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Offline Lanx

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« on: Sat, 15 October 2011, 01:45:12 »
i have a droid, the first one, i'm very familiar with droid. My fiance has iphone4, i'm very familiar with ios (had itouch for years). Basically i'm on a share a line with a my fiance with Verizon, works great, for 10 years, it's just "time" i upgrade. Of course the 4S looks like an underwhelming upgrade, but what's worse is that Verizon will not carry the Samsung Galaxy S2, in favor of the Bionic (i'm assuming it's cuz of their working relationship with motorola).
Honestly if the iphone 4s came with a 4.3in screen i wouldn't even care... but it's the same cruddy 3.7in screen and no 4g/lte but the app store is amazon (droid marketplace just sucks... it's like the reverse of the computer world, there is no software for mac and everything on PC... droid only has like angry birds... lol).

on also if i upgrade i think i have to give up my unlimited plan for 30bucks and pay for a 2gb limited plan for the same price... wtf!

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« Reply #1 on: Sat, 15 October 2011, 07:39:08 »
wait a few weeks for the nexus prime. when you upgrade they will let you keep your "unlimited" data plan, but the fine print is that they throttle your speeds when you hit the cap, dont remember if it's 2 or 5 gigs for prev unlimited users

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« Reply #2 on: Sat, 15 October 2011, 20:36:08 »
ugh almost selected the 16gb iphone to upgrade then i remembered how stupid apple is, they force you to upgrade cuz they won't put in a .02c microSD card slot. I remember when sony and olympus got flack for trying to make their own memory standard... sony with minor success with the memory stick and olympus with that stupid larger microSD, how come apple can get away with forced upgrades? *sigh* nexus prime you say?

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« Reply #3 on: Sat, 15 October 2011, 22:09:49 »
I have the Droid 3 and am happy with it. The keyboard is decent.

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« Reply #4 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 11:37:07 »
I love my Galaxy S2.  When I saw the variations for the US I wasn't sure why the carriers would mess with the design, thought it would put up roadblocks for the mod community.

The only thing I don't like about Android apps is the ads, but those are only there for the free apps.  I just think of it as a slightly annoying demo version, which is exactly what free apps are.  At least you get to try them before you buy them.
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« Reply #5 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 11:40:59 »
Been using my iPhone 3GS for almost three years now and it's served me beautifully. Runs iOS 5 very well and really doesn't feel very outdated at all. Battery life is nearly as good as it was the day I bought it.

That said, the 4S' camera, killer screen, and other niceties are very tempting and I may pick one up upon returning to Japan (aka the land of cheap data plans).

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« Reply #6 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 12:09:31 »
I don't know why you are upgrading to something that you already don't like.

Apple hardware (in terms of specs) has always been a weak point. Now their chosen screen size looks like a liability, but they can't easily change it since the OS is so tied up and integrated with the hardware.

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« Reply #7 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 13:46:48 »
My droid bionic is too damn big. Feel like I need to buy a purse just to carry this thing around.
I'd get the 4S fo sho
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« Reply #8 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 14:15:03 »
Get a nokia 3310.

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« Reply #9 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 14:18:18 »
IPhone rebuttal:

My iPhone4 is as big a phone as I can have. Bigger screen than 3.7 in theory is great, but not at the liability of a phone that's any bigger than it already is (for me). Anything that is important enough for a bigger screen I might as well use iPad or bigger. If it's bigger, it loses its functionality for being uber-mobile, but great if you sit at a desk/couch all day, in which case there are other options. As for the quality of the touch and the visibility, the specs are the best ('bar none' as per Rapster) and this is proven. The product is basically a 'phone first' and everything else second.

