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Offline stuiees

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Key feel of HHKB Pro vs Realforce 86u
« on: Wed, 29 December 2010, 14:27:57 »
I received my Realforce 86u yesterday, and had a couple hours to poke around on it.  The overall built quality appears to be superb.  I have heard others say the Realforce feels better to type on than the HHKB Pro because of the metal versus plastic backplate on the HHKB.  I think I might prefer the HHKB.  The Realforce seems to feel a bit mushier to me.  Each keystroke on the HHKB seems to be a little more defined, with more noticeable feedback while pressing the keys.  I am not sure if it is because I bottom out my keys and the feeling of bottoming out on the HHKB is different from the Realforce?  It is hard to put my finger on it exactly, but it just doesn't feel quite as snappy when I am rifling off 100 wpm.  Once, I get some time I am going to perform Ripsters "all 45g" mod as the 35g keys feel too soft for my taste.  Not sure if I am the only one who has felt this way, but it is just my initial impressions after a short time with the Realforce.
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« Reply #1 on: Wed, 29 December 2010, 18:00:00 »
I just got a variable weighted 87u in the mail this week.  Need to have some more time to warmup to it, but to me, the spacebar feels noticeably firmer than the hhkb...  both feel like I'm typing on bricks though after coming off cherry reds for any extended period of time...sigh.

My perfect keyboard would probably be something like:  hhkb size/layout w/ realforce build quality and cherry red switches ...I'll keep dreaming ;)


Now I want to try tenkeyless browns.
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Offline stuiees

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« Reply #2 on: Wed, 29 December 2010, 18:15:56 »
I think the next board I pick up will be fitted with reds.  Or even "ghetto reds" if I have to.
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« Reply #3 on: Wed, 29 December 2010, 21:19:14 »
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I just got a variable weighted 87u in the mail this week.


If you don't mind me asking, where did you order that from?

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« Reply #4 on: Wed, 29 December 2010, 23:39:11 »
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If you don't mind me asking, where did you order that from?


Wish I could point you to a store but it came from a Private sale by Metaluna (he originally had thought it was an 86).
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Offline ironman31

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« Reply #5 on: Thu, 30 December 2010, 00:07:23 »
The "mushiness" is what I thought when I got my variable weight, but the 35/30g keys are the only mushy ones imo.
Keyboards:
IBM Model M Space Saving Keyboard (Used), HHKB Pro 2 (White, Lettered), Realforce 87U all-45g in White, Filco Majestouch 2 TKL with Cherry MX Browns, Model F PC/ATNoppoo Choc Mini (MX Browns), Model F XT, IBM Model M 1397735 (bought NIB), (2) Siig Minitouch (GHSS) one with XM, one with complicated ALPs (modded),2 Dell AT101W, Cherry G80-11900HRMUS (modded with MX browns)



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« Reply #6 on: Thu, 30 December 2010, 00:56:59 »
Quote from: isp

My perfect keyboard would probably be something like:  hhkb size/layout w/ realforce build quality and cherry red switches ...I'll keep dreaming ;)


It exists... kinda. You better be Korean, have a huge wallet and don't mind red, though:

Meet the 356Mini




Offline ManjyomeThunder

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« Reply #7 on: Thu, 30 December 2010, 01:18:35 »
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It exists... kinda. You better be Korean, have a huge wallet and don't mind red, though:

Meet the 356Mini


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Offline isp

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« Reply #8 on: Thu, 30 December 2010, 01:48:37 »
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It exists... kinda. You better be Korean, have a huge wallet and don't mind red, though:

Meet the 356Mini

:love:   fuuuuuuuuuu

How can an American get one?


btw, nice avatar Manjyome :thumb:
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Offline ynih

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« Reply #9 on: Thu, 30 December 2010, 02:25:51 »
I think you can probably get one, but just ... really expensive and need to talk to them in Korean to get them to make it to your specifications..
Keyboards: (2) FKBN87MC/EB | (2) FKBN87M/EB | (1) FKBN87ML/EB | (1) FKBN87Z/EB | (1) FKBN104M/AI | (1) FKBN104MC/AI | (1) FKB104M/EB | (1) RK-9000 | (1) RF 86U SE05C0 all 45g modded | (1) HHKB 2 Pro PD-KB400W

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Offline stuiees

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« Reply #10 on: Thu, 30 December 2010, 10:46:56 »
Just out of curiousity, how much is really expensive?
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« Reply #11 on: Thu, 30 December 2010, 11:00:59 »
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Just out of curiousity, how much is really expensive?


this picture says it all

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Offline stuiees

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« Reply #12 on: Thu, 30 December 2010, 11:24:17 »
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this picture says it all

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HAH!  Thats not even a new model.  Could pick one of those up for under 100 grand.
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Offline stuiees

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« Reply #13 on: Thu, 30 December 2010, 11:31:53 »
Do Koreans accept American money?

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« Reply #14 on: Thu, 30 December 2010, 11:37:57 »
Yes, I am.

Offline stuiees

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« Reply #15 on: Thu, 30 December 2010, 11:38:55 »
Kim Jung il gives them a bad name.... Just sayin'


EDIT: I am not racist, don't want anyone to take ^ the wrong way.
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« Reply #16 on: Thu, 30 December 2010, 11:45:43 »
QUICK! Everyone pretend to be laugh before he has us executed!
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« Reply #17 on: Thu, 30 December 2010, 17:16:41 »
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No NO!

THIS picture says it all.
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