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« on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 13:06:02 »
Messed up the thread title, this board has Cherry BROWN switches



go here: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?23712-Limited-Edition-Metallic-Blue-Filco-MJ2-w-Cherry-MX-BROWN-switches
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« Reply #1 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 13:21:37 »
that price is even more than Amazon's ...

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« Reply #2 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 13:35:19 »
I'd love an explanation for your statement that you like blue switches better, so you won't be needing this board that happens to have blue switches.... that's just strange.
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« Reply #3 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 14:08:50 »
http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-Metallic-Keyboard-FKBN104MC2-AI/dp/B004X4TA7S/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1320610047&sr=8-2

$159 for a brand new one, free 1-2 day shipping.

This guy probably thinks we're stupid.

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« Reply #4 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 15:18:44 »
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I'd love an explanation for your statement that you like blue switches better, so you won't be needing this board that happens to have blue switches.... that's just strange.
i shouldnt post when im so  tired. This board has brown switches.

This was listed at this price because i was asked in another thread how much i would sell for instead of getting full cash rufund.  So that is the price listed here +add the money i spent on 1 day shpping to myself +add paypal fee.

I dont know why anyone would pay so much for this board, i assumed it was because it is not avaliable in certian regions. If i listed here for 159$ i would be loosing money when i can simply return item and lose nothing.
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« Reply #5 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 15:26:11 »
I would not pay $195 for a filco when I could get a realforce keyboard from another seller in the classifieds for $165. I think you should reconsider your price. Here is the link to the realforce just in case you don't believe me : http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?23703-Filco-Majestouch-1-(blue-case-MX-brown)-Topre-103UB-variable

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« Reply #6 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 15:30:11 »
no one will buy this you might as well return it

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« Reply #7 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 15:31:24 »
Losing money is a part of buying something brand new and then selling it.

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« Reply #8 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 15:34:00 »
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Losing money is a part of buying something brand new and then selling it.
Agreed. This guy is off his rocker. :crazy:

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« Reply #9 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 15:35:28 »
Then i will just RETURN it and not lose any money. I was under the assumption that someone in say new zealeand does not have access to this board via amazon. This listing was clearly not for anyone who can just order from amazon w free shipping.
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« Reply #10 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 15:38:01 »
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Agreed. This guy is off his rocker. :crazy:
Are you familar with amazons 30 day full refund return policy?
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« Reply #11 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 15:38:44 »
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Agreed. This guy is off his rocker. :crazy:
Are you familar with amazons 30 day full refund return policy? LOL
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« Reply #12 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 15:39:02 »
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Then i will just RETURN it and not lose any money. I was under the assumption that someone in say new zealeand does not have access to this board via amazon. This listing was clearly not for anyone who can just order from amazon w free shipping.
So you thought you would make a bit of money off them?

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« Reply #13 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 15:41:24 »
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So you thought you would make a bit of money off them?

Why am i explajning this for a 3rd time?

159 base price+  the 1 day shipping i paid for + paypal fees for this transaction
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« Reply #14 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 15:42:34 »
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Are you familar with amazons 30 day full refund return policy? LOL
Yeah, I'm familiar with it. I was just trying to figure out why you were trying to make money off of this?

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« Reply #15 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 15:48:01 »
Having someone cover your 1day shipping costs when doing a resell is illogical at best. Very few people do overnight shipping BECAUSE it costs an arm and a leg.
I like my Browns more than my Blues.

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« Reply #16 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 15:49:35 »
well at least he was nice enough to offer to pay paypal fees? lol
No, he’s not around. How that sound to ya? Jot it down.

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« Reply #17 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 15:59:28 »
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Having someone cover your 1day shipping costs when doing a resell is illogical at best. Very few people do overnight shipping BECAUSE it costs an arm and a leg.


What seems illogical to me is to sell this and lose money when I could easily return it and not lose money ...

I was asked:
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If you were going to sell it how much would you consider and would you ship it to New Zealand?
It's so hard to get anything decent shipping price to this small middle of nowhere little island lol.

This thread is a response to that question. I would like to return this item for a refund, but if one is willing to pay the price that will allow me to not lose money, I will be happy to ship this anywhere around the world to the buyer.

I understand if you all are still confused, but I've tried to explain it the best I can after working a triple shift with no sleep in over 36 hours. Thanks.
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« Reply #18 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 16:00:51 »
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well at least he was nice enough to offer to pay paypal fees? lol
Really?

