Keyboards of SC2 Pros!

[jpz]

I find it kinda interesting how none of the pros use the naga.  I thought the macro buttons on the mouse like flaming_june said would be very helpful

[Lanx]

are macro's allowed in SC tournaments?

[HaveANiceDay]

Macros are a convenience for lazy or slow people. After a certain point, they get more in the way than help. That's why professional players don't need them.

[Chobopants]

are macro's allowed in SC tournaments?

Pretty sure the answer is no.

I wonder if SC2 pros complain when their Filco spacebars get shiny?

They'd be complaining within a game or two if so! Imsto could make a lot of money off of them.

[Zet]

Yes, like Chobopants said, Macros and any simillar things are not allowed on tournaments, and also banned by blizzard, if they ever find you have them working while playing.

[vun]

Yes, like Chobopants said, Macros and any simillar things are not allowed on tournaments, and also banned by blizzard, if they ever find you have them working while playing.

 
I believe they have a system to detect use of macros. Of course, you can use the macro keys, but I don't think you can assign more than one or two keypresses to a single macro key. I know for sure you can assign a single keystroke to a single macro key, not sure if you can go higher.
Even Razer's official SC2 board has macro keys.

[Lanx]

do they just make sure that the macro drivers aren't installed or something? cuz like the coolermaster mice(sentinel/inferno) can load the macros to flashfirmware and not require software.

[flaming_june]

are macro's allowed in SC tournaments?

Not at all.

You don't have to use macros to use the keys on the Naga.  All it's use for is so that your main thumb controls the 8,9,0 hotkeys instead or using your left hand and having to reach all the way to the right to use them.  This gives you much more quicker control when playing.  I use 1-4 for units, 4,5,6 for 3 observers or observers and prisms, 7 (on naga mouse) for single or groups of workers, and 8,9,0 on the mouse for buildings.  

No macros used, just less left hand movement and quicker control groups control.

[vun]

do they just make sure that the macro drivers aren't installed or something? cuz like the coolermaster mice(sentinel/inferno) can load the macros to flashfirmware and not require software.

 
From what I gathered I think they look at how many actions are performed compared to input. If the client registers one keystroke but several in-game actions it alerts Blizz that someone's using macro combinations. I think they have the same in WoW, although binding 3-4 keystrokes to a single macro isn't really an issue there, the macro detection in WoW is to prevent people creating extensive macros that are effectively bots.

Might be completely off, but this is what I got out of my research on the subject.

Edit: And about the Naga, now that I think about it I could actually use one. I rarely use control groups past 6 because they're so far away from the main cluster.

[david]

Even if you threw in a few macro-key uses, the B.Net system in place can detect the spikes in your APM. Since there is more than a single action occuring nearly simultaneously you'd essentially go from a standard APM to a sudden spike of 11,000 (something like that.)

[Zet]

I believe they have a system to detect use of macros. Of course, you can use the macro keys, but I don't think you can assign more than one or two keypresses to a single macro key. I know for sure you can assign a single keystroke to a single macro key, not sure if you can go higher.
Even Razer's official SC2 board has macro keys.

 
Yes, Blizzard says (about SC2), one key stroke, one action, so yeah, you can bind the naga keys to the numbers, or letters, nothing else. And for the most I love my Naga keys, having a faster left hand is faster than having a fast right thumb, mainly cause when you use the Naga keys you will not be moving the mouse, which is a big deal.

[david]

Yeah, I wouldn't want to have that many controls on my mouse either.

However, a Terran friend of mine suggested I try this: bind one of his mouse keys to 'siege mode' and the other to 'stim'. I thought those were valid options as in the heat of the battle you can hit those easily without forgetting.

[Mazora]

I do not agree.

people have a good ideea what keyboards sc pros use but not so much about the mice , i m curios because the mouse is heavly used as well for uber fast clicking. If you have mouse info plz include that as well

[Zet]

I know this is kind of going more off the topic, but does more expensive mouses have better switches for the clicks? perhaps more responsive, or durable? or mainly they are all the same? I'm thinking about opening my naga, and replace the switch... with another one from a cheap mouse or the right click of a good mouse. Could someone point me in the right direction as for where to look for guidance doing this?

Thanks a lot!

[noodles256]

if they ban macros, they should ban koreans

[Lester]

Hah, the best Caucasian Starcraft players had stem cell transfusions in Korea.

lol.

[HaveANiceDay]

That explains idra's stay in Korea!

[vun]

That explains idra's stay in Korea!

 
Doesn't explain why he got thrown out, though.
What does explain it, however, is the 9000 page report on his behaviour.

[flaming_june]

Yeah, I wouldn't want to have that many controls on my mouse either.

However, a Terran friend of mine suggested I try this: bind one of his mouse keys to 'siege mode' and the other to 'stim'. I thought those were valid options as in the heat of the battle you can hit those easily without forgetting.

Yup, in fact, one of my mouse button on Naga is H for hold, some are f2-5 for saved quick pan areas.

Better mouse, sometimes have more durable click buttons, but not always.  A lot about mouses are just hype rather than how good it is.  For example, the naga's sensor is subpar (same sensor as the rat7-9, mamba)

[strum4h]

I was at mlg colombus and Losira's keyboard broke. Twice. Should have gone with a mechanical.

[sixty]

Speaking of macros. Big drama over here.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=231856