The 4S is not underwhelming, the media craze hyped up some new 'standard' that was never on the table. I believe the improvements built into the 4S have a lot of merit, along with IOS5. Most of the complaints I hear are that "The phone looks the same, so why buy it?"...this is from status seekers and fools, not semi-practical consumers in a ridiculously consumerism driven society :)

The same arguments as always: No memory slot and no removable battery. Valid points. All my previous phones had removable batteries, and I have always been a heavy user (4,000-5,000 minutes a month). Only a couple times have I ever had a second battery, charging in cars/walls was adequate 90+% of the time. This was before smartphones though, so not the best comparison. The memory slot issue is very valid, but not an issue for me as 32GB has been fine for now. Wireless syncing may help with that?

The great thing is that there is choice. Different strokes. I know why so many people complain about iPhone not being good enough for them. 1) They can't afford it, 2) They complain against anything that is top dog and the most popular and successful just to be different, 3) They are mini-Steve Jobs-wannabes and are pushing the envelope :)

I can guarantee this: If you use iPhone, then "the other guys stuff", the user interface and experience with iPhone is superior in almost all facets. I try it all, and I get iPhone because for the 90% of what I use it for, it is the best. No memory slot-3% bummer, no removable battery-5% bummer, no this or that 4% bummer....poor interface/experience, 100% bummer 100% of the time. I make my choice.

The moment there is something made by anybody that is superior, I'll jump ship. Just like I do when a better looking girl comes along.

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Offline Lanx

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« Reply #10 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 23:54:23 »
hmm i forgot about the battery too lol, I guess even if i have a droid and my fiance' has an iphone i'll forget these negs.

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« Reply #11 on: Mon, 17 October 2011, 00:07:02 »
Yes "the iPhone 4s is cool but how are people supposed to know that you are better then them if it looks exactly like an iphone 4?" <--- saw that somewhere and thought it was funny.

I have an upgrade in two months, and I am pretty sure that this will be the new phone for me. I am tired of my 3GS.

I am frankly disappointed in the fact that it is actually only 512mb of RAM, but apple always seems to make things run along smooth. I will say that the siri features are not great, my friend got hers the other day and we couldn't get anything to work. Word to the wise don't search for "Cape Horn" because you will get "Gay Porn".
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« Reply #12 on: Mon, 17 October 2011, 12:40:18 »
The iPhone/Android screens are too small for my taste so I'm using a cheap Samsung flip phone and an iPad 2.
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« Reply #13 on: Mon, 17 October 2011, 18:17:24 »
i upgraded from a droid to a droid charge. it's a good phone and probably the best single core phone out there from vzw. i wouldn't recommend it though because apparently a cyanogenmod build for it is multiple months away and the vzw android build it ships with it full of crapware that can't be removed. also there are better phones out there for the same price now.
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« Reply #14 on: Mon, 17 October 2011, 23:04:48 »
icecream sandwich and nexus announcement on tuesday i think, so i'll wait for that, droid razr too maybe.

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« Reply #15 on: Wed, 19 October 2011, 04:05:19 »
[video=youtube;elKxgsrJFhw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw[/video]
oh nexus prime is 4.65 in and i'm sure it'll have gorilla glass too.
http://techland.time.com/2011/10/19/samsung-announces-android-flagship-nexus-prime/
motorola razr got released too, guess i have to wait till november.

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« Reply #16 on: Wed, 19 October 2011, 12:05:33 »
definitely going to get the galaxy nexus
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« Reply #17 on: Wed, 19 October 2011, 17:09:39 »
wow, i clicked on comments on that video... why are ppl so stupid on youtube? lots of stupid posts "lol plastic vs. glass", "mac***s" all that
a quick google and here's stuff to know
the ppl who made the video, supply warranties for iphone so they basically are showing you, that you need a warranty
the iphone is made out of hard glass but not gorilla glass, we all know anything named gorilla is the best and gorilla glass is hela tough, which we can find out which devices use it here.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/#products-with-gorilla

iphone4 looks nice, but almost everyone i know has cracked their iphone, i don't know if they sit on it or play street hockey with it, and they are all technology uninclined, so i do NOT repair these phones for them (it'd be easy to buy a "kit" for like 100$ and swap out the glass from either ebay or ifixit) (i let my friends spend money on broken stuff, i never fix anything of theirs, i never touch their computers, i'm a friend not a tech). ah november release for either the razr or nexus, i'll have to wait for reviews, hopefully both on verizon and don't cost suckass super money.

