Author Topic: May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?  (Read 7386 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline nhwhaup

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 230
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« on: Fri, 12 August 2011, 14:28:25 »
I'm not a gamer or a programmer but joined this forum a few months ago to get some tips on finding a good feeling/sounding keyboard.  And then the ongoing purchases started.........:crazy: So my question to the group is - what is the relevance of the "red" escape key?  Is it a gamer or a programmer thing?
Current in order of preference:  RealForce 87U Silent White with variable weighted keys X 2, Filco Majestouch 2 Tenkeyless with Linear Reds, Filco Number-pad, Poker with Linear Reds

Sold or returned:  Multiple Microsoft and Logitech keyboards, Das Keyboard Silent, Cherry 6140, RealForce 103UB, RealForce 86U, Filco Majestouch 2 full sized with Linear Reds

Offline aggiejy

  • ** Moderator Emeritus
  • Posts: 1126
  • Location: ~Austin, Texas
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 12 August 2011, 14:38:21 »
Kind of like fire alarms, escape hatches, etc... all red.  Esc key should be red too then. :)

Otherwise, no particular reason.

Offline nhwhaup

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 230
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 12 August 2011, 14:43:35 »
Thanks guys!  

Now what about the WASD keys?
Current in order of preference:  RealForce 87U Silent White with variable weighted keys X 2, Filco Majestouch 2 Tenkeyless with Linear Reds, Filco Number-pad, Poker with Linear Reds

Sold or returned:  Multiple Microsoft and Logitech keyboards, Das Keyboard Silent, Cherry 6140, RealForce 103UB, RealForce 86U, Filco Majestouch 2 full sized with Linear Reds

Offline nhwhaup

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 230
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 12 August 2011, 14:49:48 »
you are too funny!
Current in order of preference:  RealForce 87U Silent White with variable weighted keys X 2, Filco Majestouch 2 Tenkeyless with Linear Reds, Filco Number-pad, Poker with Linear Reds

Sold or returned:  Multiple Microsoft and Logitech keyboards, Das Keyboard Silent, Cherry 6140, RealForce 103UB, RealForce 86U, Filco Majestouch 2 full sized with Linear Reds

Offline calavera

  • Posts: 1713
  • Location: South Korea
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 12 August 2011, 15:07:28 »
It's just adding some bling to the keyboard; makes for a nice contrast. Kinda like cuff links. lol

Offline Arcanius

  • Posts: 288
  • Location: All over Canada
  • Buckling Spring Lover
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 12 August 2011, 15:41:59 »
Well, you could say the WASD have relevance, since most FPS games bind to WASD for movement.
A gamer in the dark may be able to spot his WSAD from the colour contrasting with all the other black.
There may be a practical purpose to the WSAD keys being a different colour, but the red Esc.... I don't think so.
However, I love the look of a red Esc, not of coloured WSAD keys. :P

Yes, I usually say WSAD, seems more logical. Forward back left right.
« Last Edit: Fri, 12 August 2011, 15:44:23 by Arcanius »

Offline Oqsy

  • Posts: 861
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 12 August 2011, 15:46:23 »
Ripster,  you fill a very specific role and changing would leave a void that no one else here can fill. Except maybe the Stallion with his Italian sausauge.
[sigpic]Currently in use: Rosewill RK9000 and CH DT225[/sigpic]
"Private misfortunes make for public welfare."

Offline theferenc

  • Posts: 1327
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 12 August 2011, 16:34:02 »
For me it's a combination of the "big red button" and the simple fact that it adds a splash of color to my keyboard. Just something to stand out, add a bit of snap to it.
HHKB Pro 2 -- Custom UNIX layout Unicomp Customizer 101 -- IBM Model M 1391401 (modded to UNIX layout) -- IBM 1397000 (also UNIX layout) -- SSK in UNIX layout -- Model F 122 key in UNIX layout (Soarer USB "native")
 
CST L-TracX trackball -- Kensington Expert Mouse trackball

Offline Arcanius

  • Posts: 288
  • Location: All over Canada
  • Buckling Spring Lover
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 12 August 2011, 16:38:33 »
Big red button....
Red Spacebar anybody? :D

Offline theferenc

  • Posts: 1327
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 12 August 2011, 16:48:19 »
But it's supposed to do potentially bad things! And space bar is used too commonly to meet the criteria.
HHKB Pro 2 -- Custom UNIX layout Unicomp Customizer 101 -- IBM Model M 1391401 (modded to UNIX layout) -- IBM 1397000 (also UNIX layout) -- SSK in UNIX layout -- Model F 122 key in UNIX layout (Soarer USB "native")
 
