Author Topic: Leopold FC500R to be released in February (Read 17093 times)

calavera · « **on:** Tue, 25 January 2011, 21:35:12 »

Source: KBDmania

Leopold will be releasing full 104+ keyboards with four cherry switches in the future. Brown, Black, Blue, and Red. Features include nkey rollover, detachable USB cable, metal plate mounted switches. They will be commercially available by end of February in Korea.

Model name:
FC300R -> US/Korean letters
FC400R -> US/Japanese letters
FC500R -> US letters

Also available in blank keycaps.

As you can see they've made multiple versions for export. So for those looking for red switches may be you guys should wait it out to see if EK will carry them as well in the future. Just a heads up

keyboardlover · « **Reply #1 on:** Tue, 25 January 2011, 21:37:18 »

Yayyyyy cherry reds!!

Hope EK gets those.

calavera · « **Reply #2 on:** Tue, 25 January 2011, 21:39:38 »

Quote from: keyboardlover;284856

Yayyyyy cherry reds!!

Hope EK gets those.

If EK does sell Leopolds soon, I think it's safe to assume they will carry these as well since Leopold specifically build them with export in mind.

Pylon · « **Reply #3 on:** Tue, 25 January 2011, 21:43:40 »

Double shots? Reds? In Univers? Sounds great.

stuiees · « **Reply #4 on:** Tue, 25 January 2011, 21:43:42 »

yumm reds

manfaux · « **Reply #5 on:** Tue, 25 January 2011, 21:48:11 »

double shot keycaps? thats tempting, I wish there is a 87 key version of this.

Pylon · « **Reply #6 on:** Tue, 25 January 2011, 21:52:21 »

Well, it's in set in Univers, which is rather unusual these days (as everything is Arial, Helvetica or Helvetica-like, Futura, or some funky Bank Gothic-esque techno font). Probably custom job/tooling.

Also, remember they got yellow/red Esc keys from Signautre that weren't in their usual font.

keyboardlover · « **Reply #7 on:** Tue, 25 January 2011, 21:52:35 »

What color LEDs?

calavera · « **Reply #8 on:** Tue, 25 January 2011, 22:15:04 »

ah sorry guys, it looks like they're not double shot keycaps. I've mistaken it for the double shot keycap sets available separately in Korea. Sorry, they are LASER key caps.

calavera · « **Reply #9 on:** Tue, 25 January 2011, 22:17:23 »

Quote from: Pylon;284864

Double shots? Reds? In Univers? Sounds great.

Quote from: manfaux;284868

double shot keycaps? thats tempting, I wish there is a 87 key version of this.

Quote from: ripster;284871

Doubleshot keys? Interesting. They sure don't look like Signatures. Close but not quite Cherry Corps either.

Signature is gray, Cherry Corp is black
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ah sorry guys, it looks like they're not double shot keycaps. I've mistaken it for the double shot keycap sets available separately in Korea. Sorry, they are LASER key caps as far as I know. :(

ynih · « **Reply #10 on:** Tue, 25 January 2011, 23:58:34 »

Uhh...yay?

wanabe · « **Reply #11 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 00:33:16 »

i think you mean yay YAH! i'm looking forward to the red, been curious about it for a while

godofdeath · « **Reply #12 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 00:36:33 »

Quote from: calavera;284884

ah sorry guys, it looks like they're not double shot keycaps. I've mistaken it for the double shot keycap sets available separately in Korea. Sorry, they are LASER key caps as far as I know.

well i think they should bring the double shot keycap sets over here too

i would gladly pay for them if they are truly high quality

godofdeath · « **Reply #13 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 00:46:26 »

i liked the fc200 led placements, but at least these dont have big giant letters of the brand on them

i also wouldnt mind the chinese keycaps too

calavera · « **Reply #14 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 01:36:00 »

Quote from: godofdeath;284926

well i think they should bring the double shot keycap sets over here too

i would gladly pay for them if they are truly high quality

I don't think these double shots are made by Leopold. They're just a one off kit offered in Korea only. Pictured in center below. (Cherry on the left, filco on the right.)

Full 104 kit, made of ABS.

Moogle Stiltzkin · « **Reply #15 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 05:06:45 »

is the spacebar dimensions for this keyboard model same like say a filco and ducky ?

Calavera do you have any close ups for the top right part of the keyboard please.

Is the shift key same size for the ducky ?

calavera · « **Reply #16 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 05:11:35 »

Quote from: Moogle Stiltzkin;285005

is the spacebar dimensions for this keyboard model same like say a filco and ducky ?

Calavera do you have any close ups for the top right part of the keyboard please.

The tenkeyless Leopold and Filco are the same, right? If that's the case then the space bar should also be the same.

Top right as in this corner?

