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Offline 7bit

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SVG for double shot keys: How To!
« on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 08:02:05 »


Because there are so many now up for new shapes for their keys,
here are some guidelines how to the SVG graphic must look like
to meet production requirements.

When you do your SVG, then don't think of colors. Just think of the shape which has to be on the key.

If you make a yellow on black key, the black stuff in your file will be yellow in production, all the transparent stuff is the black base-material of the key.

On a 1x1 key, the maximal size a shape on the key can have, is 9.04mm wide and 10.84mm high.
« Last Edit: Tue, 08 March 2011, 08:08:06 by 7bit »
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« Reply #1 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 08:22:46 »
Thanks 7bit! I downloaded Inkscape this morning and have been having a bit of a play.
Quote from: 7bit;307554
On a 1x1 key, the maximal size a shape on the key can have, is 9.04mm wide and 10.84mm high.


How much space on a back space key?

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« Reply #2 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 08:36:57 »
Quote from: Twitchy;307564
Thanks 7bit! I downloaded Inkscape this morning and have been having a bit of a play.

How much space on a back space key?


a) Measure the width of the top of a 1x1 key from Round 1.
b) Measure the width of the top of the Backspace from Round 1.

Let a be the measure from (a),
and b be the measure from (b),
and v be the maximum width for a shape on a 1x1 key.

Then,

w:=b-(a-v)

is the maximum width for a shape on a key as described in (b).
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« Reply #3 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 10:13:16 »
Thanks. I don't have a round 1 set to measure but looking at the DCS factsheet and a bit of math gives me:

w = 27.20mm
h = 10.84mm
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« Reply #4 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 10:27:16 »














[strike]http://www.mediafire.com/file/hckeb0w40448nnv/GHBackspace.svg[/strike] FAIL
« Last Edit: Wed, 09 March 2011, 07:13:44 by Twitchy »
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« Reply #5 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 10:35:08 »
so excited!  I want an orange one.  :faint:
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« Reply #6 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 10:38:22 »
Quote from: Twitchy;307640
...
http://www.mediafire.com/file/hckeb0w40448nnv/GHBackspace.svg

^^ This is not an SVG ^^^

[SIZE=12]FAIL![/SIZE]
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« Reply #7 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 10:46:56 »
Hmm, looks like an svg file to me:



Is there more than one type? I am confuse :(




Edit: Looked again, it may have been saved as an "Inkscape SVG". I've saved it as a "plain SVG", if that doesn't work I don't know what will

[strike]http://www.mediafire.com/file/qdj88ndwypunc87/GHBackspace2.svg[/strike] FAIL