CST L-TracX trackball -- Kensington Expert Mouse trackball

Offline mtl

  • Posts: 180
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 12 August 2011, 21:41:38 »
Quote from: Arcanius;397926
Big red button....
Red Spacebar anybody? :D

« Last Edit: Sat, 13 August 2011, 06:56:45 by mtl »
MX13 SpaceSaver | Phantom | Tactoblack Filco -10 | Realforce 103U-UW | Variable Clicky Deck 82 | Deck Legend

Offline WasabiJ

  • Posts: 14
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 12 August 2011, 23:04:14 »
Quote from: Arcanius;397898
Well, you could say the WASD have relevance, since most FPS games bind to WASD for movement.
A gamer in the dark may be able to spot his WSAD from the colour contrasting with all the other black.
There may be a practical purpose to the WSAD keys being a different colour, but the red Esc.... I don't think so.

Yes, I usually say WSAD, seems more logical. Forward back left right.


ESDF ftw!

WASD ftl!

My reasons I feel ESDF is superior:  F has the tactile dot, which can always be under your pointer; ESDF does not require "shifting" your homerow positions; ESDF leaves the same amount of accessibility to Shift, Caps, Tab, and Ctrl/Alt keys, but also allows another set of binds to Q, A, and Z, also accessible now without moving your position.

More binds, more natural position, and quicker no-look acquisition... it's a win-win.

Offline squarebox

  • Posts: 608
  • Location: Singapore
  • In Omnia Paratus
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 12 August 2011, 23:31:18 »
Quote from: mtl;398028
Show Image

What is this ? the next Miniguru ?
Filco Yellow Edition  | Filco Brown | Filco 2 Brown TKL | G80-1950 | G80-3494 | G80-11900 | Leopold FC500R | Noppoo Choc Mini

Offline litster

  • Posts: 2890
  • rare caps?! THAT'S A SMILIN
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 13 August 2011, 00:26:07 »
I want an ESC key that says "Easy", just like Staple's red Easy button.

Offline elbowglue

  • Posts: 583
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 13 August 2011, 02:09:22 »
Quote from: mtl;398028
Show Image

Ok I need this keyboard.  The one thing it is missing is a scroll wheel, maybe stick it in the middle below the two buttons.
My keyboards: Filco Cherry Blue Tenkeyless(daily home), Compaq MX11800 (modded to blacks), Compaq "MX 84u",  Wellington\'s Dampened Endurapro, Pinkalicious Filco Blue Cherry, Chicony KB-5191, Chicony KB-5181, Desko MOS 5023 UP "elbowglue" spos (modded to blues), Siig Minitouch (monterey blue), SMK-88 (blue cherries), Ricercar SPOS
Smallest to biggest keyboards in inches (Length X Height) - Length is most important for a midline mouse position

KBC Poker: 11.6 x 3.9 - HHKB: 11.6 x 4.3 - Siig Minitouch (Geekhack Space Saver): 11.6 x 6 - Deck/Tg3 82: 12 x 6 - Noppoo Choc Mini 12.4 x 5.3 - Compaq "MX 84u": 13.1 x 7.5 - Filco Tenkeyless: 14 x 5.3 - Cherry "ricercar spos" G86-62410EUAGSA: 14 x 7.75 - Topre Realforce 86u: 14.4 x 6.65 - Desko "elbowglue spos" MOS 5023 UP: 14.5 x 8.4 - IBM Model M Spacesaver: 15.3 x 7 - G80-1800: 15.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-125B: 16 x 7.3 - Compaq Mx11800, Cherry G80-11900: 16.25 x 7.5 - Filco Standard: 17.3 x 5.4 - Unicomp Endurapro: 17.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-135B: 18.3 x 6.0 - Cherry G80-3000: 18.5 x 7.6 - IBM Model M, Unicomp Customizer: 19.3 x 8.27

Offline litster

  • Posts: 2890
  • rare caps?! THAT'S A SMILIN
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 01:11:44 »
I like the ESCAPERED key from Group Buy 3:



Click the picture below to see the super macro close up!

[ Attachment Invalid Or Does Not Exist ] 24223[/ATTACH]

Offline Oqsy

  • Posts: 861
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 09:46:48 »
Is he pooping a box and a dead snake?
[sigpic]Currently in use: Rosewill RK9000 and CH DT225[/sigpic]
"Private misfortunes make for public welfare."

