Double shot replacements ROUND THREE!

[7bit]

Double shot replacements for Cherry MX (Filco/Ducky/Cherry).

Please visit the new thread to vote for kits and
give quantities of how much you would like to order.

The following is obsolete:

Color scheme similar or equal to Round 1.
Everything centered, no arrows, nor symbols etc.[1]

Optional extra sets for
UK, NL, AT/DE/SE, FR, Colemak, Dvorak and other special layouts.

If you like a key to be added or removed,
just state in post which and where.

Set up a poll if you like some extra symbols included.[2]

Prices are not fixed.
These are maximum prices for 1 of 50 sets (Standard kit) and
1 of 25 sets (all other kits), excluding shipping.
You don't need to order a Standard kit along your
local/alternate-layout kit. Each kit will sell separately.



1. Standard kit   @ $50

• 104 US-layout in black/grey-color-scheme with white labels,
• cursor-keys with no arrows; Up, Down, Left, Right instead!
• Numpad 0-9: no arrows, no text, just numbers only (in grey)
• Control and Caps Lock (both, stepped and normal)
• 1 1/4-keys: 2xAlt, 2xSuper, 2xControl, Meta
• GeekHack keys in both colors
• to please those analphabetics: 4 arrow keys are included.

2. UK kit       @ $7

3. AT/DE/SE kit @ $14

4. FR kit       @ $13

5. NL kit       @ $12

6. Colemak kit  @ $5

7. Dvorak kit   @ $8

8. Modifier kit        @ $18

• Rub Out and Symbol (stepped and unstepped version)
• 2xHyper,  Meta,   Compose,  Function, 2xCommand, 2xOption (1 1/4 sized)
• Backspace, Line (at Tab or |\-position)
• Spacebar in black,
• additional modifier keys could be added but might raise the price a bit.

    (maybe this will split up into 2 modifier sets)
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9. Numeric kit         @ $10

• including 0-9 with additional single-sized 0 and vertical = (for number-block, black)
• & % ^ = ( ) @ $ \ |  |\ (for top rows, black)
•  [ ] {   }  :  \ | |\  - + (QWERTY-row, black)
• = - + (ASDFG-row, black)
•  |\  = (ZXCVBN-row, black)
• plus some other keys (all in black)

10. Function kit        @ $10

• F13-F24 (matching colors),
• F1-F4, F9-F12 (in black)
• Cut, Copy, Paste, Undo, Redo, Help, Reset (in black)
• plus some other keys (all in black)

I will post layout-schemes for other kits later.

Any suggestions or comments are welcome!

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[1] If you want off-center labels, or a different color (e.g. pink),
please refer to Round TWO!

[2] Titles for polls should follow the scheme:
Double shot replacements ROUND THREE: Awesome and Trollface keys
Double shot replacements ROUND THREE: XX-layout
Double shot replacements ROUND THREE: Abcdef-layout

[JinDesu]

Should we pm you with questions, or can we ask them here?

[Twitchy]

Decisive! Yes!

International kits are proper double shot keys not blanks?

[7bit]

Should we pm you with questions, or can we ask them here?

Please ask any questions here!

Decisive! Yes!

International kits are proper double shot keys not blanks?

These are all keys to be added to the 104-US-stadard layout. I will post graphics for those sets as soon as possible, so everyone interested can make sugestions or corrections if I got something wrong.

Other national layouts could be made as well, depending which letters SP has in stock.

[woody]

Why the decision to name arrow keys?

[Minskleip]

Standard kit does not include 0-9 and F1-F12?

[7bit]

Standard kit does not include 0-9 and F1-F12?

It will be a full 104-key set plus Geek Hack, plus Caps and Control in both versions.

Why the decision to name arrow keys?

I don't like arrows. But if the majority likes arrows, it will be arrows and up, down, left, right will become an extra.

I also like the text in all-caps. Maybe I set up a poll on that later.

