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Offline Kamikaze K

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« on: Wed, 12 October 2011, 18:24:17 »
Stock just arrived of the Ducky Shine's... Place an order with Cherry Blue's early this morning!!  Will post a short review once I give it a red hot go!

Only thing I'm wondering about is how much louder is it going to be compared to the BWU... I remember trying out the Filco Blue's in store and notice how much louder the Filco Blue's were compared to the BWU! I got rid of my BWU due to lack of NKRO and the fact that once awhile (well slightly more than that) the key's would get stuck in-game eventhough the key's had already been released.  Was slightly annoying.
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Offline pitashen

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« Reply #1 on: Wed, 12 October 2011, 20:26:38 »
back lit keyboard eh. I　can never understand those who fancy of back lit keycaps. I wonder if they are aware of what they got themselves into.

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Offline demik

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« Reply #2 on: Wed, 12 October 2011, 20:46:12 »
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back lit keyboard eh. I　can never understand those who fancy of back lit keycaps. I wonder if they are aware of what they got themselves into.

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this is what i always ask myself, especially "gamers" that need backlighting

they must be crappy gamers if they have to keep looking down at their keys instead of whats on their screen
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Offline fstop

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« Reply #3 on: Wed, 12 October 2011, 22:08:20 »
I have a backlit dome board with the option to switch the light levels and I always turn my off lmao. Im a gamer, and if anything they're even more distracting.

I don't understand the need for it either. Maybe because they look "cool".
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Offline Kamikaze K

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« Reply #4 on: Wed, 12 October 2011, 22:08:56 »
Quote from: demik;429865
this is what i always ask myself, especially "gamers" that need backlighting

they must be crappy gamers if they have to keep looking down at their keys instead of whats on their screen

  Aw fellas... Why the negativity?  ;) ... For me it's 'cause I game in a very dark room and when switching from the game to chat, my eyes tend to take a little to get used to the keyboard... (I'm not a master touch typer... I occacionally look down).  Having backlit keys just helps that a little... Plus I was curious about Ducky's and how they stack up against the Filco's in terms of key feel.

  And yes Ripster... Who'd want to stay for the northern winter?!
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Offline pitashen

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« Reply #5 on: Wed, 12 October 2011, 22:41:16 »
Negative because pictures shown above.
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Offline peda

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« Reply #6 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 01:51:40 »
Quote from: pitashen;429912
Negative because pictures shown above.

So you say that this happens only because of the backlight?
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Offline Kippei

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« Reply #7 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 03:38:55 »
I say is because of the coating.
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Offline peda

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« Reply #8 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 05:57:45 »
but how is the coating different from non-backlit keyboards?

the keys are the same. just an led behind...

either the keys wear out or not... nothing to do with the light behind it.
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Offline duncan

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« Reply #9 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 06:31:02 »
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the keys are the same.


The same as what? (ABS? PCT? other?)

The board above has backlighting *and* a special coating that wears off.
The prime purpose of both features seems to be only to make the board *cool*.
The comment was these particular boards have a nasty coating that wears of as well as backlighting. Not that the backlighting caused the coating nor that it caused the coating to fail. Just that boards that are about being *cool* may be not as a good in terms of value as boards that are more boring to look at but have *better* internals.
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Offline peda

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« Reply #10 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 06:43:36 »
you missunderstood me duncan.
what i meant is that it is wrong what pitashen said in post #3. He implied that the backlight causes the keys to wear off.
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Offline flyball

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« Reply #11 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 07:33:47 »
Quote from: pitashen;429856
back lit keyboard eh. I　can never understand those who fancy of back lit keycaps. I wonder if they are aware of what they got themselves into.

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that second one isnt backlit
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Offline enoy21

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« Reply #12 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 07:44:30 »
My Saitek Eclipse is 4 years old and the backlighting still works great and nothing has worn off.   I originally wanted backlighting because I tend to look down at my hands alot when typing in game chat and I often am typing in a dim room.    But Once I looked into Mechanicals , I went so far as to get BLANK keycaps so I would force myself to stop glancing and the board.  There is something to be said for " less flair , more performance " .

 My biggest issue is my use of only the first three fingers when typing and don't use the home row so I found myself having to look down for the first word in a sentence to get me started in the right spot. Now I'm trying to unlearn 15 years of bad habit , but my impatience often gets me typing in the old fashion again.
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« Reply #13 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 10:56:16 »
Quote from: demik;429865
this is what i always ask myself, especially "gamers" that need backlighting

they must be crappy gamers if they have to keep looking down at their keys instead of whats on their screen

I'm a lifelong touch-typist, and I love backlit keys. They just LOOK cooler. Simple as that.
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Offline pitashen

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« Reply #14 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 11:32:38 »
Quote from: peda;430035
you missunderstood me duncan.
what i meant is that it is wrong what pitashen said in post #3. He implied that the backlight causes the keys to wear off.