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« Reply #18 on: Wed, 19 October 2011, 18:53:37 »
hmmm samsung galaxy sii search came up with this
[video=youtube;_d0LfkIut2M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d0LfkIut2M[/video]

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« Reply #19 on: Sat, 22 October 2011, 10:48:07 »
Quote from: ripster;434567
I use a $7 drug dealer burner phone.

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Feds haven't found me yet.

I currently use a Huawei u8160, bit more expensive but same idea.  Cheap, awful, prepaid phone that I don't have to care about losing.

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« Reply #20 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 21:28:42 »
Anybody ordered the Galaxy Nexus from Google Play? It's unlocked and goes for $399. T-Mobile / Walmart have a nice $30/month prepaid plan (callled monthly 4G) that would pair nicely with that phone... unlimited web (up to 5GB at 4G speeds) & text and 100 minutes talk per month.
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« Reply #21 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 22:17:02 »
I'm currently using an Xperia Arc, really happy with and have a year left on my contract but constantly keeping an eye on new Android phones coming out as to which to choose at the end of my contract.

I'm very interested in HTC phones but the plan I wanted only went with the awkward looking Incredible S, so I picked the Sony. Next phone I'll probably be buying outright and going back to prepaid though. The new One X sounds absolutely mighty with a 1.5ghz quad core processor, 1gb ram and a 720 resolution, and just because I'm now in with the Sony phones the Xperia S is also really tempting, though lower on the specs.

One thing I'm noticing with these new phones that is a little disappointing is locked in batteries and memory slots, admittedly I don't carry extra batteries or memory cards, and 32gb cards they come with is more then enough, but I feel it's a design choice reminiscent of the iPhones which I was trying to keep away from going with an Android phone. Probably an extreme parallel but what if they do start forcing particular file formats and PC companion programs...

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« Reply #22 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 22:44:06 »
In regards to iPhone 4 fragility. I can attest that it, for the most part, is fragile as hell if it meets "just the right" situations. Like flying out of your shirt pocket on to concrete, getting hit out of your hand and flying into a car, or having a hard shell case on day one, and the back glass shattering in your pocket from "incorrectly sitting". All which happened to me within 14 months. I'm on my 3rd iPhone 4. The last one I replaced the back with a $6 replacement from some guy on Craigslist and took it back to Apple. They replaced it on the spot free of charge for a "hairline crack" on the front, (was in the 90 warranty.) I did have to pay $150 for the 2nd replacement because it was 2 months out of warranty. I will say, my circumstances aren't unique to me only, but they aren't AS common (except the sitting and the shirt pocket), they should still be look at in terms of risk vs reward. I wear slacks all day, almost every day, and it's just too damn uncomfortable with the otterbox defender case, so I have a "cheap" hard-shell slimline plastic case, hopefully will get me another 14 months.


The iPhone 4 Battery is VERY easy to replace, and the Apple Store informed me 2 weeks ago, that, opening the back really won't void the warranty, or at least, they don't really care.. YMMV, but you do need a Pentalobe screwdriver, and a small phillips. Two screws on the bottom, then one on the battery connector, and it pops out easily enough.

My 3GS however, was pretty damn tough. Even when it wasn't inside the otterbox case. AND, the LCD and Digitizer were not fuzed together, allowing for much cheaper repairs. Screw replacing the battery as easily though.