Offline Input Nirvana

  • Master of the Calculated Risk
  • Posts: 2316
  • Location: Somewhere in the San Francisco Bay area/Best Coast
  • If I tell ya, I'll hafta kill ya
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 09:53:18 »
Quote from: Oqsy;398699
Is he pooping a box and a dead snake?

Morning latte, beach, pets....and that last 'poop' post.

What a morning :)

P.S.- Could be a tapeworm?
Kinesis Advantage cut into 2 halves | RollerMouse Free 2 | Apple Magic Trackpad | Colemak
Evil Screaming Flying Door Monkeys From Hell                     Proudly GeekWhacking since 2009
Things change, things stay the same                                        Thanks much, Smallfry  
I AM THE REAPER . . . BECAUSE I KILL IT
~retired from forum activities 2015~

Offline Input Nirvana

  • Master of the Calculated Risk
  • Posts: 2316
  • Location: Somewhere in the San Francisco Bay area/Best Coast
  • If I tell ya, I'll hafta kill ya
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 09:58:01 »
If you see a penis, you're jealous.
Kinesis Advantage cut into 2 halves | RollerMouse Free 2 | Apple Magic Trackpad | Colemak
Evil Screaming Flying Door Monkeys From Hell                     Proudly GeekWhacking since 2009
Things change, things stay the same                                        Thanks much, Smallfry  
I AM THE REAPER . . . BECAUSE I KILL IT
~retired from forum activities 2015~

Offline litster

  • Posts: 2890
  • rare caps?! THAT'S A SMILIN
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 10:58:45 »
Take notice that it is highly textured from the close up shot.  The feel is good.  Pleasure is ensured.

Offline litster

  • Posts: 2890
  • rare caps?! THAT'S A SMILIN
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 11:11:04 »
Thanks ripster!  I bought this LED flash/light thing for $26 from Hong Kong on eBay.  It is cheap and cheaply made.  But it does a good job.  Finally I can make good use of my 100mm macro lens and all 21 megapixels on my camera.

Offline RC-1140

  • Posts: 86
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 11:15:36 »
What flash is that? I'm still looking for a cheap macro flash for my camera.

btw, I think that a red escape button is just a cool way to personalize your keyboard. And of course the big red button (these things are known as GRK in germany, Großer Roter Knopf) which just looks evil.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Unicomp 122-Key Terminal Emulator - IBM Model M 1394309 - IBM Model M 1394312 (Terminal) - Cherry G84-4100 - Cherry G80-1800 MX Black - Cherry G80-2551HAD (with a spare NIB)

Offline Oqsy

  • Posts: 861
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 11:29:03 »
I expect YMCA was blasting while you set that pic up.
[sigpic]Currently in use: Rosewill RK9000 and CH DT225[/sigpic]
"Private misfortunes make for public welfare."

Offline RC-1140

  • Posts: 86
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 11:30:15 »
Honestly Ripster, did you just take this picture or do you have a giant archive full of pictures fitting for every occasion? And what is it with you and the Lego?
And this LED Ring really looks cheap. I guess I could solder something like this together in some minutes.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Unicomp 122-Key Terminal Emulator - IBM Model M 1394309 - IBM Model M 1394312 (Terminal) - Cherry G84-4100 - Cherry G80-1800 MX Black - Cherry G80-2551HAD (with a spare NIB)

Offline RC-1140

  • Posts: 86
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 11:32:49 »
Well, I do like Lego. Have you ever been in Legoland in Billund, Denmark? That's cool! And you get cheap Lego, as it's produced there!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Unicomp 122-Key Terminal Emulator - IBM Model M 1394309 - IBM Model M 1394312 (Terminal) - Cherry G84-4100 - Cherry G80-1800 MX Black - Cherry G80-2551HAD (with a spare NIB)

Offline RC-1140

  • Posts: 86
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 11:40:00 »
Lol! That really looks bad.
But I really like Lego, it's like playing miniature Minecraft in Real-life. Hmm, maybe I should make a Lego mod for Minecraft...

[ Attachment Invalid Or Does Not Exist ] 24250[/ATTACH]
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Unicomp 122-Key Terminal Emulator - IBM Model M 1394309 - IBM Model M 1394312 (Terminal) - Cherry G84-4100 - Cherry G80-1800 MX Black - Cherry G80-2551HAD (with a spare NIB)

Offline Arcanius

  • Posts: 288
  • Location: All over Canada
  • Buckling Spring Lover
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 11:43:16 »
Red Pause/Break key. That one does more important things.
or Ctrl-C. I use that one often enough. Once ran a " chmod 755 /* " instead of " chmod 755 * " You can imagine how many times I hit Ctrl-C after I realized my mistake. :D

Offline RC-1140

  • Posts: 86
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 11:50:04 »
That's interesting, I have to look for this texturepack!

