Why are TKL's expensiver than Full Size Keyboards?

[Vocroth]

I checked elitekeyboards today and realized the Tenkeyless version of the realforce keyboards were expensiver than the fullsize ones

Can anyone explain?

[itlnstln]

I checked elitekeyboards today and realized the Tenkeyless version of the realforce keyboards were expensiver than the fullsize ones

Can anyone explain?

First, I would like you to explain "expensiver."

Then, TKL 'boards are more expensive because they are a niche product.  I would imagine Elite and other vendors sell far more full-size 'boards than TKLs despite what it might seem like here.

EDIT: Damnit, I'm slow on Tapatalk.

[PlayerZero]

Because it's Topre. If they can charge the $109 for a set of ****ing keycaps and $129 for a NUMPAD (both are more expensive than an entire fullsize Leopold), the can do anything.

[Tony]

The eager users are willing to pay more for the tenkeyless version, so the sales department let them do so.

Smaller is better. Do you prefer a big fat woman?

[demik]

expensiver he says

[kwantz]

is it more expensive or expensiver??  soo confused

[Capacitive Switch!!!]

A word that has more than 3 syllables must go with "more" or "most" in front,
not "-er" or "-est".

[Pylon]

Well the 86U is a lot cheaper than the 87U for sure...

[bluecar5556]

A word that has more than 3 syllables must go with "more" or "most" in front,
not "-er" or "-est".

No wonder the English language blows chunks, too many rules.  Can you imagine the world converting to one language and one currency, it could happen one day and it wouldn't be a good thing.  Divide and conquer, together we stand.  One, a one world government, one generation at a time.

As I understand it, Cherry MX linear's have a 50,000,000 keystroke lifespan and tactile are 20,000,000?  Is the tactile switch lifespan of the contacts or the tactile bump?

[hoggy]

"together we stand" usually means "together we stand - against someone else"

As for the price mess up - I'd rather have a tkl than a full size one - and elitekeyboards knows it (well, not about me, exactly).

[Lanx]

Can you imagine the world converting to one language and one currency, it could happen one day and it wouldn't be a good thing.  Divide and conquer, together we stand.  One, a one world government, one generation at a time.

As i understand it all air traffic control is 100% english, even foreign air traffic controllers in other countries have to speak english with each other. The second largest country is India, and someone correct me, but i believe English is taught along side Hindu?, we just have to get the asians to be down with english then, and not the horrible english they're learning now, like go send some out of work NY english teachers their way or something, just get rid of tenure.

[Bry]

Does sound kinda Italian though.

IDK why but this makes me hungry.
Italian food ftw?

[Waterdr1nker]

No wonder the English language blows chunks, too many rules.  Can you imagine the world converting to one language and one currency, it could happen one day and it wouldn't be a good thing.  Divide and conquer, together we stand.  One, a one world government, one generation at a time.

As I understand it, Cherry MX linear's have a 50,000,000 keystroke lifespan and tactile are 20,000,000?  Is the tactile switch lifespan of the contacts or the tactile bump?

I don't remember where I saw it, but I think Cherry says that all of their key switches have a 50,000,000 keystroke lifespan.

[Saturn]

it ain't easy to saw off a numberpad, you know

[bluecar5556]

"together we stand" usually means "together we stand - against someone else"

Are you sure the subconscious mind isn't reverting back to singing the star-spangled banner in grade school?

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Legal definitions
Pledge-to deposit personal property as security for a personal loan.
Deposit-A naked bailment of goods to be kept for the bailor, without reward, and to be returned when he shall require it.
Allegiance-A form of security to assure that a person will repay a debt or perform an act under contract
Justice-A scheme or system of law in which every person receives his/her/its due from the system, including all rights, both natural and legal.
Security-A deposit, lien, or mortgage voluntarily given by a debtor to a creditor to guarantee payment of a debt.
Contract-An agreement with specific terms between two or more persons or entities in which there is a promise to do something in return for a valuable benefit known as consideration.
Entity-An organization or being that possesses separate existence for tax purposes, aka "Person."
Person-1. A human being as distinguished from that of an animal. 2. An entity, such as a corporation that is recognized by law as having the rights and duties of a human being

Social Security Act and the Birth Certificate, Inc.

Non-staggered keyboards with a switch or even better, numpad footpedal switch will make 10-keys obsolete just like Dvorak, Colemak, or anything replacing Qwerty, probably never in our lifetime.  10-key's seems very redundant and impractical in my eyes, if the keys aren't staggered to begin with that is.  Phase them out slow enough and I bet no one would be the wiser.

[litster]

Tenkeyless are moar better!

[bluecar5556]

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Gotta love it

[The Solutor]

I don't remember where I saw it, but I think Cherry says that all of their key switches have a 50,000,000 keystroke lifespan.

They changed their minds recently, and upgraded the numbers in the PDFs, almost surely is BS.

Even the "unbreakable" model Ms are rated for 25M of keystrokes.

[The Solutor]

I checked elitekeyboards today and realized the Tenkeyless version of the realforce keyboards were expensiver than the fullsize ones

Can anyone explain?

When there isn't any correlation between the production cost and the final price is easy to place random prices.

Topre boards should cost a little more than a good rubber dome and way less than a microswitch keyboard.

[bluecar5556]

They changed their minds recently, and upgraded the numbers in the PDFs, almost surely is BS.

Even the "unbreakable" model Ms are rated for 25M of keystrokes.

Must be their new design, huh?   :bloodshed:

?  I'm typing on my phone and the predictive text interpreted :rollseyes: as :bloodshed:  
Can't make this stuff up.
I think I'll lock it away somewhere before going to sleep...

[The Solutor]

Must be their new design, huh?

According to the filco designer, simply the Japanese people  like the premium products, just give them something that feel uncommon and exclusive place to a premium price on them and they buy anything.

For this kind of people an high price is the better kind of advertising.

[bluecar5556]

According to the filco designer, simply the Japanese people  like the premium products, just give them something that feel uncommon and exclusive place to a premium price on them and they buy anything.

For this kind of people an high price is the better kind of advertising.

 case in point, BOSE speakers.  They refuse to publish the frequency response charts and exemplify specific frequency ranges to make tiny drivers sound "different."  A flat freq. response is a good thing and did I mention they don't have tweeters?

[peda]

... The second largest country is India, ...

sorry to break it to you US-guys but the USA is only the 4th biggest country in the world.

Even native English speakers are only 3rd in the world. (or 4th, depending on which statistic you take)


nevertheless on topic: it is supply and demand which makes tenkeyless more expensive. There is no reason that the production costs are higher then with a full sized keyboard.

I DEMAND PRICE CHANGES!!

[hella]

According to the filco designer, simply the Japanese people  like the premium products, just give them something that feel uncommon and exclusive place to a premium price on them and they buy anything.

For this kind of people an high price is the better kind of advertising.

Yep, anyone whose studied Japanese consumer economics would know this is 100% true.

[Vocroth]

Sorry, english is not my first language

[keyboardlover]

Sorry, english is not my first language

No problem - "more expensive" would be the correct phrase.

[bluecar5556]

sevenTeenKeyLess if you want to be technical instead of social norms correct.    i'm just playin'

[sordna]

Actually Tenkeyless instead of TKL would have been correct.

TKL made my Larivee Parlor case.
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Whaddayaknow, a steel string acoustic where the neck meets the body at the 12th fret instead of the 14th, that's not very common (except for classical guitars). How's the bass on it? Post an mp3 of it sometime !