Moogle Stiltzkin · « **Reply #17 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 05:17:09 »

Yes thank you.

I'm not too fond of their logo, but it's not bad looking on this model.

I seriously think i am going to get this.

Should i go for Cherry mx red, or chery mx brown again

If i go red and find out i hate it, then i'd have to resell then buy the browns.

Oh no it's back to square one.

PS: is there any pictures for the back of the keyboard, sides as well as the 2 stands.

A picture of the underneath of the cap would be nice as well to get an idea how thick they are.

bakageta · « **Reply #18 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 05:48:22 »

I'd go for reds, just to try them out. You shouldn't have any problems reselling it if you don't like it, since there's no other affordable option for reds. Now, if they had a tenkeyless with reds...

Moogle Stiltzkin · « **Reply #19 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 05:52:10 »

Your obviously not from Malaysia hehe.

The mechanical keyboard fad hasn't really caught on so much.

The first thought in peoples mind is, wah so expensive just for a keyboard.

Typical Malaysian thinking hehe. But i don't blame them seeing as our minimum wage is rather low :/

Anyway theres a Malaysian distributor for the Leopold here, so i will check with him if i can try out red and brown so we will see.

itlnstln · « **Reply #20 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 07:06:41 »

I like. If EK comes with the full layout Leopolds, I'm in.

lootbag · « **Reply #21 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 07:27:34 »

Here is my excuse to finally buy a Cherry MX Red keyboard, woohoo!
Can't wait to see how these stack up against my preference for Topre switches.

bugfix · « **Reply #22 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 07:33:36 »

Why is everyone so crazy about the Reds? And weren't they discontinued or something?

Moogle Stiltzkin · « **Reply #23 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 07:41:17 »

Quote from: bugfix;285061

Why is everyone so crazy about the Reds? And weren't they discontinued or something?

From my understanding they are rare and were initially found on the Cherry G80-3494.

Later Ducky had them in mix switch keyboard.

And now other clones like Leopold etc are getting them :X

45g actuation force.

Cherry mx blacks modded to ghetto reds (using Sixty's springs) are 40g actuation force supposedly.

Personally i'm a bit wary about them since i'm not sure if they will be too light when typing. My comfort point right now is Cherry mx browns. Soon i will be able to try the Cherry mx blacks which is supposedly unpleasant for typing on for long periods. Then i can mod them to ghetto reds to get a rough feel for the reds.

ch_123 · « **Reply #24 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 07:46:45 »

Not lovin' the Unicomp-style LED label, but otherwise it seems decent.

Moogle Stiltzkin · « **Reply #25 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 07:55:36 »

Quote from: calavera;284884

ah sorry guys, it looks like they're not double shot keycaps. I've mistaken it for the double shot keycap sets available separately in Korea. Sorry, they are LASER key caps as far as I know.

Oh damn :smow:

My interest in it has dropped somewhat.

It looks like it has better lasered keys than ducky seeing as the text looks whiter and not a dirty gold look; but since i'm already using doubleshots replacements, meh.

The only thing that could get me interested in this one again is if it had USB NKRO, and the key sizes and spacebar were pretty much the same like ducky/filco. And preferably able to disable the windows key. I've made too many mistakes accidentally pressing it, but luckily my ducky saves me

keyboardlover · « **Reply #26 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 08:33:11 »

LOL @ the LED label: "Mechanical Keyboard". Really??

Vittra · « **Reply #27 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 08:37:34 »

My eyes lit up like a child upon reading Cherry MX Red. I'd kill for a tenkeyless version though. Wonder if that is a possible next step?

Moogle Stiltzkin · « **Reply #28 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 08:54:40 »

Quote from: keyboardlover;285095

LOL @ the LED label: "Mechanical Keyboard". Really??

Kinda reminds me of the plum keyboard saying POM.

O rely :roll:

sixty · « **Reply #29 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 10:38:26 »

The one in the middle is the "IOMania Double-injection keyset". I have one of those sets. I am 99,8% sure its made by SP.

Giant pics coming up:

Marks on the front of the keycap, the stem and the molding pattern are a dead giveaway, imo.

itlnstln · « **Reply #30 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 10:38:46 »

Apparently, SP made the middle key, and they are double-shot. Kriminal has a set, and when you look at the underside, it's pretty obvious.

sixty · « **Reply #31 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 10:45:13 »

Most likely IOMania just designed these entirely from scratch, meaning a vector file for every key, since it includes Hangul characters that is the most likely situation.

itlnstln · « **Reply #32 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 10:47:21 »

A set of these (minus the Hangul) would be awesome.

sixty · « **Reply #33 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 10:53:59 »

Thick double shots are pretty much dead... at least in modern designs/keycap families.