Any keys would wear off. Back lit keys are usually coated on top of translucent keys (especially those Taiwan made boards :) ). And as coating wears off, light leask thru. Thats what those pics are showing.
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Offline pitashen

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« Reply #15 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 11:37:54 »
Quote from: flyball;430050
that second one isnt backlit


You are right. My mistake. I thought the macbook would have back lit keyboard.
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Offline pitashen

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« Reply #16 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 12:24:05 »
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But have you seen a Razer, Deck, Xarmor or any other mechanical with bled through keys yet?

Any pics?

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?11992-Roccat-Arvo-for-Programming-and-Gaming&p=232887&viewfull=1#post232887

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?8321-Blank-Keys-for-a-macbook&p=147184&viewfull=1#post147184

Note: Did not try to look for your post by the way. They just happened to be yours.
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Offline pitashen

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« Reply #17 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 12:38:44 »
Wiki on lasered/dye-subbed back lit keys would be great.  Enlighten me.
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #18 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 12:40:55 »
Quote from: pitashen;430228
Wiki on lasered/dye-subbed back lit keys would be great.  Enlighten me.

You mean this one?  http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=All+About+Keys
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 12:44:47 »
Apparently.
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #20 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 12:47:12 »
"All About Keys" had pics of various backlit caps, including Deck's, so I picked it, but either way.
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 12:56:39 »
Word.  I think you covered the subject pretty well.
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Offline pitashen

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« Reply #22 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 13:00:12 »
Quote from: ripster;430249
Then there's this wiki.

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Key+Reference+-+Pics+and+specifications+for+various+manufacturers+keys#Deck+and+TG3

I do remember people saying Deck boards are not like other blacklit brands. I highly doubt dukcy shine or blackwidow use those keys tho. Your wiki showing pics of worn backlit caps aren't helping me liking the coating method any better.
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 13:02:28 »
Deck's are money; they will never fade.  Too bad the font sucks.
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Offline pitashen

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« Reply #24 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 13:19:34 »
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Deck's are money; they will never fade.  Too bad the font sucks.

And thats why I said what I said. I wonder if people going crazy with backlit realize once the coating wears off (a matter of time), it is more nasty than worn non-backbit keycaps (I have no problem with keycaps become shiny). I always liked the idea of backlit until I learned how the majority of them are made.
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Offline pitashen

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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 13:29:51 »
Quote from: ripster;430279
I wonder if Pyro likes my wikis?  He sure hates my subforum.


Does putting me on the Ignore List mean you can't read my wikis?

lol Rip, you sure know how to divert attentions.
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Offline Kamikaze K

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« Reply #26 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 18:55:01 »
Quote from: ripster;430180
I'm no backlit key hater.  Geekhack is filled with snobs these days.


Wow tell me about it! ;) I post a little harmless thread about a Mech'board that's lights up and BAM! Backlit Bashers come flocking! lol

On a more serious note though in regards to key wear...  The key prints are lasered (well so says the spec's in the photo) so wearing out the keys will take some time (I'm pretty OCD when it comes to taking care of my things so might take a while) and Ripster's right... I've yet to see evidence of a worn out Blackwidow or Deck key.  Yet.
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Offline demik

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« Reply #27 on: Thu, 13 October 2011, 20:28:50 »
Quote from: spolia optima;430159
I'm a lifelong touch-typist, and I love backlit keys. They just LOOK cooler. Simple as that.
i can respect that

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Wow tell me about it! ;) I post a little harmless thread about a Mech'board that's lights up and BAM! Backlit Bashers come flocking! lol

where did i bash you and your love of back lights?
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Offline Kamikaze K

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« Reply #28 on: Fri, 14 October 2011, 00:53:00 »
Quote from: demik;430652
where did i bash you and your love of back lights?

 Mate, hope you're not taking me seriously... But don't worry... if anyone asks, "I fell down the stairs".
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Offline demik

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« Reply #29 on: Fri, 14 October 2011, 01:03:11 »
Make sure you wear make up to mask the bruise!

When are you suppose to get your keyboard?
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Offline Kamikaze K

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« Reply #30 on: Fri, 14 October 2011, 02:01:26 »
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Make sure you wear make up to mask the bruise!

 Don't worry... I'll just tell them I'm really clumsy...