All that said, I've used my father's "Note" and my friends' (plural possessive) G2s, Droids, and the ilk. I try not to judge blindly. But of all the ones I've tried, none of the interfaces felt nearly as seamless and fluid as iOS. Verizon phones however failed doubly bad in my opinion.  I do dislike Apple's avoidance to allowing proper use of our devices, features like the serial interface, WIFI WarDriving Apps, and other useful features would be a great boon to people in my position, especially if it would allow me to avoid jailbreaking if I needed to use them.

(Yes, I know the Serial API's are now technically available to developers, but only to approved hardware vendors, last I checked, not my Cisco Rollover Cables.)

As far as Apps go, I use OS X daily, so it does also allow for a better integration to my daily life. I would not get a iPhone 4S however. The price vs feature difference is not justifiable imho.

Anyway, I lost interest in my point, so... good luck in your search.

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« Reply #23 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 23:33:32 »
I was dumbfounded when I discovered that the original iPhone could not do file transfer over bluetooth. I mean, to me it was a given, Nokia phones have been doing it since what, 2001 ?
Yeah the iPhone is fluid but it's so crippled it's unbelievable. I haven't been following, so can the iPhone natively transfer a file via bluetooth these days or they are still in the 1990s in that department?
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« Reply #24 on: Fri, 27 April 2012, 19:11:09 »
No, not even the 4's can transfer via bluetooth. Though I think they have bluetooth functionality for hands free car sets and such.

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« Reply #25 on: Tue, 01 May 2012, 04:36:24 »
Quote from: All The Fire;584354
No, not even the 4's can transfer via bluetooth. Though I think they have bluetooth functionality for hands free car sets and such.

you have to jailbreak(which all iphones should be jailbroken) and goto the cydia store and buy ibluetooth(i think)
again anything you can't do with your iphone, cydia has an app for it.
fiance' had to transfer receipts (phone pics) w/o itunes (cuz company computer), she said it worked. (first thing i did with that iphone besides downloading itunes to register it? wtf, was to jailbreak it, ugh horrible phone)

btw since i made this thread, it's really time to upgrade i'mma gonna check out the droid razr i think.

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« Reply #26 on: Tue, 01 May 2012, 08:21:56 »
And if you have to do all that than I don't see buying an iphone in the first place a good idea. And I hate being told iphone has all the good apps, the only good apps are email, banking and calculator (I'm RPN dependent) apps and android has em all. Everything else is just fun/fluff.

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« Reply #27 on: Tue, 01 May 2012, 09:16:04 »
It all depends on how you use your phone. I've never really used my phone to store random data or files. And for those few things I do get off it, I upload to photobucket or dropbox. I change computers far too often and I'm never at any one computer long enough to create a "permanent" home anymore. But, I'm probably in the vast minority. Hell, even at home, I've got my iMac, My FBSD box, and my Window's Machine, plus the kids' hackintosh, the gf's hackintosh, and the HTPC. I used to host a smb share on the FBSD box, but it's much easier to stream everything now, especially since I move every year. In fact, my iPad and iPhone are my most used devices for work/play. The only reason I really have three OS's/PC's now is for programming and Nostalgia.

The new Droids do look nice, I will give you that, but the iPhone does do it's job well as a phone and media device. Again, it's all in how you use the things around you, if you dislike jailbreaking, or MUST have a particular feature, then by all means, use the phone that meets those needs, and don't let anyone chastise you for your choice. That's the beauty of Democracy and Capitalism. There is always a choice.

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« Reply #28 on: Tue, 01 May 2012, 09:19:00 »
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That's the beauty of Democracy and Capitalism. There is always a choice.


And by choosing apple you accept to let them remove your possibility to choose ;).

But this would be trolling.

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« Reply #29 on: Tue, 01 May 2012, 09:28:53 »
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And by choosing apple you accept to let them remove your possibility to choose ;).

But this would be trolling.