I've noticed that it's reported as a text document when I download, is that what you mean?
« Last Edit: Wed, 09 March 2011, 07:14:22 by Twitchy »
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« Reply #8 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 11:16:53 »
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« Reply #9 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 11:43:15 »
Looks like the web page of the filehost to me, I don't know why you're getting that XHTML. I've downloaded both files myself and when I open the second one in notepad I get:
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I give up. :(
« Last Edit: Tue, 08 March 2011, 11:53:17 by Twitchy »
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« Reply #10 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 12:11:00 »
I just tried downloading it too...  No luck.  It is not recognized as a normal svg.  Are you sure that you "saved" it as an svg from an image editor and not just named it that?
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« Reply #11 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 12:40:43 »
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« Reply #12 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 12:46:32 »
Quote from: Twitchy;307700
Looks like the web page of the filehost to me, I don't know why you're getting that XHTML. I've downloaded both files myself and when I open the second one in notepad I get:
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           width=&quot;121&quot;
           height=&quot;196&quot;
           x=&quot;-101&quot;
           y=&quot;-288.7323&quot;
           id=&quot;rect3604&quot; /></flowRegion><flowPara
         id=&quot;flowPara3606&quot; /></flowRoot>    <flowRoot
       transform=&quot;translate(0,1014.0945)&quot;
       id=&quot;flowRoot3608&quot;
       xml:space=&quot;preserve&quot;
       style=&quot;font-size:144px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:125%;letter-spacing:0px;word-spacing:0px;fill:#000000;fill-opacity:1;stroke:none;font-family:Simplified Arabic Fixed;-inkscape-font-specification:Simplified Arabic Fixed&quot;><flowRegion
         id=&quot;flowRegion3610&quot;><rect
           width=&quot;234&quot;
           height=&quot;254&quot;
           x=&quot;-398&quot;
           y=&quot;-328.7323&quot;
           id=&quot;rect3612&quot; /></flowRegion><flowPara
         id=&quot;flowPara3614&quot; /></flowRoot>    <flowRoot
       transform=&quot;matrix(0.155234,0,0,0.155234,-12.705914,1061.9996)&quot;
       id=&quot;flowRoot3616&quot;
       xml:space=&quot;preserve&quot;
       style=&quot;font-size:144px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:bold;font-stretch:normal;line-height:125%;letter-spacing:0px;word-spacing:0px;fill:#000000;fill-opacity:1;stroke:none;font-family:Simplified Arabic Fixed;-inkscape-font-specification:Simplified Arabic Fixed Bold&quot;><flowRegion
         id=&quot;flowRegion3618&quot;><rect
           width=&quot;155&quot;
           height=&quot;169&quot;
           x=&quot;385&quot;
           y=&quot;-312.7323&quot;
           id=&quot;rect3620&quot;
           style=&quot;font-weight:bold;-inkscape-font-specification:Simplified Arabic Fixed Bold&quot; /></flowRegion><flowPara
         id=&quot;flowPara3622&quot;>h</flowPara></flowRoot>    <flowRoot
       transform=&quot;matrix(0.155234,0,0,0.155234,173.13166,1066.455)&quot;
       id=&quot;flowRoot3624&quot;
       xml:space=&quot;preserve&quot;
       style=&quot;font-size:144px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:bold;font-stretch:normal;line-height:125%;letter-spacing:0px;word-spacing:0px;fill:#000000;fill-opacity:1;stroke:none;font-family:Simplified Arabic Fixed;-inkscape-font-specification:Simplified Arabic Fixed Bold&quot;><flowRegion
         id=&quot;flowRegion3626&quot;><rect
           width=&quot;256&quot;
           height=&quot;209&quot;
           x=&quot;-732&quot;
           y=&quot;-344.7323&quot;
           id=&quot;rect3628&quot;
           style=&quot;font-weight:bold;-inkscape-font-specification:Simplified Arabic Fixed Bold&quot; /></flowRegion><flowPara
         id=&quot;flowPara3630&quot;>a</flowPara></flowRoot>    <flowRoot
       transform=&quot;matrix(0.155234,0,0,0.155234,123.18781,1033.8166)&quot;
       id=&quot;flowRoot3632&quot;
       xml:space=&quot;preserve&quot;
       style=&quot;font-size:144px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:bold;font-stretch:normal;line-height:125%;letter-spacing:0px;word-spacing:0px;fill:#000000;fill-opacity:1;stroke:none;font-family:Simplified Arabic Fixed;-inkscape-font-specification:Simplified Arabic Fixed Bold&quot;><flowRegion
         id=&quot;flowRegion3634&quot;><rect
           width=&quot;227&quot;
           height=&quot;198&quot;
           x=&quot;-340&quot;
           y=&quot;-138.73228&quot;
           id=&quot;rect3636&quot;
           style=&quot;font-weight:bold;-inkscape-font-specification:Simplified Arabic Fixed Bold&quot; /></flowRegion><flowPara
         id=&quot;flowPara3638&quot;>c</flowPara></flowRoot>    <flowRoot
       transform=&quot;matrix(0.155234,0,0,0.155234,65.324592,1064.7698)&quot;
       id=&quot;flowRoot3584-1&quot;
       xml:space=&quot;preserve&quot;
       style=&quot;font-size:144px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:bold;font-stretch:normal;line-height:125%;letter-spacing:0px;word-spacing:0px;fill:#000000;fill-opacity:1;stroke:none;font-family:Simplified Arabic Fixed;-inkscape-font-specification:Simplified Arabic Fixed Bold&quot;><flowRegion
         id=&quot;flowRegion3586-1&quot;><rect
           width=&quot;266&quot;
           height=&quot;245&quot;
           x=&quot;-355&quot;
           y=&quot;-334.7323&quot;
           id=&quot;rect3588-5&quot;
           style=&quot;font-weight:bold;-inkscape-font-specification:Simplified Arabic Fixed Bold&quot; /></flowRegion><flowPara
         id=&quot;flowPara3590-9&quot;>e</flowPara></flowRoot>    <flowRoot
       transform=&quot;matrix(0.155234,0,0,0.155234,11.289488,1061.9473)&quot;
       id=&quot;flowRoot3592-0&quot;
       xml:space=&quot;preserve&quot;
       style=&quot;font-size:144px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:bold;font-stretch:normal;line-height:125%;letter-spacing:0px;word-spacing:0px;fill:#000000;fill-opacity:1;stroke:none;font-family:Simplified Arabic Fixed;-inkscape-font-specification:Simplified Arabic Fixed Bold&quot;><flowRegion
         id=&quot;flowRegion3594-8&quot;><rect
           width=&quot;315&quot;
           height=&quot;314&quot;
           x=&quot;142&quot;
           y=&quot;-321.7323&quot;
           id=&quot;rect3596-3&quot;
           style=&quot;font-weight:bold;-inkscape-font-specification:Simplified Arabic Fixed Bold&quot; /></flowRegion><flowPara
         id=&quot;flowPara3598-8&quot;>k</flowPara></flowRoot>  </g>
</svg>