I've stated all the way since my original post that the paypal fees are included in the price. In no way does that mean that I am covering them.. They're built into the cost....
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« Reply #19 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 16:09:58 »
so you're charging next day shipping, do you promise next day shipping?
No, he’s not around. How that sound to ya? Jot it down.

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« Reply #20 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 16:12:46 »
He started a new thread selling the same board. :rofl:

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« Reply #21 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 16:13:07 »
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What seems illogical to me is to sell this and lose money when I could easily return it and not lose money ...

I was asked:
This thread is a response to that question. I would like to return this item for a refund, but if one is willing to pay the price that will allow me to not lose money, I will be happy to ship this anywhere around the world to the buyer.

I understand if you all are still confused, but I've tried to explain it the best I can after working a triple shift with no sleep in over 36 hours. Thanks.

it's illogical to sell it and lose money, yet here you are doing it

ok...

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« Reply #22 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 16:13:45 »
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so you're charging next day shipping, do you promise next day shipping?
I am not offering next day shipping. I originally paid for 1 day shipping when I purchased the item. I am asking the buyer to cover MY costs if they wish to purchase the item.
The buyer of the item can pick what ever shipping service they'd like.
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« Reply #23 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 16:15:03 »
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What seems illogical to me is to sell this and lose money when I could easily return it and not lose money ...
Amazon refunds 1 day shipping also? DAMNNNNN I didn't know that
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« Reply #24 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 16:15:11 »
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it's illogical to sell it and lose money, yet here you are doing it

ok...
I am here to sell at my asking price. If that happens, I will not lose money, do you understand? If however I did not factor in the costs of paypal fees, and my original shipping costs, I will be losing money. Please please think about this before you reply again.
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« Reply #25 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 16:15:28 »
So you are charging them for your one day delivery (that I don't think amazon will cover on return) then saying they have to pay for theirs as well?

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« Reply #26 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 16:17:26 »
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So you are charging them for your one day delivery (that I don't think amazon will cover on return) then saying they have to pay for theirs as well?
They don't he's just looking for some poor fool to cover all his costs cuz if he returns it to amazon he loses money lol
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« Reply #27 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 16:18:23 »
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So you are charging them for your one day delivery (that I don't think amazon will cover on return) then saying they have to pay for theirs as well?

Right, I'm not doing it to be cruel or mean, I'm sorry it seems that way. I was asked
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If you were going to sell it how much would you consider and would you ship it to New Zealand?
It's so hard to get anything decent shipping price to this small middle of nowhere little island lol.

This is the price I'd like to sell for if I "were going to sell it". If you don't like the price, feel free to make an offer via PM, all offers considered.
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« Reply #28 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 16:22:16 »
Why don't you just sell it to the person who asked you?

I would like to make an offer..... $159 + free shipping.

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« Reply #30 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 16:29:49 »
He is not a troll, he just wants a buyer to cover everything including his next day delivery he choose.

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« Reply #31 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 16:30:58 »
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Why don't you just sell it to the person who asked you?

I would like to make an offer..... $159 + free shipping.

Why would you buy it at amazon price when you can pay more than that for the same thing!?

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« Reply #32 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 16:39:45 »
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Why would you buy it at amazon price when you can pay more than that for the same thing!?
That is a valid point. I think it's because I am a very cheap person. :pound:

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« Reply #33 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 16:59:40 »
Guys, what this guy is doing is not hard to understand and it's not shady.  Let's stop giving him grief about it.  He has the option of getting all his money back, or getting all his money back and helping out a geekhacker who can't normally get this board.  What's the problem?

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« Reply #34 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 17:01:36 »
This is probably a big reason he's being ragged on.
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« Reply #35 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 17:04:50 »
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Wow, I don't think you guys understand the concept of Opportunity Cost.  Or are even more jingoistic than I am.  Not all Geekhackers have easy access to this keyboard.

If you don't want to buy it stay the **** out of the thread.
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« Reply #36 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 17:34:50 »
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Guys, what this guy is doing is not hard to understand and it's not shady.  Let's stop giving him grief about it.  He has the option of getting all his money back, or getting all his money back and helping out a geekhacker who can't normally get this board.  What's the problem?
He can't get all his money back, that's the point. His one day shipping is what ran the price so high to begin with. Now he's wishing to sell this keyboard at full price + the one day shipping fee HE paid + new shipping to wherever.