[7bit]

Who will make them?

Signature Plastics.

[mkawa]

mac-style modifiers please

[JinDesu]

Standard kit does not include 0-9 and F1-F12?

At 104 keys, I assume it must include those.

I'd like to echo the lack of arrows question from above. And when you say "please refer to round 2" for differently colored or off centered font, what do you mean? Thanks!

*arrow question answered, please ignore that one*

[7bit]

At 104 keys, I assume it must include those.

I'd like to echo the lack of arrows question from above. And when you say "please refer to round 2" for differently colored or off centered font, what do you mean? Thanks!

*arrow question answered, please ignore that one*

If I don't fix at least something, it will end in the same chaos as round 2. Leaving everything open for discussion, will never lead to an actual set of keycaps.

I do not want to take over round 2. The only outcome of round 2 so far is: it will have off-center, if doable slanted, labeling in a (at least to me) wired color scheme.

On the other hand, I know that there are lots of people who missed round 1 or just want a national or alternate layout.

That's the idea.

[Hofy]

Count me in for a set.
How about up, down, left,right text and arrows?

[Hofy]

double post due to lag in the hotel.

[woody]

I don't like arrows. But if the majority likes arrows, it will be arrows and up, down, left, right will become an extra.

You'd better move textual arrows into the Modifier or other set.[/QUOTE]

The general direction is right - less options, less chaos.

[Minskleip]

Sign me up for a standard set. I like your idea for the numpad!

[7bit]

I also have found Moby **** Hunters and Pandas to wander aimlessly in the sea and forest.

So I assume they will look like this?  Not the layout, but I mean the keys and stuff.

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Keys yes, stuff not.

And I'm not getting the Arrow key thing.  Or Windows Key hate.

It's quite nice.

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Windows key will be included if the majority wants it. Same for arrows. If not, it is also possible to add it as an extra.

I will collect those whishes and set up polls on these.

ps: What about a key labeled WINDOWS for a change?

Count me in for a set.
How about up, down, left,right text and arrows?

I think it would be doable within that price to include 4 arrow keys in the standard set.

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

Will there be a Norwegian set ? Just asking for my friend who bought the Ducky 9008; but may be interested if there was a Norwegian set :X

So i'm guessing it would look something like this

Dk-9008



G80-3494





Filco

[7bit]

Will there be a Norwegian set ? Just asking for my friend who bought the Ducky 9008; but may be interested if there was a Norwegian set :X

So i'm guessing it would look something like this

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*image courtesy of a Panda

Set up a poll on that, if there are 25 sets to be ordered, each set will cost around $10.

[itlnstln]

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Ha! Just noticed the Y and T swapped.


So what if I'm late to the party.

[db_Iodine]

I'm in for one standard set.

[7bit]

mac-style modifiers please

Could you please be more specific on these?

Text-only is doable.

Please notice that ⌘ or the apple-logo are most likely not available.

SP can create these, but it will cost a lot extra $$$ I'm afraid.

[chuckading]

Could you please be more specific on these?

Text-only is doable.

Please notice that ⌘ or the apple-logo are most likely not available.

SP can create these, but it will cost a lot extra $$$ I'm afraid.

Using text, "Command" would work as the extra modifier keys for mac users.
Since "Control" is spelled out, and works with all key sets, "Command" would match and is in text.


Count me in for a set.

[7bit]

Using text, "Command" would work as the extra modifier keys for mac users.
Since "Control" is spelled out, and works with all key sets, "Command" would match and is in text.

Count me in for a set.

'Command' added to Modifier kit.

[dewaere]

If I can get that for my Filco 105 keys, french layout, Im in.

[steeef]

I'm in for a standard set.

[SpatiallyAware]

Why is F5-F8 a different color?  It really stands out; that's the only thing holding me back from placing an order.

[panda-R]

YES! Now i don't have to do the other one, but if it's gonna be the same as the first set imma be out.