I contacted Devlin the other day and they are not doing double shot molding for the default profile anymore. They offer to laser instead now. With Cherry closing down double shot production in early 2010, this is probably the best we still can get.

Besides clickclacks keys of course.

Pylon · « **Reply #34 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 11:41:10 »

How much/how hard is it to tool double shots molds?

Back when I was interested a bit in model railroading, a guy named Gordon Cannon did all sorts of tooling for fancy model locomotive components using a pantograph thing. Granted, it was single shot and done in polystyrene, but possible.

cyberphine · « **Reply #35 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 11:49:59 »

It's not tooling, as in shaping. Most key caps are ABS or PBT, POM. Those are probably injection molded. I imagine the "double shot" refers to one mold being the letter, then the second mold surrounding the first. Not sure on all of those, but I've been researching a little. The Wiki's have plenty of good information concerning this (as pointed out to me as RTFM from Ripster

).

Regardless I'm playing around with the idea. I'm doing the 3D in blender right now. I might (depending on cost) get a prototype keyset done. Prototypes are super super super expensive though, so I also might try to DIY injection molding.

itlnstln · « **Reply #36 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 11:55:48 »

Quote from: cyberphine;285220

I imagine the "double shot" refers to one mold being the letter, then the second mold surrounding the first.

Other way around.

cyberphine · « **Reply #37 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 11:58:58 »

Quote from: itlnstln;285222

Other way around.

Oh yeah, sorry. Mold with hollow key first, then filled in. In my head that's what I was thinking.

RiGS · « **Reply #38 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 13:51:30 »

Damn nice. I wish PChome would have them in stock.

Wogrim · « **Reply #39 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 13:55:53 »

Anyone wanna tell me how typing is on reds? Haven't had to worry about deciding reds vs browns until now.

RiGS · « **Reply #40 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 14:09:07 »

I haven't tried either, but I think they should feel similarly, because typing is kind of rapid thing, and the tactility of the browns are very subtle especially when you are not focusing to feel it.

hfcobra · « **Reply #41 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 14:18:34 »

honestly, i hope this is NOT the keyboard that EK will be stocking. I really liked how the FC200R looked like in this video. I really hope it is that one that EK stocks. Nothing against reds or blacks, but i just cannot see myself ever buying a linear switch. Just seems too boring and i like the tactility on my keyboards! Plus, the upper right of this keyboard looks like it came out of the 90's

Not a fan of that design at all.

RiGS · « **Reply #42 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 14:26:21 »

Maybe it is true for RTS games.
But for games like this http://www.addictinggames.com/theworldshardestgame.html
or quake live you should reconsider this statement.

keyboardlover · « **Reply #43 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 14:27:09 »

If anyone is interested in reds, check out my review link in my Sig. IMHO, the feel is close to topre (at least the PCB mounted ones).

hfcobra · « **Reply #44 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 14:30:37 »

Quote from: RiGS;285333

Maybe it is true for RTS games.
But for games like this http://www.addictinggames.com/theworldshardestgame.html
or quake live you should reconsider this statement.

what statement are you referring to anyways? I am not sure if you are referring to mine or someone else's but i would like to know.

RiGS · « **Reply #45 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 14:30:37 »

Not just the feel, but the price..

RiGS · « **Reply #46 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 14:32:09 »

Quote from: hfcobra;285336

what statement are you referring to anyways? I am not sure if you are referring to mine or someone else's but i would like to know.

It was a reply to ripster.

Quote

You can make the same argument for Red Cherry MX versus Brown Cherry MX gaming too and then some given the heat of the moment.

hfcobra · « **Reply #47 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 14:37:32 »

ah, just making sure it wasnt mine lol. most of what i said was an opinion anyways, but i will stand with my opinion! The FC200R looks really cool and this does not even compare, plus i do believe that the reds are a very large part of the appeal, but i do not see why, i just cant see a purpose for a red switch unless you prefer it for typing. The vast majority prefers something else with tactility and the gamers will probably be split 50/50 for the reds vs the blacks. Mostly due to so many of them using blacks for so long that they will be used to them and not like the super light reds. As for me, linear is boring, too boring. It would be like typing on a rubber dome to me in terms of how enjoyable it was so i would no longer look forward to typing at my computer, defeating the whole purpose of having a mech keyboard for me.

hfcobra · « **Reply #48 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 14:39:00 »

Quote from: ripster;285342

I was going to say her hands were hawt but you never know when it's an asian poster.

yep, thats what i cant figure out with that vid..... is it a guy or girl? my hands look like that a little, but i am 6'5" so they are very large and unmistakably man because of the size.

guilleguillaume · « **Reply #49 on:** Wed, 26 January 2011, 14:42:13 »

The logo on the Keyboard from the video Looks FUGLY :/

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Author Topic: Leopold FC500R to be released in February (Read 17093 times)