Author Topic: Aluminum alloy anodized casing for poker done (Read 16751 times)

imsto · « **on:** Mon, 07 November 2011, 20:27:54 »

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tsangan · « **Reply #1 on:** Mon, 07 November 2011, 20:30:58 »

Looks great!

Now i need to find someone to trade me a blue/red one for my silver one >_>

Or maybe my silver one would look good with white keys, either way can't wait!!!!

demik · « **Reply #2 on:** Mon, 07 November 2011, 20:34:48 »

i KNEW i made the right choice getting red. they look incredible!

now to wait for my black engraved poker x set

jpm804 · « **Reply #3 on:** Mon, 07 November 2011, 20:37:14 »

Those looks great, I think I made the right choice with the red, the anodizing turned out good for it and didnt come out pinkish.

That Blue looks good also and was my second choice.... food for thought for round 2 if it does happen.

Thanks also imsto for the pics... did they ship out already?

demik · « **Reply #4 on:** Mon, 07 November 2011, 20:40:59 »

Quote from: jpm804;447719

Those looks great, I think I made the right choice with the red, the anodizing turned out good for it and didnt come out pinkish.

That Blue looks good also and was my second choice.... food for thought for round 2 if it does happen.

Thanks also imsto for the pics... did they ship out already?

this picture made me decide to go red

i was also thinking of blue, because it looks awesome with white keycaps

jpm804 · « **Reply #5 on:** Mon, 07 November 2011, 20:42:57 »

Quote from: demik;447720

this picture made me decide to go red

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i was also thinking of blue, because it looks awesome with white keycaps

I thought the same thing also when I saw that pic, but your right the blue looked good with the white keycaps.

jpm804 · « **Reply #6 on:** Mon, 07 November 2011, 20:44:50 »

Quote from: tsangan;447714

Looks great!

Now i need to find someone to trade me a blue/red one for my silver one >_>

Or maybe my silver one would look good with white keys, either way can't wait!!!!

The Silver one looks clean.... Did you make sure to order the white engraved set from Imav's GB?

tsangan · « **Reply #7 on:** Mon, 07 November 2011, 20:59:39 »

I missed it sadly ;(

Need to find someone to buy a white set now

chel- · « **Reply #8 on:** Mon, 07 November 2011, 20:59:50 »

Really sick. Did I miss the group buy for this or something?

mmmty · « **Reply #9 on:** Mon, 07 November 2011, 22:43:53 »

Hey I posted that red poker pic, you both owe me something!!

tsangan, that silver case with black keys looks good. I think you should go with black keycaps.

Index · « **Reply #10 on:** Mon, 07 November 2011, 22:46:32 »

I'm so excited for this. Going to get custom Doubleshot DSAs from SP for this. I'm also going to be ordering a custom PCB for this, and plate. Just need to measure out the dimensions. Can't wait.

jpm804 · « **Reply #11 on:** Mon, 07 November 2011, 22:56:28 »

Quote from: tsangan;447738

I missed it sadly ;(

Need to find someone to buy a white set now

From iMavs thread it looks like he has some extra's he ordered and he has some white engraved poker one's. you should pm him to see if he has any left.

Also if dont like the color you can probably just paint it or re-anodize it( not sure if that is possible but maybe)

himynameisbunny · « **Reply #12 on:** Mon, 07 November 2011, 23:24:31 »

Is there any way to get one now or have I missed the boat?

demik · « **Reply #13 on:** Mon, 07 November 2011, 23:26:31 »

for now? nope.

but imsto said he might do another run

jpm804 · « **Reply #14 on:** Mon, 07 November 2011, 23:26:47 »

Quote from: himynameisbunny;447813

Is there any way to get one now or have I missed the boat?

This round is closed, imsto said there might be future rounds but hasnt confirmed anything concrete yet.

reaper · « **Reply #15 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 00:21:05 »

Does it come with those 2 different height nubs in the last picture to be used as stands? Either way, can't wait. =P

tsangan · « **Reply #16 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 00:23:23 »

Comes with 3 height nubs from what I know

reaper · « **Reply #17 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 00:28:15 »

Very cool. It might even look good with some white keycaps (the silver one).

mmmty · « **Reply #18 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 00:42:02 »

Quote from: reaper;447848

Very cool. It might even look good with some white keycaps (the silver one).

I think I saw that some where. Oh! It's Apple keyboard.

mmmty · « **Reply #19 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 00:43:00 »

Quote from: reaper;447848

Very cool. It might even look good with some white keycaps (the silver one).