[7bit]

YES! Now i don't have to do the other one, but if it's gonna be the same as the first set imma be out.

I'm very disappointed! I thought you would come up with something entirely different and would just take your time for preparation end enquiration.

To be serious:
I don't want to steal Round 2 away from you. I just felt that Round 2 will not be what I want or need. The idea is to do some extra keys, plus some national layouts. It will not be the same as Round 1, because all labels will be centered and maybe in all-caps.

I would really love if you would carry on with Round 2, what ever outcome it will have!

[7bit]

Why is F5-F8 a different color?  It really stands out; that's the only thing holding me back from placing an order.

It's the usual 2-color layout.

What would you like? All function keys in black or in grey?

If I can get that for my Filco 105 keys, french layout, Im in.

French layout is available, if there are 25 sets ordered. (or maybe less, at a higher per set price.)

[Ekaros]

105-key ISO SW/FI would add up to? Possible even?

Also just standard, alphapet section including, modifier and other keys...

Also, how much one off very special layouts are? Like:

[inlikeflynn]

I'm in for a standard set.

[CeeSA]

1 std, 1 AT/DE/SE kit for me plz

[7bit]

So, SE is SE/FI?
Full 105-key ISO SE/FI would add up to?

Also, how much one off very special layouts are? Like:

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My plan is to do DE and SE layout in one set, because they do not differ that much.





(Most of that blue stuff on both layouts will not appear on my set.)

Finnish layout looks quite different, if you really want all those blue labels as well. The problem is, that those extra letters on the A-Z-keys will spoil the simple centered layout (for that reason there will be no EUR-sign on European layouts).

It is doable, but be aware that there is only one text-color available, as SP can't do tripple shot key caps!

Also you need some others to order a Finnish set, to get a reasonable price.

[Ekaros]

My plan is to do DE and SE layout in one set, because they do not differ that much.

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(Most of that blue stuff on both layouts will not appear on my set.)

Finnish layout looks quite different, if you really want all those blue labels as well. The problem is, that those extra letters on the A-Z-keys will spoil the simple centered layout (for that reason there will be no EUR-sign on European layouts).

It is doable, but be aware that there is only one text-color available, as SP can't do tripple shot key caps!

Also you need some others to order a Finnish set, to get a reasonable price.

Acctualy that's just my dream, might have to get it lasered some time...

Ah, so SE stands for Sweden, which is same layout as Finnish one. I'm just more used with SW... I'm happy with it if it's include num-row and other special character buttons too...

Apart from € on E and µ, all blue labels are included? Which is my main concern.

[Twitchy]

@7bit

I hope that I've saved you some work!

[panda-R]

I'm very disappointed! I thought you would come up with something entirely different and would just take your time for preparation end enquiration.

To be serious:
I don't want to steal Round 2 away from you. I just felt that Round 2 will not be what I want or need. The idea is to do some extra keys, plus some national layouts. It will not be the same as Round 1, because all labels will be centered and maybe in all-caps.

I would really love if you would carry on with Round 2, what ever outcome it will have!

DOOOOOOOOD!

ok well since you put it that way then I'mma still think of something for round two or round 10 whatever it comes to then, most likely I don't want to do anything similiar but I think lots of people still want round 1 stuff.

*HUGZ*

[Ekaros]

DOOOOOOOOD!

ok well since you put it that way then I'mma still think of something for round two or round 10 whatever it comes to then, most likely I don't want to do anything similiar but I think lots of people still want round 1 stuff.

*HUGZ*

Yeah, there are specials, but I see this might be oportunity for those non UK/US-layouts...

Hmm, do I need a few red-esc keys?

[db_Iodine]

I might like it more if there was an option for black spacebar and black F1-F12 keys.

Edit: Black spacebar is already an option. Just the F1-F4 & F8-F12 then.

[theferenc]

I'd be in for a full set, plus a modifier, number, and function kit.