Yes that would be trolling. You do have the right to jailbreak your device, they can't take that right from you. Apple is no worse than Verizon, Motorola, or any number of vendors. Verizon is infamous with installing their own bloatware, and forcing you to use their app services, Apple also forces you to use their App Store, Windows Phone also forces you to use theirs, and pay a premium for additional features.

You become a sheep when you accept ignorance. Knowing what options you have, and using them to your best advantage, assures you that you can never be taken advantage of.

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« Reply #30 on: Tue, 01 May 2012, 09:52:16 »
I've got a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and came from a HTC Magic (the second mainstream Android phone on the market) from 3 years back.  Both have been great, and I'm really glad I decided to go the Android route.  My wife's got an iPhone 4, and prior to that a collection of BlackBerries.  Before my droids, I had a Moto Razr, and while I love and appreciate the simplicity of a phone being a phone, I really do love my droids.
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« Reply #31 on: Tue, 01 May 2012, 16:16:41 »
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I've got a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and came from a HTC Magic (the second mainstream Android phone on the market) from 3 years back.  Both have been great, and I'm really glad I decided to go the Android route.  My wife's got an iPhone 4, and prior to that a collection of BlackBerries.  Before my droids, I had a Moto Razr, and while I love and appreciate the simplicity of a phone being a phone, I really do love my droids.

lol basically same upgrade path, even with the wife ha, i'm thinking about the nexus too (mainly cuz of ICS), opinion?

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« Reply #32 on: Tue, 01 May 2012, 20:04:40 »
I currently have some low end **** Android Phone (upgrade soon) and I was able to root and overclock it (stupid simple on Android), and it has run pretty smooth for about 1.5 years. I also have an HP touchpad that I flashed ICS Cyanogenmod onto, and it runs beautifully as well @1.7ghz. My dad has the original Evo, and it is pretty good, but he also has a 4S, and using both of them, I honestly prefer the Evo, due to the higher number of options. If you have already adapted to an Android, then I would recommend wholeheartedly getting an Android, maybe the Razr, although that is up to you.

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« Reply #33 on: Tue, 01 May 2012, 23:15:18 »
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lol basically same upgrade path, even with the wife ha, i'm thinking about the nexus too (mainly cuz of ICS), opinion?

well, 2.2 was getting pretty tired on my magic, i was having issues with stability and there wasn't any good development happening any more.  i was well and ready for a new phone a good 6 months before the GNex was released on the market, but I knew I had a hardware renewal coming up on my contract, otherwise I would have likely jumped on the Galaxy S2.

the HD screen and being a dev platform were the most important to me, the camera and LTE were definitely not the priority.  as a result, the GNex was the ideal phone. being a dev platform was important, since i like having customized roms/ui and they're going to be developed first and longest on the Google dev phone.  no need to wait for drivers and ports.

in short, i love it.  my wife, however, is your 'ideal' iphone user, and can't and hasn't been bothered to figure out how to use it.
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« Reply #34 on: Wed, 02 May 2012, 00:24:02 »
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in short, i love it.  my wife, however, is your 'ideal' iphone user, and can't and hasn't been bothered to figure out how to use it.
same here! i mean i will not belittle my woman, she more gamer cred than i do, and she's an engineer, but she just pick it up and use it, rather than learn it and that's why iphone is great. Which is also so blasphemous for me. My friends know me as a mac hater, yet bought ipods for my moms and recommend my whole family to use em. I have all the i's in the household, itouch/phone/pad. Are they the best? no, they just work well, of course when i use em i make sure they're jailbroken, otherwise i can't use them ha, i can't imagine why anyone would want to use an i-device and not jailbreak it? it's like riding a bike on a highway.

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« Reply #35 on: Wed, 02 May 2012, 10:30:11 »
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i can't imagine why anyone would want to use an i-device and not jailbreak it? it's like riding a bike on a highway.

For the same reasons you listed before this statement. :) "It just works."