I give up. :(


This is an SVG alright, just not what you've got in mind.  It is a rectangle with 7/8 in black and 1/8 in transparent.

Maybe there is something missing.

Just make a zip-file out of it and attach it to your post.
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« Reply #13 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 12:51:20 »
I've got a great idea!

Why don't all you guys put your money together and buy bugfix his keyboard of choice and he will help you doing those SVG graphics?
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« Reply #14 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:18:56 »
There's something in the Inkscape FAQs about implementation of flowed text in different SVG specifications that I don't really understand but I think the recommended steps have fixed things (fingers crossed). I have attached my 4th attempt (when I couldn't attach an SVG it never occurred to me to zip it). I can see it in opera and firefox, so hopefully 4th time's a charm.

Edit: Fail! Attachment removed.
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« Reply #15 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:27:05 »
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There's something in the Inkscape FAQs about implementation of flowed text in different SVG specifications that I don't really understand but I think the recommended steps have fixed things (fingers crossed). I have attached my 4th attempt (when I couldn't attach an SVG it never occurred to me to zip it). I can see it in opera and firefox, so hopefully 4th time's a charm.


OK, it works.

Now you need to figure out how to make it in typewriter font as in your sample images...

PS: It would look much better, if there where more gap between geek and hack and if there where no gap between gee and k.

Currently it is like "geek hac  k" .
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« Reply #16 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:43:11 »
What about a complete 104 set with good typography? I.e. send svg Helvetica or Univers instead of that default Signature font.

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« Reply #17 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:43:11 »
Yeah, the numbers I quoted are for the area of the keytop that can be used for a doubleshot legend. Not another fail today please, I don't think I can take it!
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« Reply #18 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:53:37 »
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Yeah, the numbers I quoted are for the area of the keytop that can be used for a doubleshot legend. Not another fail today please, I don't think I can take it!


no failure! i measured the gap between edge and text on the back space key: my formula is correct.
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« Reply #19 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 13:53:55 »
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OK, it works.

Now you need to figure out how to make it in typewriter font as in your sample images...

PS: It would look much better, if there where more gap between geek and hack and if there where no gap between gee and k.

Currently it is like "geek hac  k" .

Ok, so when I open it in Firefox and zoom in using using CTRL and mouse wheel I see:



..not what you're describing. I got everything as close as I could whilst leaving 0.5mm gap. The SVG was created using a font in Inkscape (not created from scratch) perhaps your software doesn't support that font? If that's the case SP could have a problem too.
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« Reply #20 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 14:03:12 »
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Ok, so when I open it in Firefox and zoom in using using CTRL and mouse wheel I see:

Show Image


..not what you're describing. I got everything as close as I could whilst leaving 0.5mm gap. The SVG was created using a font in Inkscape (not created from scratch) perhaps your software doesn't support that font? If that's the case SP could have a problem too.


Did you make changes to the file?
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« Reply #21 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 14:05:41 »
Nope. Exactly as downloaded from my earlier post.
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« Reply #22 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 14:12:41 »
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Nope. Exactly as downloaded from my earlier post.


It is not a proper SVG as we need it:
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...
<flowRoot
       transform=&quot;translate(0,1014.0945)&quot;
       id=&quot;flowRoot3600&quot;
       xml:space=&quot;preserve&quot;
       style=&quot;font-size:144px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:125%;letter-spacing:0px;word-spacing:0px;fill:#000000;fill-opacity:1;stroke:none;font-family:Simplified Arabic Fixed;-inkscape-font-specification:Simplified Arabic Fixed&quot;><flowRegion
         id=&quot;flowRegion3602&quot;>
...


Do you recognise the word "font"?

You did not an SVG with shapes formed out of polygons, but just used characters!

