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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #50 on: Thu, 25 August 2011, 12:58:33 »
I believe the correct term is "jelly."
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« Reply #51 on: Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:00:42 »
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bad example ;)
http://www.dhmo.org/
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« Reply #52 on: Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:02:10 »
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I believe the correct term is "jelly."


My English is crap but...


 From wikipedia...


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"Envy" and "jealousy" are often used interchangeably, but in correct usage they stand for two different distinct emotions.[1] In proper usage, jealousy is the fear of losing something that one possesses to another person (a loved one in the prototypical form), while envy is the pain or frustration caused by another person having something that one does not have oneself.
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« Reply #53 on: Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:08:25 »
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My English is crap but...


From wikipedia...

No, I was talking lube.  KY jelly is popular but I like Smuckers.  It tastes better, especially strawberry.  That, and I don't have to wait until I'm done ****ing to eat a sandwich.
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« Reply #54 on: Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:09:49 »
Envy - "A feeling of discontent and resentment aroused by and in conjunction with desire for the possessions or qualities of another." -Source

Persona - "4. The mask or façade presented to satisfy the demands of the situation or the environment and not representing the inner personality of the individual; the public personality ( contrasted with anima).
5. a person's perceived or evident personality, as that of a well-known official, actor, or celebrity; personal image; public role. " -Source
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #55 on: Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:11:44 »
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I prefer "Spooge".

Yes, the word of the day is "Spooge".  Yesterday's was "Snitch".


You must have an agreement with urbandictionary.com :lol:
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« Reply #56 on: Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:13:04 »
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You must have an agreement with urbandictionary.com :lol:

Word.
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« Reply #57 on: Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:13:29 »
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Envy - "A feeling of discontent and resentment aroused by and in conjunction with desire for the possessions or qualities of another."


This. :biggrin:
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« Reply #58 on: Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:16:52 »
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Word.

Word, bro.

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Offline bluecar5556

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« Reply #59 on: Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:20:26 »
Some enjoy getting to know people, such as myself, on a more inner personal level but I guess that's too much to ask.  It's all good bro, I'm not hatin'.  After all, there is a huge marginal difference between the internet and real life just like hollywood actors and their personal lives.  :)
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #60 on: Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:21:06 »
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Some enjoy getting to know people, such as myself, on a more inner personal level but I guess that's too much to ask.

Wanna ****?
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Offline bluecar5556

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« Reply #61 on: Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:30:56 »
A more inner PERSONAL level :wink:
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #62 on: Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:32:56 »
Oh, I can get in person REAL deep.
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« Reply #63 on: Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:34:07 »
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Oh, I can get in person REAL deep.


No wonder those ancient brown cherries lost their feel...
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #64 on: Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:34:11 »
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You're a bit slow on the joke stuff. Stick to Chemistry.

I'm good at Chemistry, too.

At least that's what the ladies say.
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Offline bluecar5556

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« Reply #65 on: Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:35:28 »
Do behave!

Can't wait for the new Austin power's movie!

Who knew Mike Myer's would make another at age 48
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #66 on: Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:35:33 »
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No wonder those ancient brown cherries lost their feel...

Young, old, brown, black, whatever.  I'll hit it.
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Offline The Solutor

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« Reply #67 on: Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:38:51 »
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Oh, I can get in person REAL deep.


This link seem perfect for you... :lol:

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2011/04/the_penis-size_map_one_more_re.php
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« Reply #68 on: Wed, 01 February 2012, 15:39:04 »
tl;dr - If you use electrical contact cleaner on your keyboard, verify that it leaves no residue before applying it to expensive microswitches.

Long term update! Guess what happened to the gummy, tacky cherry browns that I shot with WD-40 six months ago? Nothing. They're fine. Nice and smooth. So it worked. It's a nice board again, I use it daily.

This week I notice my other old Kinesis (serial 30034PMD) has started to feel tacky and gummy on a few keys. Stupidly, I decided not to use WD-40 this time, as everyone on here swears it's terrible. So I used an electrical contact cleaner. "Safe on plastics! Quick drying! Leaves no residue!" I figure this is safe, all of it will evaporate. Guess what happened to that board? Sticky city. The contact cleaner did not evaporate. It left a sticky residue, the board is near unusable.

