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Offline leotnnz

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« on: Fri, 07 October 2011, 18:20:28 »
just received my camo with blue switch. looks good. but i found a problem with the direction key "up". it is not centered properly, closer to right frame than left. do you guys who have camo have this problem also? or it is just on my unit?

thx.

here is the pic.

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Offline litster

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« Reply #1 on: Fri, 07 October 2011, 18:22:50 »
You sure it is not the keycap's problem?  How does it look with the original Filco up arrow keycap?
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Offline leotnnz

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« Reply #2 on: Fri, 07 October 2011, 18:28:02 »
no. another pic without cap

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« Reply #3 on: Fri, 07 October 2011, 18:36:09 »
Oh crap.  RMA it.  Are all keycaps shifted to the right or just the up arrow?  Does the up arrow switch line up with the down arrow switch?
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« Reply #4 on: Fri, 07 October 2011, 18:40:06 »
it happens to home cluster. damn. a $160 kb with crap frame.....
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Offline leotnnz

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« Reply #5 on: Fri, 07 October 2011, 18:43:25 »
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Oh crap.  RMA it.  Are all keycaps shifted to the right or just the up arrow?  Does the up arrow switch line up with the down arrow switch?

i am waiting to see if all camo have this prob or just mine does. if just mine, i ll get a replacement. otherwise, what happened filco??
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« Reply #6 on: Fri, 07 October 2011, 18:56:42 »
Such has been noted on Filcos before... try searching the forum for filco alignment or similar.
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« Reply #7 on: Fri, 07 October 2011, 19:02:03 »
I'll check... give me a minute and I will post a picture of it.
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« Reply #8 on: Fri, 07 October 2011, 19:25:27 »
Mine are slightly to the right too.
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Offline leotnnz

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« Reply #9 on: Fri, 07 October 2011, 19:28:22 »
my friend said his has no such alignment prob. i need to press the key down to insert the keypuller to pull out the keycaps. damn.
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Offline BababooeyHTJ

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« Reply #10 on: Fri, 07 October 2011, 19:36:05 »
My G1 is the same way. I never would have noticed it had I not just looked for it due to this thread. You are nit picking. Its a non issue imo.

I don't love my keyboard any less.
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Offline reaper

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« Reply #11 on: Fri, 07 October 2011, 19:57:39 »
Mine is the same way (sits a little closer to the right).

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« Reply #12 on: Fri, 07 October 2011, 20:01:03 »
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My G1 is the same way. I never would have noticed it had I not just looked for it due to this thread. You are nit picking. Its a non issue imo.

I don't love my keyboard any less.

i found it when i pulled out the key caps where the frame block the puller. it is easy to feel the difference from my other filco keyboards.
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Offline leotnnz

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« Reply #13 on: Fri, 07 October 2011, 20:04:55 »
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Mine is the same way (sits a little closer to the right).

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thx, reaper. did you feel any trouble when pull out the keycap? i mean no enough room for puller to sit down. is this only happening to Amazon batch?
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« Reply #14 on: Fri, 07 October 2011, 20:16:39 »
not to answer for him but, reaper's didn't come from the amazon batch.
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« Reply #15 on: Fri, 07 October 2011, 20:31:26 »
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thx, reaper. did you feel any trouble when pull out the keycap? i mean no enough room for puller to sit down. is this only happening to Amazon batch?

You're welcome and yup, like demik pointed out.  Mine came straight from Korea (with Iomania sticker on the box) and I had a little trouble pulling out that keycap.
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« Reply #16 on: Sat, 08 October 2011, 02:35:07 »
OOh so this is the filco flaw.  If you got this from amazon you can just return it. They have a good return policy.
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Offline Kamikaze K

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« Reply #17 on: Sat, 08 October 2011, 03:11:19 »
Just noticed mine as well...  Definitely not aligned.  Must be across the board with the 1st batch.
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« Reply #18 on: Sat, 08 October 2011, 03:15:50 »
My Filco MJ2 Tenkeyless also has the same of set.
Filco's first flaw. Oh Noes, there goes Filco reputation.



Cooler Master Storm RapidFire seem to have a better casing but still have a slight offset.
But I wonder how soon before the rubber coat becomes an issue...
« Last Edit: Sat, 08 October 2011, 04:39:56 by squarebox »
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Offline shaippen

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« Reply #19 on: Sat, 08 October 2011, 03:57:07 »
I have the exact same thing on my MJ2 10KL, so it's probably not just a single batch but rather a design error.

It's a bit tricky to insert the keypuller but it doesn't bother me, after all, it's just the up key.
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« Reply #20 on: Sat, 08 October 2011, 04:11:57 »
Now that you point it out my Maj2's Inv-T cluster is off-center too.
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« Reply #21 on: Sat, 08 October 2011, 04:22:18 »
Is this the new ping?
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« Reply #22 on: Sat, 08 October 2011, 04:30:09 »
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Is this the new ping?

LOL...
How soon before we get to "life is overrated" ?
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Offline Tony

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« Reply #23 on: Sat, 08 October 2011, 06:13:56 »
Clearly Filco reputation is about key feel and build quality but not alignment.

For alphabetical and number rows, you can easily find out many other misaglignments too, since all keys are not in the same shape and length.

According to that standard, all of mechanical keyboards are misaligned.
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« Reply #24 on: Sat, 08 October 2011, 06:36:51 »
Some are worst than others.

