you have a cherry blue board and are tired of the "click" go make ghetto cherry browns.


cherry blues are basically just clicky of cherry browns (except for the 5force difference)
start by locating the 4 tabs on the switch, 2 on each side


i made this tool it was a $1 tweezer, idk where i got it from, just bent some pins and you can "rock" it into the tabs on a soldered board and pop open a cherry.


here's the only physical difference between a brown and blue, the blue has the split white thing it "clicks" upon the leaf spring releasing and there's your sound.


so simply just glue the white thing to the top of the blue stem and you have ghetto browns no more noise


why this mod? may ppl bought a blue cherry and now regret the noise, and don't want to desolder blue cherrys and replace with brown cherries.

or ppl want to make other switches.

Ripster says a black spring and brown stem=ghetto cherry red so you can have fun with that too.

Offline Arcanius

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« Reply #1 on: Sun, 28 November 2010, 12:00:03 »
Great idea, and perfect for people buying Blackwidows or Rosewills, and don't have an option to buy Browns!
Does the feel vary between these modded blues and browns? Isn't there a difference in tactility? Also, I thought the springs between blues and browns was different?

Offline panda-R

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« Reply #2 on: Sun, 28 November 2010, 12:39:23 »
The tactility of the browns and blues are definitely different, at least to my untrained fingers and supported by the graphs that have been floating around. I wonder if this mod changes the feeling of the blues?
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« Reply #3 on: Sun, 28 November 2010, 12:44:19 »
Quote from: Arcanius;253381
I thought the springs between blues and browns was different
This post supports that statement. And the article doesn't deny it, too.
« Last Edit: Sun, 28 November 2010, 12:48:29 by nanu »

Offline Lanx

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« Reply #4 on: Sun, 28 November 2010, 12:44:28 »
take note the tactility is probably also including the "clack" from the noise. felt the same to me, i only gorilla glued one switch so it's not like i tried a whole sentence. it is gonna be a mod for life, unless you can slice it off and even get rid of the glue residue. Maybe a tiny drop on the corner is all you need. Depends on your glue of choice.

Offline laden3

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« Reply #5 on: Sun, 28 November 2010, 12:51:22 »
black stem+ brown spring= ghetto red; brown stem+ black spring= ghetto white (sounds funny, brown+black=white??)
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Offline Soarer

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« Reply #6 on: Sun, 28 November 2010, 13:43:05 »
Having tried both clear and the black spring / brown stem combo, I can say they are noticably different. I quite like the combo.

Black spring + brown stem is to browns as greens are to blues... so applying the same shift in hue they are ghetto purples :-D

Offline Arcanius

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« Reply #7 on: Mon, 29 November 2010, 17:09:48 »
One quick Q:
Is it possible to do this without actually removing the switch? If it's plate mounted, for example?
I know I saw a link to a vid where a guy pops switches without desoldering.... But is that viable?

Offline Findecanor

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« Reply #8 on: Mon, 29 November 2010, 18:12:21 »
Argh. Don't do this! I want cheap cherry MX blue switches to replace my cherry browns ...
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Offline 8_INCH_FLOPPY

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« Reply #9 on: Thu, 02 December 2010, 19:05:16 »
I thought blues were more expensive.  Why would you do this?
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Offline taswyn

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« Reply #10 on: Sun, 05 December 2010, 11:00:20 »
If anyone actually does this to an entire board, it would be *great* to hear how it feels in comparison to normal browns ^.^

Offline J888www

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« Reply #11 on: Sun, 05 December 2010, 16:16:17 »
Quote from: 8_INCH_FLOPPY;255989
I thought blues were more expensive.  Why would you do this?
Previously, people prefer the Browns as the "ckicky" Blues were not as popular due to the distraction, but trends tend to change with Time. Don't let on that it is Blues which are now more popular else they'll change the pricing even sooner.

There is a clicky switch which is similar to the MX Blues, but much more demure/refined/not as distracting.

Edit: The Poll have changed to Browns are now more popular, tomorrow is another and it may change yet again so please do not quote me.
« Last Edit: Thu, 13 January 2011, 18:47:01 by J888www »
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Offline taswyn

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« Reply #12 on: Sun, 05 December 2010, 21:01:11 »
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Don't let on that it is Blues which are now more popular else they'll change the pricing even sooner.

Also, most of the more broadly commercialized (in the US) mechanical keyboards use blues, especially the slew of them hitting the market lately. It's very frustrating when you want a reasonably quiet, light force tactile keyboard that you don't have to bottom out on something of a budget. "Oh look, another consumer mechanical keyboard with... blues =(" It's either pay nearly twice as much (of course, it's *usually* not wasted, you often get better quality overall) or mod something. Unless I've been missing some ^^;

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« Reply #13 on: Mon, 06 December 2010, 02:57:24 »
Quote from: ripster;257776
a lot of the old timer Geekhack Cherry Brown lovers were real whiners.


What? What?
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« Reply #14 on: Mon, 06 December 2010, 07:26:26 »
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There is a clicky switch which is similar to the MX Blues, but much more demure/refined/not as distracting.

Which one should that be?

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« Reply #15 on: Mon, 06 December 2010, 13:34:03 »
Complicated white ALPS.
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« Reply #16 on: Mon, 06 December 2010, 13:39:15 »
Hey, you didn't give credit to MW for that pic.


Offline symphonic1985

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« Reply #17 on: Sat, 08 January 2011, 05:24:31 »
Has there been any progress on this front? I just received another Cherry blue board in the mail. I'm pretty tempted to do some gluing instead of spending yet more money to buy a brown board.

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« Reply #18 on: Sat, 08 January 2011, 09:42:40 »
I am curious.. Does the glueing change the feel of the blue switch in any way except for removing hysteresis on the upstroke? How is the sound?

At first, I disliked this idea.. but now I am thinking that perhaps this is what I am after... Something close to browns, but more tactile.
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Offline symphonic1985

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« Reply #19 on: Sun, 09 January 2011, 07:16:24 »
Since I'm in Germany, I'm on the opposite side of the clear/brown sourcing problem.  The clears shouldn't be hard to get here, if I stalk ebay for long enough.

Was the feeling of blue spring + clear stem very similar to the browns? Near enough might be good enough if I can save a bunch of money with a used LQC board.

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« Reply #20 on: Thu, 13 January 2011, 16:58:46 »
I have tested Cherry Clear stem and Blue/Brown spring. It is not that much like a Brown. The longer tactile bump and steep increase in force of the Clear is still there, just softer.

I would like to know if Cherry Blue stem that has been glued together would retain the feel on the downstroke, but lose the click sound and the hysteresis. If I had any spare Blues not in any keyboard I would test it myself, but I don't.
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Offline J888www

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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 13 January 2011, 18:44:20 »
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Which one should that be?
The ones on my ONE.

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« Last Edit: Thu, 13 January 2011, 18:52:09 by J888www »
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Offline dogcrapau

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« Reply #22 on: Thu, 03 May 2012, 22:39:16 »
since alot of people are now into getting clear switch mods, i wonder if anyone has tried this mod by now and if they could update us on their opinion?