Given, he has the right to sell it at whatever price he wishes, but to phrase it like he's helping someone out, oh please. What it looks me at least is that he's trying to recoup his entire cost, and simply returning the item would not fulfill that. That is the problem I have with this, not because of how he priced it.
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« Reply #37 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 20:27:15 »
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He can't get all his money back, that's the point. His one day shipping is what ran the price so high to begin with. Now he's wishing to sell this keyboard at full price + the one day shipping fee HE paid + new shipping to wherever.

Given, he has the right to sell it at whatever price he wishes, but to phrase it like he's helping someone out, oh please. What it looks me at least is that he's trying to recoup his entire cost, and simply returning the item would not fulfill that. That is the problem I have with this, not because of how he priced it.


You couldn't be more wrong, but thanks again for sharing. I've explained myself to you multiple times and I've had no obligation to do so, except to protect my own identity here through the personal attacks you and the rest the users that ganged up on me decided to dish out. I'm going to explain myself one more time, except this time I'll do it from the keyboard and not my phone so I can hopefully do a better job of spelling things out for you. After this, I have to get back to reality as I'm on the clock at work and I don't like to spend a ton of time on people who are so bent on bad mouthing me that they can't get their head straight enough to fit some reason and logic into their opinions. I hope you find this explanation sufficient enough to satisfy you.

I've been on this website for about 3 days I think, I'm still finding my way around and getting a feel for things. Not only am I new here, but I'm new to mechanical keyboards. I don't know how limited of a limited edition this keyboard is; I don't know its value in other countries, or even it's availability. I don't know how long it's been on the market, I don't even know its availability in my own country. I really am clueless about all that, I admit it 100%, so if you feel the price of the keyboard is too high, maybe it is. I've never said it wasn't. When dealing with buying and selling with individuals online, I will always welcome negotiations, offers, questions, concerns, all with an open mind. The world is a diverse place and I've dealt with all sorts of people who have their own way about approaching a deal and managing it..

Your concern is that I'm trying to recoup the entire sum of money I've spend on this keyboard. Well, its true, you got me, that's exactly what I'm doing.

As of this morning, I had every intention of returning this keyboard for a refund and stated so in one of my other threads. Not long after, I saw RenoFox's comment in that same thread where he expressed interest in possibly buying the keyboard off me instead of me having to return it. In the same sentence, he mentioned that it's so hard for him to get decent stuff in New Zealand. Clear so far?

Now Renofox didn't seem over enthusiastic, and he hasn't expressed any more interest than he already did, so a little light bulb went off in my head, and I realized that I have 30 days from the date of purchase to get a refund on the keyboard; in the meantime, I could list it here on geekhack for free, advertise to people all over the world; some of whom may be interested in this keyboard because they're unable to find it in their area.

So obviously I had to decide on a price, and I did. Clearly it wouldn't be in my interest to list it at the same price I bought it as there are added costs for selling items, especially overseas. If the item sells outside of the US I'll have to take time out of work to go to the post office myself, fill out customs forms, get it insured, and worry about tracking and making sure the buyer isn't someone who is likely to rip me off and try and get his money back from paypal after he gets the item. Even more so, there are paypal fees, which is 4%, it may even be more for international payments, but I'm not sure. That's how I was able to come to a price. I'm in a unique situation where I can very well click a button, print a free shipping label and collect the refund in my bank account in a few days hassle free. So clearly now I'm not going to sell the item to someone just to spread Filco love if it means I'm lose more money on my purchase then I would a store refund.

So where does that bring us in this gigantic waste of time... hmm.

Is the price high? I don't know. I don't know because I didn't find any other limited edition metallic blue Filco Keyboards with Cherry browns listed in the classifieds here. I don't know how much they sell for in other countries, I don't even know if anyone is going to be interested enough to click the link; but I know enough to know that if I start the price as low as possible, I'm shooting myself in the foot and have no room to negotiate with potential buyers and stand to look bad to potential buyers (who are almost always thrilled to be able to talk a few bucks off a seller, and like I've said, I welcome that.)

If you're still offended then there is really nothing more I can say. I'm sorry that you find it offensive that I attempted to seize the moment, but opportunity makes the world spin: I have an opportunity to make a few bucks, and someone on a different side of the world from me can get the keyboard that not only will enhance their time spent at the computer, but also make them feel like they've got a unique Filco board they can show off to friends.

I know you're probably a good person but I don't deserve to be treated like an enemy. I'll always try to be one the most caring, considerate people you'll meet, and I hope you can get to know me better, and I you.

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« Reply #38 on: Sun, 06 November 2011, 20:44:30 »
Hey guys, you want to know the great thing about being a consumer?

If you don't want it, don't buy it.

If you want it, buy it.

cool, right?
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