The font is "Simplified Arabic Fixed" which is surely not installed on my system!

It is a True Type Font, availabe here:

http://cooltext.com/Download-Font-Simplified+Arabic+Fixed

Edit:
I'm quite sure that your default font is that typewriter font and that arabic stuff is not availabe on your system either ...

The only way out is to create it as proper shapes ...
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« Reply #23 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 14:33:20 »
Yes I recognise the word font, I used it twice in the post you quoted 25 minutes ago where I explained that I didn't create the SVG from scratch.

I don't know what the problem is. I can open the file in Mozilla on two different machines (Win 7 with Inkscape and Vista without Inkscape) and it looks fine. I get the feeling that you think either I'm a moron or that I'm trolling you (neither of which I can do anything about) and unless anyone else can open the file and back me up then I guess that I'll just have to live with it. :/

Edit: I certainly don't want to fall out with anyone over it. :)
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« Reply #24 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 14:37:20 »
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Yes I recognise the word font, I used it twice in the post you quoted 25 minutes ago where I explained that I didn't create the SVG from scratch.

I don't know what the problem is. I can open the file in Mozilla on two different machines (Win 7 with Inkscape and Vista without Inkscape) and it looks fine. I get the feeling that you think either I'm a moron or that I'm trolling you (neither of which I can do anything about) and unless anyone else can open the file and back me up then I guess that I'll just have to live with it. :/


Typical Windows user problem.

Sorry for that, but it is as it is.

In your SVG it says: use this font.

But:  In your SVG is no such font.

It is maybe or maybe not on your computer.

It is surely not on my computer. So my default setting is being used.
It is most presumably not on the computer used to make the double shot tool!!!

You can't assume that, even if Melissa sees it like you see it.

In the worst case, you get weired stuff on your key.


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I think the problem is you have to convert the letters to paths.  ShiftCtrlC.

But I'm no expert - I looked it up here.

For a tutorial the teacher is a bit rude.  I'd hate to go to school in Germany.


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« Reply #25 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 14:43:50 »
SVG with text converted to path: http://fkphoto.de/stuff/GHBackspace4.svg
Is this what's needed?
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« Reply #26 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 14:49:11 »
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SVG with text converted to path: http://fkphoto.de/stuff/GHBackspace4.svg
Is this what's needed?


Make the same thing out of bolder letters and it is perfect!
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« Reply #27 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 14:52:13 »
Sorry, wasn't quite clear on the size requirements. Does it need to be within the bounds of the actual keysize or will they get scaled down if the SVG dimensions are pretty large?

I think mines pretty gigantic but still trying to figure out how to scale it down appropriately.
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« Reply #28 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 14:55:29 »
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SVG with text converted to path: http://fkphoto.de/stuff/GHBackspace4.svg
Is this what's needed?


Thanks!

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Make the same thing out of bolder letters and it is perfect!


Found the "Object to Path" option. Done!?
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« Reply #29 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 14:56:46 »
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Sorry, wasn't quite clear on the size requirements. Does it need to be within the bounds of the actual keysize or will they get scaled down if the SVG dimensions are pretty large?

I think mines pretty gigantic but still trying to figure out how to scale it down appropriately.


Absolutely perfect!

I will post some versions how it will look on a key.
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« Reply #30 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 14:59:27 »
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Thanks!
Found the "Object to Path" option. Done!?


OK, looks perfect to me.



Its name will be the most obvious:

GEEKHACKcolor

Now we need to know which color(s) it should have!
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« Reply #31 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 15:07:33 »
I've modified the radiation symbol to exactly fit the 9.04x10.84mm size requirements you gave and to have the necessary clearances and minimum feature size. Naturally, there were some compromises given the constraints, but I think it came out OK. I did this one first because it was the simplest, but I can do things like the skull or union jack when I have more time.
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« Reply #32 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 15:12:10 »
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Sorry, wasn't quite clear on the size requirements. Does it need to be within the bounds of the actual keysize or will they get scaled down if the SVG dimensions are pretty large?

I think mines pretty gigantic but still trying to figure out how to scale it down appropriately.


They will be scaled down to the size of the surface where a shape can be insert-moded into the key.

I post a pic....
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« Reply #33 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 15:20:40 »
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Now we need to know which color(s) it should have!


Quote from: Twitchy;307640
Show Image


Show Image


Show Image


Show Image


Show Image


I think I'd be happy with any of these.
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« Reply #34 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 15:22:16 »
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They will be scaled down to the size of the surface where a shape can be insert-moded into the key.