Now that there's nothing to lose, I'm hitting all the switches on 30034PMD with WD-40. It will either remove the contact cleaner residue or it won't. The sad thing is, of these two Clinton-era Kineses, 30034PMD is the one that appears to have had an easy low-mileage life. If it's done, I killed it prematurely. Learn from my mistake.
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Fun non-ergonomic things: bolt modded Model M Space Saving Keyboards with new springs, Kensington Expert Mouse v7, Unicomp Endurapro, Northgates

Offline sordna

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« Reply #69 on: Wed, 01 February 2012, 16:13:55 »
WD40 should fix it. Which electrical contact cleaner did you use? IIRC people here recommend Deoxit F5 for cleaning / light lubrication, it seems to be the best cleaner for cherry switches. If WD40 doesn't completely resolve the issue, try the Caig Deoxit F5.
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Offline jpc

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« Reply #70 on: Wed, 01 February 2012, 17:03:41 »
I used Max Professional Contact Cleaner. NOT recommended, it leaves sticky residue. There's probably a reason the can looks like something you'd shoot at a hornet's nest...

WD-40 seems to have fixed it. Typing on it now, it's not sticky. OK.
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RSI prevention recipe:[/B] Kinesis Contoured, Colemak layout, touch typing, Contour Design Rollermouse,  Logitech TrackMan Wheel, Logitech m570 trackball, "workrave" break timer software, "awesome" window manager, tenkeyless boards, cherry browns, Wang 724 with "ghetto green" ALPS, standing desk and/or comfy adjustable chairs, stress reduction, computer time reduction.

Fun non-ergonomic things: bolt modded Model M Space Saving Keyboards with new springs, Kensington Expert Mouse v7, Unicomp Endurapro, Northgates

Offline sordna

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« Reply #71 on: Wed, 01 February 2012, 17:31:54 »
I'd still finish the job with Deoxit F5, if you also want to reduce friction that is.
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Offline bluecar5556

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« Reply #72 on: Wed, 01 February 2012, 19:17:32 »
The switches sticking from residual residue of using contact cleaner can be easily mistaken for it washing away the white lithium grease Cherry used, perhaps?  WD-40 smells funky, i'm surprised you don't smell it while typing.  Glad to hear it worked.
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« Reply #73 on: Wed, 01 February 2012, 19:22:43 »
I have scratched my head for years to feel really good about long-term (weeks-months-years-decades) lubrication for plastics.

Having taken apart devices from decades past, I have seen myriad forms of deterioration (heck, 2-year-old rubber bands can turn to crunchy nuggets) and would love to know what I could feel comfortable putting on something that feels really valuable to me.

Usually, my fall-back position is to clean and rinse thoroughly, then use no lubrication at all.
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« Reply #74 on: Wed, 01 February 2012, 19:38:20 »
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residue of using contact cleaner can be easily mistaken for it washing away the white lithium grease Cherry used, perhaps?

I can see and feel the residue of the contact cleaner, on the stems and switch housings. It's seriously sticky! It looks like a beer spill or something.

I have some white lithium grease. It works great on auto door latches. Is that safe to squirt into a microswitch?
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RSI prevention recipe:[/B] Kinesis Contoured, Colemak layout, touch typing, Contour Design Rollermouse,  Logitech TrackMan Wheel, Logitech m570 trackball, "workrave" break timer software, "awesome" window manager, tenkeyless boards, cherry browns, Wang 724 with "ghetto green" ALPS, standing desk and/or comfy adjustable chairs, stress reduction, computer time reduction.

Fun non-ergonomic things: bolt modded Model M Space Saving Keyboards with new springs, Kensington Expert Mouse v7, Unicomp Endurapro, Northgates

Offline bluecar5556

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« Reply #75 on: Wed, 01 February 2012, 19:40:46 »
Certainly!  Yuk yuk yuk That's what Cherry Corp. uses.  Ideally, the paste from a tube rather than the liquid from an aerosol can but of course, you'd have to perform surgery on the switches and de-soldering the bowl PCB's without a solder sucker is a bit tedious.
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