I think I saw that some where. Oh! It's Apple keyboard.

laffindude · « **Reply #20 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 00:48:22 »

That red is really nicely done. Alot of red anodized parts come out pinkish.

Nighted · « **Reply #21 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 01:41:39 »

Next round count me in.

I think once these get out the door and into use the demand will be a lot higher.

Gin · « **Reply #22 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 01:57:04 »

Those look very good. Have fun everyone who's getting it!

And post pictures of em when you do get em

BiNiaRiS · « **Reply #23 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 02:07:57 »

how about that cad file so we can get a handful of these made in the US?

fossala · « **Reply #24 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 02:38:20 »

I agree, but if they can manage to rip people off with a $140 pricetag there not going to release the cad file, I wouldn't think.

laffindude · « **Reply #25 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 02:44:33 »

If he can sell them for 140 (I think is overpriced too), good for him.

kriminal · « **Reply #26 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 06:34:03 »

if there is going to be another run of this count me in!

EDIT: and oh yeah **** the newbie haters that say this is a rip-off, ever try try pricing something made to spec via CNC milling and powder coating?

check mountainmods dot com, it makes CNC milled PC cases, mind you i find the pricing quite reasonable.

alaricljs · « **Reply #27 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 06:55:41 »

If you think $140 is unreasonable for a CNC machined block of aluminum that size then you haven't looked at getting it done in the US.

laffindude · « **Reply #28 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 09:57:21 »

imsto is not from the US.

alaricljs · « **Reply #29 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 10:56:45 »

Never said imsto was from the US. I was commenting to this:

Quote from: fossala;447889

I agree, but if they can manage to rip people off with a $140 pricetag there not going to release the cad file, I wouldn't think.

$140 for a CNC'd hunk of aluminum that size is not a rip off. Hell of a lot cheaper than getting the same thing done in the US (likely the UK where fossala is as well).

kriminal · « **Reply #30 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 10:56:46 »

Quote from: laffindude;447958

imsto is not from the US.

hence meaning the price will most likely be more than the $140 pricetag....

Index · « **Reply #31 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 10:58:59 »

Don't worry guys, they're just jealous b/c they're not getting one of them sexy aluminum poker cases.

fossala · « **Reply #32 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 11:02:30 »

Quote from: alaricljs;447988

Never said imsto was from the US. I was commenting to this:

$140 for a CNC'd hunk of aluminum that size is not a rip off. Hell of a lot cheaper than getting the same thing done in the US (likely the UK where fossala is as well).

I didn't know it would cost that much.

alaricljs · « **Reply #33 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 11:04:26 »

Time is money. CNC machine time quadruply so. You have to amortize the cost of the machine, pay for the power, cutting bits and coolant. Then you also have to pay the dude who is running the machine.

I think I saw anodizing costs around $40/ea in low quantities for something this size in the US.

laffindude · « **Reply #34 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 11:43:59 »

How much it cost to make have no bearing on the perception of how much things should cost. How many non-enthusiasts think mechanical keyboards are overpriced? They can't all be jealous of mechanical keyboard users.

dorkvader · « **Reply #35 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 19:08:24 »

Quote from: alaricljs;447998

Time is money. CNC machine time quadruply so. You have to amortize the cost of the machine, pay for the power, cutting bits and coolant. Then you also have to pay the dude who is running the machine.

I think I saw anodizing costs around $40/ea in low quantities for something this size in the US.

While you can home-anodyze (especially if you have a low voltage high current power supply, like I do) the finish really doesn't come out as nice as if you get it done professionally.

imsto · « **Reply #36 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 19:23:11 »

1 step get the material aluminum alloy board
2 cut it to almost fits the shape
3 cnc it, and make all the holes, esp the hoe for miniUSB
4 do something to make the surface to be more smooth
5 do 4 again so it may be easy to be anodized
6 anodize it

it's a little bit easier to make the nubs.
1 get a aluminus alloy stick
2 make the nubs with a lathe
3 make the surface smooth
4 anodize

there're two types of rubber nubs, so two mold needed.

dorkvader · « **Reply #37 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 20:07:29 »

Quote from: imsto;448280

1 step get the material aluminum alloy board
2 cut it to almost fits the shape
3 cnc it, and make all the holes, esp the hoe for miniUSB
4 do something to make the surface to be more smooth
5 do 4 again so it may be easy to be anodized
6 anodize it

it's a little bit easier to make the nubs.
1 get a aluminus alloy stick
2 make the nubs with a lathe
3 make the surface smooth
4 anodize

there're two types of rubber nubs, so two mold needed.

How about:
1. powder metallurgy.

