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Offline vienbo

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I read the wiki of the mechanical MX cherrys
« on: Mon, 16 January 2012, 18:58:17 »
But I'm still confused on one subject. The blues and browns, people say that the browns are a lighter switch than the blues, and I do see that in the graphs, however, IS the difference in force that huge? I'm going to get the tkl blue cm storm soon and am afraid if it won't be to my liking, then I will have to send superbiiz the keyboard back.

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« Reply #1 on: Mon, 16 January 2012, 19:07:22 »
I think the most noticeable difference, is the "bump" on the blue will feel more significant on the blue. I've messed about a bit on my friends blackwidow and I personally own some brown boards.
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Offline Henry Allen Venture

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« Reply #2 on: Mon, 16 January 2012, 20:34:45 »
(In my experience) no the difference in force isn't very noticeable, to put it very shortly.

If you type for ages on one and quickly jump to another, you'll probably notice a difference in apparent stiffness.
Having said that, if you find MX Browns to be comfortable, it is highly unlikely that you'll find MX Blues to be too heavy (and vice versa).
The main difference is in the clicky sound (present in Blues and absent in Browns), and I believe the tactile bump is also more slightly pronounced on Blues, though I could be wrong.
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« Reply #3 on: Mon, 16 January 2012, 22:40:51 »

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« Reply #4 on: Tue, 17 January 2012, 00:49:38 »
I don't like how the pressure and operating points are so deep in on blues. I love the sound they make though, but sadly that's not enough to make me pick them over browns and reds.
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Offline Phiber

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« Reply #5 on: Tue, 17 January 2012, 01:10:08 »
I agree with Henry Allen Venture (he pays me to say that)

I have one of each - I use the blues for work and the browns for home.  I spend a considerable number of hours each day on both keyboards.  I am very fond of both.  You are very unlikely to notice the pressure difference between browns and blues (HUGE difference when compared to rubber domes though).  The clicky sound is, however, quite pronounced in comparison!

As a typer, I love the clicky, but it would clearly get on the nerves of my family (even if the home office door is closed - I tend to work late when everything is quiet).

What keyboard(s) are you thinking about?

Offline vienbo

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« Reply #6 on: Tue, 17 January 2012, 08:08:56 »
Quote from: Phiber;492226
I agree with Henry Allen Venture (he pays me to say that)

I have one of each - I use the blues for work and the browns for home.  I spend a considerable number of hours each day on both keyboards.  I am very fond of both.  You are very unlikely to notice the pressure difference between browns and blues (HUGE difference when compared to rubber domes though).  The clicky sound is, however, quite pronounced in comparison!

As a typer, I love the clicky, but it would clearly get on the nerves of my family (even if the home office door is closed - I tend to work late when everything is quiet).

What keyboard(s) are you thinking about?

I was  thinking about the cm storm and ordered it, its the blue switches that I ordered.
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« Reply #7 on: Tue, 17 January 2012, 09:58:02 »
Quote from: vienbo;492372
I was  thinking about the cm storm and ordered it, its the blue switches that I ordered.
I understand now and have no worries, thanks  Henry and phiber

Not a problem, dude.
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« Reply #8 on: Tue, 17 January 2012, 14:10:05 »
Quote from: oneproduct;492218
I don't like how the pressure and operating points are so deep in on blues. I love the sound they make though, but sadly that's not enough to make me pick them over browns and reds.

Its cos of the white plastic part that forms the tactile/click. It's loose when not pressed and slides up the stem a bit before it is pressed against the switch?
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« Reply #9 on: Tue, 17 January 2012, 15:48:09 »
I find the browns to be more tiring than blues because I tend to overshoot the activation point on the browns more often.
The Topre switches at 45 cN are supposed to have the same activation force, but I find them to be significantly more tiring than either Cherry switch.
How hard a switch feels like has to do with how hard you press and for how long you do it.
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« Reply #10 on: Tue, 17 January 2012, 19:55:21 »
The biggest difference between the 2 for me was noise.  Next came the feel of the tactile point.
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Offline iBro

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« Reply #11 on: Wed, 18 January 2012, 10:52:06 »
Quote from: Phiber;492226
I agree with Henry Allen Venture (he pays me to say that)

I have one of each - I use the blues for work and the browns for home.  I spend a considerable number of hours each day on both keyboards.  I am very fond of both.  You are very unlikely to notice the pressure difference between browns and blues (HUGE difference when compared to rubber domes though).  The clicky sound is, however, quite pronounced in comparison!

As a typer, I love the clicky, but it would clearly get on the nerves of my family (even if the home office door is closed - I tend to work late when everything is quiet).

What keyboard(s) are you thinking about?

I'm sorry but I don't really agree with this comment. I have typed on both blues and brown switches and I feel that blue switches feel very different than browns. The tactile bump on the blues is nice, crisp, and pleasant to type on. In my opinion, the tactile bump in the brown switches is so small and mushy that it actually makes the typing experience worse.

This is just my opinion, and obviously a lot of people like browns, but I feel that saying you won't really notice the difference in pressure and tactility when going between browns and blues is misleading.
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Offline Henry Allen Venture

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« Reply #12 on: Wed, 18 January 2012, 17:30:16 »
Quote from: iBro;493390
I'm sorry but I don't really agree with this comment. I have typed on both blues and brown switches and I feel that blue switches feel very different than browns. The tactile bump on the blues is nice, crisp, and pleasant to type on. In my opinion, the tactile bump in the brown switches is so small and mushy that it actually makes the typing experience worse.

This is just my opinion, and obviously a lot of people like browns, but I feel that saying you won't really notice the difference in pressure and tactility when going between browns and blues is misleading.

Well, speaking from my experience, all I can say is that the most apparent difference between the two is the clicky noise.
 
The Blues are more crisp to type on, yes, but its more a different tactile feel than the subtle bump on the Browns. Perhaps I should have been more clear earlier when I said that Blues might be more pronounced. The two definitely feel different, but I was referring specifically to the bump on the force curve being more pronounced.

I still think that the difference between the two in terms of force required to register a keypress is negligable by comparison. Like I said, I notice the difference in weight when I type on one keyboard, and immediately jump to the other. If you give it more than five minutes I wouldn't be able to tell the difference (if the noise and tactile feel weren't a factor).
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Cherry G80-3494(LCYUS-2), w/ MX Reds for Portal Mod

Not mine, but I\'ve got access to:
Filco Majestouch Linear R Limited Edition, w/ MX Reds
Filco Majestouch 2 \'Ninja\' Tenkeyless, w/ MX Blues
Leopold FC500R, w/ MX Browns

Offline Phiber

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« Reply #13 on: Thu, 19 January 2012, 02:34:48 »
I appreciate IBro's point - the keys do feel different while typing.  The context of the original question appears to be "IS the difference in force that huge" between the two.  The feel is different, but the pressure/force to register a keystroke between the Browns/Blues is not terribly noticeable to my hands.  If vienbo is moving from rubber domes, he/she is in for a treat.  I have to say, I really enjoy using both every day.