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« Reply #25 on: Sat, 08 October 2011, 06:46:39 »
Seems like it's normal. I have it on my Majestouch 1 and Majestouch 2.
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« Reply #26 on: Sat, 08 October 2011, 07:07:28 »
Lol seems that ignorance is bliss in this case.  No one even notice till the OP posted about it! ;) I love my Camo Filco and I reckon I can get over this new "Ping Mk II"!
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« Reply #27 on: Sat, 08 October 2011, 08:40:19 »
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Is this the new ping?

No.
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« Reply #28 on: Sat, 08 October 2011, 09:34:00 »
Quote from: squarebox;427426
My Filco MJ2 Tenkeyless also has the same of set.
Filco's first flaw. Oh Noes, there goes Filco reputation.

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Cooler Master Storm RapidFire seem to have a better casing but still have a slight offset.
But I wonder how soon before the rubber coat becomes an issue...


I have the same - up arrow key on my FILCO TKL ninja majetouch 2 - same offset as illustrated by squarbox [in fact I would say worse ... almost touching] - I can still fit a keycap remover... just not laterally
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« Reply #29 on: Sat, 08 October 2011, 09:46:30 »
On the quest for perfection, Filco keyboard is still a product with so much defects and so high price.
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Offline leotnnz

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« Reply #30 on: Sat, 08 October 2011, 09:53:52 »
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Is this the new ping?

lol, i am never been bothered by the Ping, though i know what it is and i bet mine have ping ping ping!!!

i suppose i am not an overrated guy. but is case alignment not so called build quality? a few bucks damn rubber dome could make alignment fine. why not a $160 kb?

i love filco's kb and have several. but alignment trouble is i first met this time. and this alignment makes me need the trick to pull out the key caps. if it does not, i will be fine to live with it.

does filco say "love me, love my dog"???
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« Reply #31 on: Sat, 08 October 2011, 11:48:49 »
Quote from: Tony;427501
On the quest for perfection, Filco keyboard is still a product with so much defects and so high price.


So much defect???
My Filco 104 dont have this alignment issue.

Wait till you see the problems Ducky and Xarmor face...
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« Reply #32 on: Sat, 08 October 2011, 12:31:34 »
3 samples from me.

Majestouch 1 Blue:



Majestouch 2 Ninja Brown 3 months ago from Amazon:



Majestouch 2 Limited R 3 months ago from China:


So I guess it has been like this since Majestouch 1 but no one noticed until now.
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« Reply #33 on: Sat, 08 October 2011, 13:29:59 »
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« Reply #34 on: Sat, 08 October 2011, 13:34:32 »
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Such has been noted on Filcos before... try searching the forum for filco alignment or similar.

Quote from: Soarer;427478
No.

Quote from: wanabe;427578
the up arrow mis-alignment goes back a while

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?12998-Filco-Tenkeyless-Owners&p=252334

Someone might hear us eventually! :-)
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« Reply #35 on: Mon, 10 October 2011, 17:47:46 »
Same on mine.
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« Reply #36 on: Mon, 10 October 2011, 18:42:08 »
Ha, I did notice then I first got my MJ2 TKL w blues. As I changed my flat mates ninja keys over to mine, and in the process had to squeeze in the key cap pulller. Can take a photo later..
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« Reply #37 on: Tue, 11 October 2011, 06:14:54 »
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Wait till you see the problems Ducky and Xarmor face...

I love how case alignment was one of the big "quality issues" with Duckys when, in reality, even Topre has case alignment issues on the RF 'boards.  TBH, the 9008 series Duckys are just as good as any Filco, Leopold, etc. but were boo-hooed by the Geekhack FUD machine.

Ripster posted some off-center, Model M cases in his subforum, too.  In the end, it's just a keyboard.

This is going to become the new ping... again.
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Offline xbb

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« Reply #38 on: Thu, 05 January 2012, 13:06:17 »
I have a similar problem with my Filco (MJ 1), the keycaps on the left side near the edge are actually scratching the case when they move up.
I actually didn't care and noticed just today this was a problem when my left shift key was not clicking anymore because of this, replaced the SP shift keycap with a Cherry doubleshot and it was clicking again, but still it's scratching.
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« Reply #39 on: Thu, 05 January 2012, 18:06:52 »
My full-sized MJ2 Ninja aligned perfectly.
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« Reply #40 on: Fri, 06 January 2012, 13:49:38 »
I will let you know if mine has the same thing but since I am using it for gaming no big deal.
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« Reply #41 on: Fri, 06 January 2012, 13:54:58 »
Seems the issue is only isolated to tenkeyless.
My full size Linear-R is fine, purchased April 2011.
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Offline Creizai

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« Reply #42 on: Fri, 06 January 2012, 20:51:11 »
Or nobody was that OCD enough to care.  Like seriously who ****ing cares dude.. RMA over this ****?  Do you ****ing comb your carpet too?
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« Reply #43 on: Sat, 07 January 2012, 19:10:34 »
mine has a slight misalignment too, but life goes on, not gonna worry about these little things. i could return it, but i'll be keeping mine. it's a TKL ninja ordered from amazon btw.
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« Reply #44 on: Sun, 08 January 2012, 05:22:39 »
my ninja is also misaligned, I did not bother to return it since everything seems solid.
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