Supposed to get it hopefully by Wednesday... I would've gotten it sooner but I'm away for work so they'll be sending it off on Monday.
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Offline spzz

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« Reply #31 on: Fri, 14 October 2011, 03:06:19 »
Not all backlit keys wear off....my Macbook with backlit keys haven't faded a bit after 2 years of use...but those keys are definitively made of something different than the keys on my Ducky 1087. Ripster do you know what material Macbook Pro keys are made of? :o
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Offline Kippei

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« Reply #32 on: Fri, 14 October 2011, 22:49:51 »
Retail stock is coming in Singapore today but I couldn't wait for the delivery man to turn up
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Offline Gin

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« Reply #33 on: Sat, 15 October 2011, 00:46:34 »
May I ask what those apparatuses on your desk are?

Quote from: ripster;430180
I'm no backlit key hater.  Geekhack is filled with snobs these days.
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Offline Marclgw

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« Reply #34 on: Sat, 15 October 2011, 01:10:43 »
What a thread...
Its trash.
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Offline peda

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« Reply #35 on: Sat, 15 October 2011, 02:08:48 »
Quote from: Marclgw;431542
What a thread...
Its trash.


you are right!

This thread needs more ducks!

[video=youtube;0LEYwoooVfw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LEYwoooVfw[/video]


QUACK!!
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Offline frodeflintstone

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« Reply #36 on: Sat, 15 October 2011, 13:52:40 »
Don't forget that the ducky's have different switches under the space bark and enter keys.  If that doesn't bother you, then they are a good choice.  The one I got was very nice (impressive box), but I have to say that the Leopold seemed to me to be a bit higher quality (the body is a bit heavier and feels more solid).
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Offline pitashen

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« Reply #37 on: Sat, 15 October 2011, 18:08:24 »
Ripsta, yer Yucky joke iz da best!
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Offline pitashen

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« Reply #38 on: Sat, 15 October 2011, 18:14:39 »
Quote from: ripster;431960
ItlnStln doesn't think they are funny.  But at least he's no snitch and doesn't push the report button.

No I don't find them funny either, but I learned to live with them. lol
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Offline pitashen

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« Reply #39 on: Sat, 15 October 2011, 18:18:00 »
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then why did you lol?

lol
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Offline Kippei

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« Reply #40 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 00:31:59 »
Production Ducky Shine

Finally reach home with my Ducky shine red switch



Still trying to get used to it. But the spacebar is a black switch
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Offline peda

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« Reply #41 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 01:23:17 »
Kippei, can you please confirm that the claim is wrong that there is a different switch under the enter key?!

Thanks
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« Reply #42 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 01:33:44 »
Enter key is red switch. But the stabliser made it feel like black...

Gonna get it lube-ed soon
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Offline Kamikaze K

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« Reply #43 on: Wed, 19 October 2011, 12:34:13 »
Got my Shine today (or "Shining" on the box)  So far so good with the 'board.  One thing I did notice though was that you had to manually turn on the backlighting everytime you boot up your PC... When using both PS2 or USB (hoping it's not just me).  A bit disappointed about that.  Since that's the case I'm using the PS2 adapter so I can get full NKRO.  Will post more about my thoughts later when I've had more time with the 'board.  But right now, having only about 2 hrs with it I gotta say I prefer the stabilizers on my Filco TKL better.
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« Reply #44 on: Wed, 19 October 2011, 13:24:45 »
Quote from: Kippei;432134
Enter key is red switch. But the stabliser made it feel like black...

Gonna get it lube-ed soon

thanks mate
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Offline Kamikaze K

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« Reply #45 on: Wed, 19 October 2011, 19:53:05 »
Quote from: ripster;434604
Congrats!!!!

Should be hitting OCN/Tankguys soon then.

No Peking Ducky OCN!

  Thanks!  Gotta say though I've gotten used to the size of my TKL and going back to a full sized keyboard takes a bit of adjusting! ;)  Another thing I've noticed is that the "1x" light on the top right of the 'board stays on even when the PC is off.  Slightly annoying that... At the moment I'm finding these little things*** oh no.... Have I become a Filco fanboi??  ..... Or dear.
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« Reply #46 on: Thu, 20 October 2011, 13:12:33 »



Ducky Shine in Singapore.
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Offline iconsam

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« Reply #47 on: Thu, 27 October 2011, 06:19:52 »
Kippei where did you get your red wasd key cap?
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« Reply #48 on: Thu, 27 October 2011, 07:14:59 »
Quote from: iconsam;440386
Kippei where did you get your red wasd key cap?

It comes with the keyboard.
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« Reply #49 on: Thu, 27 October 2011, 08:13:28 »
only for the cherry mx red ducky?
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