And chmod 755 /* is nice! But rm -rf /usr is much better! Have a look at this Bugreport:
https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee/commit/a047be

But what are you using the Break key for?
« Last Edit: Sun, 14 August 2011, 11:52:56 by RC-1140 »
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Unicomp 122-Key Terminal Emulator - IBM Model M 1394309 - IBM Model M 1394312 (Terminal) - Cherry G84-4100 - Cherry G80-1800 MX Black - Cherry G80-2551HAD (with a spare NIB)

Offline litster

  • Posts: 2890
  • rare caps?! THAT'S A SMILIN
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 11:54:19 »
Search for "FC100 LED flash" on ebay.  There a number of sellers and different versions for Nikon and Canon.  I bought from this seller:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120723621217

So far I have only used it in light mode (not flash mode) since it is easier to set f-stop and shutter and its flash is not TTL (not for $26.95).  The manual is next to useless due to funny Engrish.  But it is simple enough anyone can figure it out how to use it.

Offline RC-1140

  • Posts: 86
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 11:59:36 »
Yup that looks cool! Going to buy a nikon one soon. Free shipping from Hongkong and around 25$? Nice! Thanks for the hint!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Unicomp 122-Key Terminal Emulator - IBM Model M 1394309 - IBM Model M 1394312 (Terminal) - Cherry G84-4100 - Cherry G80-1800 MX Black - Cherry G80-2551HAD (with a spare NIB)

Offline litster

  • Posts: 2890
  • rare caps?! THAT'S A SMILIN
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 12:03:16 »
Quote from: RC-1140;398793
Yup that looks cool! Going to buy a nikon one soon. Free shipping from Hongkong and around 25$? Nice! Thanks for the hint!

No problem!  Just keep the pictures coming and share them here.

It was $26.95 for the Canon version with free shipping drop-shipped from Hong Kong to New Jersey and then took its sweet time to get to the west coast to me.  It took almost 2 weeks to receive.

Offline RC-1140

  • Posts: 86
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 12:18:37 »
I guess I will use my camera to document the arrival of my first mechanical board(s)! I'm not sure which is to arrive earlier. The Unicomp I ordered yesterday, or the two Cherrys I'll buy from Ascaii on September 1st. The Unicomp will be international, the Cherrys a national delivery. But I guess I will only get my hands on the Unicomp on the 13th, as that's my 17th birthday and it's my present! But you will get Pictures, I promise. But maybe at first without the Macro Ring.

Btw, do you think it'd be possible to use the Nikon Flash on a Panasonic in light mode too? Because my main Camera is a Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ100, and I only use the Nikon of my Mother. (The joke is, I use her camera more often than she does. That's a good thing, I convince her of buying something, and use it myself. A big advantage of being 16 and the technician in the family)
« Last Edit: Sun, 14 August 2011, 12:22:39 by RC-1140 »
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Unicomp 122-Key Terminal Emulator - IBM Model M 1394309 - IBM Model M 1394312 (Terminal) - Cherry G84-4100 - Cherry G80-1800 MX Black - Cherry G80-2551HAD (with a spare NIB)

Offline guilleguillaume

  • Posts: 694
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 13:24:41 »
The question is: WHY NOT?

Offline gmorf33

  • Posts: 45
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 16 August 2011, 13:07:52 »
Quote from: WasabiJ;398046
ESDF ftw!

WASD ftl!

My reasons I feel ESDF is superior:  F has the tactile dot, which can always be under your pointer; ESDF does not require "shifting" your homerow positions; ESDF leaves the same amount of accessibility to Shift, Caps, Tab, and Ctrl/Alt keys, but also allows another set of binds to Q, A, and Z, also accessible now without moving your position.

More binds, more natural position, and quicker no-look acquisition... it's a win-win.


holy crap! been trying to convince people of this for years... never understood why wasd was so popular except maybe that it sounds cooler than esdf....  Been using ESDF since the original Quake and never looked back.  The few times i played at other people's computer's i tried it out, but quickly reinforced my idea that WASD is inferior in every way!  I think you're the first person i've seen on a public forum embracing ESDF

Offline False_Dmitry_II

  • Posts: 1107
May be stupid question but why Red Escape Key?
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 17 August 2011, 00:27:00 »
No, there have been others who say that. But I never got the claim that it's difficult to find the wasd keys. I get there's a few more buttons/keys available, but that's what gaming mice are for.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Ben Franklin (11 Nov. 1755)