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« on: Sat, 21 May 2011, 10:58:17 »
Ripster revealed to the people on Deskthority that if you visit the Unicomp home page:

http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/

you will see that they have an exciting new product for Macintosh users!

A Mac can't just use any old USB keyboard for the PC, including a USB version of the Customizer, and, similarly, USB keyboards for the Mac don't work on the PC, because a small number of keys have different scan codes because of the Microsoft standard and the different functions they serve.

What with the upcoming announcement from Apple that it's going to reinvent the Mac platform - and the trepidation I have concerning it, given that they've already started pushing Mac software vendors towards the App Store, even if on different terms than the iPad - I fear this is too late. It would have been one thing that would have made me more amenable to considering a Mac, but I'm beginning to think that even the conversion to the Intel Mac and the availability of Boot Camp is no longer enough.

It's too bad that major retooling would be required for a keyboard for Sun workstations, because their layout requires four extra keys above the numeric keypad, ten keys out to the left of the keyboard like on a 122-key keyboard, and a help key above those - but if the HHKB can serve all three platforms, something less than a full-sized keyboard might be possible.

Still, even if it's not the tenkeyless that many here would have preferred to see from Unicomp, it will bring buckling springs to a new audience, and I think they will sell quite a few.

I presume the retooling was minimal - but they did have to add the extra key position on the numeric keypad, available on the 101-key design for terminal keyboards, to the 104-key design, unless, of course, it was there all along. 104-key Space Saver owners can remove the + key on the numeric keypad to find out, I guess - although the stabilizer might be there even if there's no pad on the membrane.

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« Reply #1 on: Sat, 21 May 2011, 13:51:28 »
Pretty old news. The recoiling in horror has long since ceased.

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I presume the retooling was minimal - but they did have to add the extra key position on the numeric keypad, available on the 101-key design for terminal keyboards, to the 104-key design, unless, of course, it was there all along. 104-key Space Saver owners can remove the + key on the numeric keypad to find out, I guess - although the stabilizer might be there even if there's no pad on the membrane.


Yeah, the membranes tend to have contacts for everything. Cuts down on their costs.
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« Reply #2 on: Sat, 21 May 2011, 13:59:30 »
After Regan and the Bushes claimed Irish heritage, we desperately needed a new image.

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« Reply #3 on: Sat, 21 May 2011, 14:20:16 »
I've noticed you posting here more. Makes sense since there's nothing going on at deskborefest.nap.

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« Reply #4 on: Sat, 21 May 2011, 15:04:49 »
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I've noticed you posting here more. Makes sense since there's nothing going on at deskborefest.nap.
thats cruel

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« Reply #5 on: Sat, 21 May 2011, 15:13:34 »
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Pretty old news. The recoiling in horror has long since ceased.
Ah, so maybe I didn't dig deep enough for the thread that contained it.

While I might recoil in horror from what the Mac seems to be becoming, I found this to be joyful news.

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« Reply #6 on: Sat, 21 May 2011, 15:34:20 »
Actually, you can use any keyboard with Windows keys on a Mac, just fine.

The scan code for the Windows key is the same as the scan code for the Command key. The scan code for the Alt key is the same as the scan code for the option key. So, with this (shamelessly stolen from ZDNet):



You get keys working correctly.

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« Reply #7 on: Sat, 21 May 2011, 15:40:26 »
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I've noticed you posting here more. Makes sense since there's nothing going on at deskborefest.nap.

 
Ah Keyboardlover, as butthurt as ever.

Probably back from Catholic mass so...

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« Reply #8 on: Sat, 21 May 2011, 15:41:23 »
Not butthurt at all actually. What gave you that impression?

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« Reply #9 on: Sun, 22 May 2011, 04:03:33 »
The fact that you're mean to them.

Although I can certainly see why after seeing that one offtopic thread over there. Based on that alone, it seems deserved.
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« Reply #10 on: Sun, 22 May 2011, 09:09:44 »
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Actually, you can use any keyboard with Windows keys on a Mac, just fine.

The scan code for the Windows key is the same as the scan code for the Command key. The scan code for the Alt key is the same as the scan code for the option key.
But apparently F13 is not Print Screen, F14 is not Scroll Lock, and F15 is not Pause.

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« Reply #11 on: Sun, 22 May 2011, 09:19:05 »
It's my understanding that those keys typically remain unmapped anyway, though.