I post a pic....




Size is perfect!

It is as large as the Windows logo, or as the Diamond.
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« Reply #35 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 15:25:12 »
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I think I'd be happy with any of these.


GHRED


GHBLACK


GHORANGEONBLACK


GHORANGE


GHBLACKONORANGE


I must ask for a price for these....
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« Reply #36 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 15:32:35 »
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Size is perfect!

It is as large as the Windows logo, or as the Diamond.


Oh wow, that looks great. I'll get this posted to the original custom key case.

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« Reply #37 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 17:12:26 »
Bummer, looks like the SVG file contains an embedded image (I'm not too familiar with the properties of a SVG).

Anyone have insight on how to just get a standard SVG that contains no font/image?
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« Reply #38 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 17:14:43 »
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Bummer, looks like the SVG file contains an embedded image (I'm not too familiar with the properties of a SVG).

Anyone have insight on how to just get a standard SVG that contains no font/image?


What did you use to make it?

Maybe there is an 'Object to Path' option ...

Quote from: ripster;307865
I think the problem is you have to convert the letters to paths.  ShiftCtrlC.

But I'm no expert - I looked it up here.

For a tutorial the teacher is a bit rude.  I'd hate to go to school in Germany.


Do you use inkscape?
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« Reply #39 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 17:37:38 »
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Bummer, looks like the SVG file contains an embedded image (I'm not too familiar with the properties of a SVG).

Anyone have insight on how to just get a standard SVG that contains no font/image?


I exported the SVG as a bitmap, imported the bitmap into a new SVG, traced the bitmap and finally deleted it leaving the paths. Looks ok to me but then that's not the first time that I've said that!
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« Reply #40 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 17:40:11 »
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I exported the SVG as a bitmap, imported the bitmap into a new SVG, traced the bitmap and finally deleted it leaving the paths. Looks ok to me but then that's not the first time that I've said that!


OK, looks good!

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« Reply #41 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 17:48:12 »
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I exported the SVG as a bitmap, imported the bitmap into a new SVG, traced the bitmap and finally deleted it leaving the paths. Looks ok to me but then that's not the first time that I've said that!


Oh wow, great stuff. Thanks!
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« Reply #42 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 20:39:14 »
I thought that SP only did certain fonts because new ones require additional tooling costs.  Could you hypothetically create new SVGs for each key and create a whole new font?  If so, what would be the difference and would it result in higher costs?

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« Reply #43 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 20:48:19 »
interesting...leopold supposedly did it through SP also..

http://leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1240381976

I woudln't mind another group buy with a more "boring" set that looks closer to an IBM or cherry font

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« Reply #44 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 20:49:28 »
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I woudln't mind another group buy with a more "boring" set that looks closer to an IBM or cherry font


Whoah, whoah! Let's not get ahead of ourselves, round 3 hasn't even shipped yet! I'm thinking 2014 for round 4...

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« Reply #45 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 21:33:06 »
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I think I'd be happy with any of these.


I personally like the orange on black one, black on orange seems kind of.. conspicuous.

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« Reply #46 on: Wed, 09 March 2011, 00:51:01 »
I would like to see this GH key in orange on GX (Very Dark Gray; Standard kits modifier keys).
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« Reply #47 on: Wed, 09 March 2011, 03:15:32 »
I will be in for one White on orange and for one white on Light blue to match the 2 gaming sets.

I need to reach the 250 keycaps limit of the Package! I think with KEYBOARDLOVER I'm now at 240.

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« Reply #48 on: Wed, 09 March 2011, 04:49:21 »
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I've modified the radiation symbol to exactly fit the 9.04x10.84mm size requirements you gave and to have the necessary clearances and minimum feature size. Naturally, there were some compromises given the constraints, but I think it came out OK. I did this one first because it was the simplest, but I can do things like the skull or union jack when I have more time.




OK, the tape-drive button looks great!

Who makes the washing-machine,  punched card and 8" floppy buttons?

PS: which key, which color?
« Last Edit: Wed, 09 March 2011, 04:57:17 by 7bit »
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« Reply #49 on: Wed, 09 March 2011, 05:12:33 »
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I will be in for one White on orange and for one white on Light blue to match the 2 gaming sets.

I wish I'd made the SVG earlier then we could have made them part of the gamer sets, maybe the standard set too.
« Last Edit: Wed, 09 March 2011, 12:00:33 by Twitchy »
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