If all you use it for is basic music, email, web, alarm, phone and angry birds for the kids, there's no real reason to jailbreak it. I'm still all about hardware hacking and rooting my devices when it is of benefit to me. (My Chumby makes a wonderful Wireless Repeater. )

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« Reply #36 on: Wed, 02 May 2012, 10:35:31 »
Rooting an Android device can have a lot of good side-benefits.  For example, you get upgrades faster unlike iOS where jailbreaking keeps you from getting upgrades in many cases.  Backing up your system in different/better ways (NANDroid, Ti Backup) is a big help, too, especially when getting a new phone/tablet or moving apps from your phone to tablet (with data) and vice versa.  For this reason, and for a quasi-Apple UX, I stay with Google Experience Devices (Nexus series, XOOM).  I had an HTC Evo 4G at one time and while the hardware was good, Sense totally blows.


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« Reply #37 on: Sun, 22 July 2012, 22:15:17 »
I smashed the screen of my xperia arc about 3 months ago or so, $200 to $240 to fix. I wasn't really keen to spend so much to stay with android at the time but I really missed the conversation format of messaging and the RealCalc app.

Been looking at phones on and off, S3, One X, Galaxy Nexus all look great but are very costly, up to $770 here for the S3. Considered getting the GS2, they're going around $530-$550 still, just off their popularity no doubt, but then I saw the Sony Xperia S in JB HiFi for $480 last week, couldn't resist, last I'd seen it was the same price as the GS2 and $480 seemed like a justifiable price compared to what it would cost to get my arc fixed and the improvements in this model. As Sony's current highend model it's well underpowered compared to the highend models from Samsung and HTC, it's pretty much on par with the GS2 yet runs the higher 1280x720 resolution which looks incredible. All in all I think it's a great cost effective mid to high end model for android, also came unlocked so I don't have to put up with all those happyty carrier apps, which is a great positive.
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« Reply #38 on: Mon, 23 July 2012, 01:49:28 »
good lord, i just upgraded to the galaxy s3, wow, ,seriously the screen, the size itself is as big as an iphone. I take out my s3 now and go holy smokes my itouch(which i use for jogging) is so tiny, plus it's way lighter than an iphone4 and there's no more jean bulge. oh and when i got it, the first thing i did was root it, why? delete the STUPID verizon apps, wtf do i want verizon app or verizon navigator for? i have the droid store and google maps! this is why rooting/jailbreaking is necessary.

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« Reply #39 on: Mon, 23 July 2012, 20:16:20 »
Yeah, the resolution on all the new models look incredible. I set all my fonts as small as possible, the letters are tiny, the lines paper thin, yet it's all so crisp and clear, there's so much room.

What's the camera on the S3 like? The Sony's 12mp camera is only at a 4:3 resolution, it's 9mp at the 16:9 resolution, it works out to just a 72dpi. They look amazing on the phones screen, but of course there is a lot of noise upon viewing on the PC. Doesn't handle direct sunlight/glare very well so to get a good photo you have to get around to find an angle but when you do, the colours look really good. It does handle indoor lighting a lot better than my arc, got some actually decent photos in my crappily lit bedroom whereas the arc just gave me crap photos.
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Re: droid/iphone
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 23 July 2012, 22:26:57 »
good lord, i just upgraded to the galaxy s3, wow, ,seriously the screen, the size itself is as big as an iphone. I take out my s3 now and go holy smokes my itouch(which i use for jogging) is so tiny, plus it's way lighter than an iphone4 and there's no more jean bulge. oh and when i got it, the first thing i did was root it, why? delete the STUPID verizon apps, wtf do i want verizon app or verizon navigator for? i have the droid store and google maps! this is why rooting/jailbreaking is necessary.

LOL...the carriers can be blamed for all of that pain.  Trust me, we don't want to lock down our phones.  All that security B.S. is a ton of work.
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Re: droid/iphone
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 24 July 2012, 01:58:01 »
actually i never tested out the camera yet... will do tommorrow.