Actually, I kid. While it would be possible, I imagine it'd be prohibitively expensive as you need to vacuum sinter it. On a related note, how hard is it to make a conventional oven airtight?

But sill: the idea that SP could in theory make metal or ceramic keycaps with similar (or the same) machines they use now to injection mold plastic is pretty cool.

alaricljs · « **Reply #38 on:** Tue, 08 November 2011, 21:15:02 »

Quote from: dorkvader;448272

While you can home-anodyze (especially if you have a low voltage high current power supply, like I do) the finish really doesn't come out as nice as if you get it done professionally.

I did not know this... how low/high. I think I have a 60Amp 5v PSU.

BiNiaRiS · « **Reply #39 on:** Wed, 09 November 2011, 01:56:41 »

Quote from: imsto;448280

1 step get the material aluminum alloy board
2 cut it to almost fits the shape
3 cnc it, and make all the holes, esp the hoe for miniUSB
4 do something to make the surface to be more smooth
5 do 4 again so it may be easy to be anodized
6 anodize it

it's a little bit easier to make the nubs.
1 get a aluminus alloy stick
2 make the nubs with a lathe
3 make the surface smooth
4 anodize

there're two types of rubber nubs, so two mold needed.

So were these done professionally?

I'm most interested in how those screw nubs work that allow the PCB to be screwed in. Are they just glued into a small hole that is cut into the metal?

litster · « **Reply #40 on:** Wed, 09 November 2011, 03:03:55 »

Quote from: BiNiaRiS;448431

I'm most interested in how those screw nubs work that allow the PCB to be screwed in. Are they just glued into a small hole that is cut into the metal?

I think they are called standoff screws, same as ones used in computer cases where you rest the motherboard on standoff screws and hold down the motherboard with another screw screwing into ther standoff screws.

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By the way, imsto, what is happening with bbs.kbc-china.com? It's been down for a couple of weeks. Or has the address changed?

Nighted · « **Reply #41 on:** Wed, 09 November 2011, 03:09:35 »

^ Also known as risers.

imsto · « **Reply #42 on:** Wed, 09 November 2011, 03:26:51 »

metallurgy there might be small holes on the surface I think. to make this kind of stuff stamping is the best way, but... it's usually for big ammount like ipad casing.

imsto · « **Reply #43 on:** Wed, 09 November 2011, 03:30:18 »

hi lister
the standoff screws are hand made by lathe just like the pics I posted on another thread. it's not the same as the ones used in desktop computers. so they are customized.
every parts of the casing is customized....

imsto · « **Reply #44 on:** Wed, 09 November 2011, 03:38:07 »

I'd move the web service of bbs.kbc-china.com from Hongkong to inside China, need some kind of certificaion, you know,thanks for the government.....

but it's almost finished, now can be visited with this : http://w197177.s98.myverydz.com/forum.php
when we get the certification http://www.likeyboard.com will also be the same as bbs.kbc-china.com
and http://www.aikb.com will start work together. aikb is just like a diy team,haha who made the aluminium casing.
aikb.taobao.com will also work too.

kriminal · « **Reply #45 on:** Wed, 09 November 2011, 05:50:29 »

imsto, if there is another run, count me in

imsto · « **Reply #46 on:** Wed, 09 November 2011, 08:48:29 »

I do not know when will be the next batch...

RiGS · « **Reply #47 on:** Wed, 09 November 2011, 09:23:55 »

imsto, do you have any new information about the experiments with the dye subbed & doubleshot pbt keycaps?

dorkvader · « **Reply #48 on:** Wed, 09 November 2011, 09:27:48 »

Quote from: alaricljs;448338

I did not know this... how low/high. I think I have a 60Amp 5v PSU.

Most of the sources I have read recommend a 6-12V PSU, like what car battery chargers use. though the process should (in theory) work at 5V, it will be much slower. You can use a computer power supply for this.

Quote from: imsto;448456

metallurgy there might be small holes on the surface I think. to make this kind of stuff stamping is the best way, but... it's usually for big ammount like ipad casing.

It would give it an excellent matte finish, though. Also, there are ways to make it closer to fully dense, liquid phase sintering for example. Your real problem would be the shrinkage while sintering. It's pretty easy to calculate this, though. For stamping, I would worry about internal stresses in the metal. It's what... 2 inches deep? No: CNC looks better.

Hmm, I wonder if some phantom-compatible cases could be made... I know I'd want one.

jpm804 · « **Reply #49 on:** Fri, 11 November 2011, 14:30:11 »

Imsto.... any information if they have been shipped out then?

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Author Topic: Aluminum alloy anodized casing for poker done (Read 16751 times)

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