[7bit]

Acctualy that's just my dream, might have to get it lasered some time...

Ah, so SE stands for Sweden, which is same layout as Finnish one. I'm just more used with SW... I'm happy with it if it's include num-row and other special character buttons too...

Apart from € on E and µ, all blue labels are included? Which is my main concern.

7 to 0 [,{,},] are doable if needed. 2 to 5 will be different between SE and DE layout. Might get a little more expansive, will enquire on that later.

ps: ISO country codes.

[Ekaros]

7 to 0 [,{,},] are doable if needed. 2 to 5 will be different between SE and DE layout. Might get a little more expansive, will enquire on that later.

ps: ISO country codes.

I prefer perfection, there is minute differences, also with a few modifications mainly two letter-keys and two other keys I think danish is same as SW/FI...
Not that I'm interst in those...

Might order two sets if they are up to spec.

PS: Just to get in semantics, for Swedish sv or swe is used... Nothing can't ever be simple...

[arc2]

If this was available with the UK kit I would be in.

[2084]

So I suppose you will ship from Germany after you'll get the package from Signature? Asking because of shipping costs later

[7bit]

I might like it more if there was an option for black spacebar and black F1-F12 keys.

Edit: Black spacebar is already an option. Just the F1-F4 & F8-F12 then.

There are F13-F24 in the Function key set. If nobody wants those, I will add all black F1-F12. But mayby it is possible to add black F1 to F12 anyway. I will keep that in mind....

[theferenc]

I definitely want the function key set. But I have a POS keyboard, so I have that row of keys.

I might be the only one, though...

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

7bit,

how compatible are these kits and extras with the MO1 keyset ?

You mentioned the color scheme is the same exact; but what about the fonts is it the same ? The reason i ask is because maybe those of us from Mo1 may be interested in the kits; so hopefully the look would be consistent.


And what exactly is in these 2 kits

6. Colemak kit @ $5

7. Dvorak kit @ $8

[7bit]

7bit,

how compatible are these kits and extras with the MO1 keyset ?

You mentioned the color scheme is the same exact; but what about the fonts is it the same ?

If there is no consensus if the colors should be darker or lighter, or if the majority agrees to have the same colors again, it will be compatible to Round 1. The difference is that this time all labels are centered. It will be the same font, because
- signature has nothing else in stock (other font would be very costly)
- I like it that way;-)

It will also be the same profile. I thought about SA-profile, but they told me they can only do row 3 for Cherry switches in SA-profile.

So, if you just want the extras without the standard kit: be welcome!

Colemak and Dvorak kits contain all the additional caps needed to have these layouts, including keys with the nubs usually at F and J.

I will post all those layouts one after the other.

I definitely want the function key set. But I have a POS keyboard, so I have that row of keys.

I might be the only one, though...

Be sure, you are not alone! :-)

[7bit]

So I suppose you will ship from Germany after you'll get the package from Signature? Asking because of shipping costs later

Now comes the tricky part:

That point is not yet decided. I will need someone in the US to do the key collation job. I don't think it's a good idea to ship everything half around the planet, and then ship most of the parcels back.

Also, a big parcel will cost import duty, so I not even think it will pay out for shipping within the EU.

So shipping will be most likely the same as in Round 1.

[mkawa]

Could you please be more specific on these?

Text-only is doable.

Please notice that ⌘ or the apple-logo are most likely not available.

SP can create these, but it will cost a lot extra $$$ I'm afraid.

ideally:

Alt -> Command/Cmd (x2)
Win -> Option/Opt (x2)
Contextual Menu -> blank (x1)

Also, independent of macos, CapsLock -> Control would be nice

[pipedream]

So I skimmed this thread and couldn't find any mention about the Sprues. Will you get Signature Plastics to cast these new keys so that they have the Sprue on the back, instead of the front like last time?

Picture taken from the Round 1 thread: