IC - 'Miami' 87+ set

[WorldExclusive]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP_0dDjoW_o



Yes it certainly is the best looking keyset that I've seen here as well.


Edit : In the OP it shows candy green, I think we need a cyan like maybe vco

It's more Green than Teal. Both colors need to be a bit darker.
We are looking for Maimi Dolphins Teal(Bluish Green) and Hot Pink, both colors are much deeper than the sample keys.
Get it as close to the sample photo as possible or we're not going to get the desired result.

@lysol

1x Miami 87
1x Numpad
1x Add On

[captain]

1x Miami 87
1x Numpad
1x Add On

Do you people not see my example photo of teal and cyan?  I'll try to give the exact SP chips later.

Oh. Nvm. I see you've chosen your colors. What SP codes are they?

[WorldExclusive]

Do you people not see my example photo of teal and cyan?  I'll try to give the exact SP chips later.

I saw it, I like the color of the circles. That's the teal I'm looking for.
If you can get chips for teal and cyan, that would be great.

[morgofborg]

1x Miami 87
1x Add On

And yeah the color of the circles is exactly what I am picturing.

[hazeluff]

Hey Lysol, is that keycap very green or is it just me?

[thegunner100]

It does look a bit greenish than teal.

1x Miami 87

[IvanIvanovich]

Flash probably made it look a little off, sorry about that. RCS and VBV are the colors shown. This is going to be the best SP has to offer in their stock color choices. Otherwise it is +$500 per custom color.

[Halverson]

1x Miami 87
1x Numpad
1x Add On

Lovin it!

[Nighted]

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[keyboardnoob]

Hey Lysol, is that keycap very green or is it just me?

agreed


1x Miami 87
1x Addon


The RCU looks way different than http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=41245&d=1329800361, so I'm guessing BBQ might actually be what would go well with RCU. Has there been a GB with BBQ before ? I'm curious to see what it'd look like.

[astr0s]

Im interested in

1x Miami 87
1x Numpad
1x ISO-set
1x Any modifier set you throw at me

Rendered the keycaps according to the pic in the original post, tad bit different, but not too bad
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/574006/CGI/kbs/filco_09.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/574006/CGI/kbs/filco_10.jpg

[keyboardnoob]

Im interested in

1x Miami 87
1x Numpad
1x ISO-set
1x Any modifier set you throw at me

Rendered the keycaps according to the pic in the original post, tad bit different, but not too bad
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/574006/CGI/kbs/filco_09.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/574006/CGI/kbs/filco_10.jpg

It doesn't compare to this :

http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=42284&d=1330598263

[baldgye]

1x Miami 87
1x Numpad
1x Add On

[captain]

I saw it, I like the color of the circles. That's the teal I'm looking for.

However, that is NOT TEAL!

"We should not write so that it is possible for the reader to understand us, but so that it is impossible for him to misunderstand us." -Quintilian (Marcus Fabius Quintilianus), rhetorician (c. 35-100)

Let's call a spade a spade.  We are talking about spending $100 each on a bunch of plastic, after all, and color is one of it's only meaningful characteristics.  The vibrant, light, electric blue-green that everyone seems to prefer is much closer to CYAN, or maybe really closest to TURQUOISE, and is most closely approximated by SP: VBV.  TEAL is a darker, much more muted blue-green, and most closely approximated by SP: VAF

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teal_%28color%29

One color choice we have ignored is AQUAMARINE, closely approximated by SP: VCO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquamarine_%28color%29

I think that the best color choices, if we are going to call this "Miami" because of the Art Deco influence there and as seen on Miami Vice, would be RCR and VAF. Those are the colors of Art Deco in the 1980s.  But, if we want the most electric combo: RCS and either VBV or VCO would make a very bright, pastel, Ice Cream Parlour feel to the thing.

Anyway, here are the SigPlast color chips lying upon the inside cover of Miami Vice DVD box set, so we can all see actual, real, colors.  Let's either call them by their SP chip names, or use the most appropriate color names, as wikipedia can help us use.  ;-)

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Oh, and just for fun:  http://www.colourlovers.com/palette/77257/Miami_Vice

and here is Shocking Pink and Ultra Pink, which, alas, we can't really do in SP ABS:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_pink#Bright_pink

IMHO, and from living with one of the leading Art Deco designers in the world in the 1980s, Shocking Pink on Teal would be the most authentic.  :-)

[captain]

More food for thought:
"Of the many different production aspects of the show, "no earth tones" were allowed to be used. A director of Miami Vice, Bobby Roth, recalled:  There are certain colors you are not allowed to shoot, such as red and brown. If the script says 'A Mercedes pulls up here,' the car people will show you three or four different Mercedes. One will be white, one will be black, one will be silver. You will not get a red or brown one."

Time Magazine Article:  http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,959822,00.html  "the familiar art deco logo, glowing in vibrant turquoise and pink."

Here is some information about the colors of Art Deco:

http://www.creativecolorschemes.com/resources/free-color-schemes/art-deco-color-scheme.shtml
http://www.life123.com/arts-culture/art-history/art-deco/art-deco-colors.shtml
http://www.art-deco-style.com/art-deco-colors.html

[captain]

That quote is Fabius.  JUST Fabius.

Yep.  I've got a Quintilian of 'em.

example of keycaps in the actual colors:
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That looks like VCO over RCR.  Aquamarine over China Pink / Hot Pink (depending on the amount of light).  I can get on board with that.

BTW, I found a nice blue-green comparison chart in one page:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ABlue-green#Shades_of_cyan_color_comparison_chart

[captain]

example of keycaps in the actual colors:
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That looks like VCO over RCR.  Aquamarine over China Pink / Hot Pink (depending on the amount of light).  I can get on board with that.

BTW, I found a nice blue-green comparison chart in one page:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ABlue-green#Shades_of_cyan_color_comparison_chart

[IvanIvanovich]

RCR must be a 'new' color since it seems to be missing from the color chip photos that have been floating around here. Since I didn't know that color code existed before I just assumed it was the other one, but I think you are correct. Not sure for 100% which blue-green shade I have, it doesn't quite match either but I fault my TN panel for that. You are also correct that it is really more of an 'aqua' shade that I had in mind. Good constructive info there captain.

[keyboardnoob]

However, that is NOT TEAL!

"We should not write so that it is possible for the reader to understand us, but so that it is impossible for him to misunderstand us." -Quintilian (Marcus Fabius Quintilianus), rhetorician (c. 35-100)

Let's call a spade a spade.  We are talking about spending $100 each on a bunch of plastic, after all, and color is one of it's only meaningful characteristics.  The vibrant, light, electric blue-green that everyone seems to prefer is much closer to CYAN, or maybe really closest to TURQUOISE, and is most closely approximated by SP: VBV.  TEAL is a darker, much more muted blue-green, and most closely approximated by SP: VAF

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teal_%28color%29

One color choice we have ignored is AQUAMARINE, closely approximated by SP: VCO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquamarine_%28color%29

I think that the best color choices, if we are going to call this "Miami" because of the Art Deco influence there and as seen on Miami Vice, would be RCR and VAF. Those are the colors of Art Deco in the 1980s.  But, if we want the most electric combo: RCS and either VBV or VCO would make a very bright, pastel, Ice Cream Parlour feel to the thing.

Anyway, here are the SigPlast color chips lying upon the inside cover of Miami Vice DVD box set, so we can all see actual, real, colors.  Let's either call them by their SP chip names, or use the most appropriate color names, as wikipedia can help us use.  ;-)

(Attachment Link) 42781[/ATTACH]

Oh, and just for fun:  http://www.colourlovers.com/palette/77257/Miami_Vice

and here is Shocking Pink and Ultra Pink, which, alas, we can't really do in SP ABS:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_pink#Bright_pink

IMHO, and from living with one of the leading Art Deco designers in the world in the 1980s, Shocking Pink on Teal would be the most authentic.  :-)

I 100% agree with this post, thanks for the clarification on the color.

[WorldExclusive]

However, that is NOT TEAL!

In the very same post, I asked for the teal and cyan chips to see the difference.
Expecting someone to accurately decipher a color from a monitor screen is a stretch.

[captain]

Quote Originally Posted by captain:
Do you people not see my example photo of teal and cyan? I'll try to give the exact SP chips later.

I saw it, I like the color of the circles. That's the teal I'm looking for.
If you can get chips for teal and cyan, that would be great.

Ok, fully quoted.  You called the turquoise circles "teal", when the picture that I posted has a background of teal, with circles of turquoise.
I posted a picture of SP chips, but it looks like maybe you're skipping pages of this thread, or just not paying attention?  Or have I fallen to a troll.  BAAAAAAAA!  ;-P

[hazeluff]

I like the slightly bluer VBV. But yeah, colors off a monitor is terrible.

[IvanIvanovich]

Yes, monitor -100% proper calibration -100% proper white balanced photos (well maybe?) makes color matching a real *****.
captains post were most helpful, and unless there is massive say otherwise, I am making a stand with RCR / VBV as the final colors.

[bazemk1979]

hi lysol Im interested in TKL set, does the extra 3 keys are included in the price of the set or will be separate? I believe the WASD gamer kit will be extra correct?

[IvanIvanovich]

No, everything shown / listed in the OP is included in the tentative pricing. ANSI 87+ Miami, flamingo, WASD, geekhack keys all in same price, not extra. This is one set right now so you get everything shown / listed with it. No options.
If there is enough interest to even offer numpad, ISO keys, and so on then those would be extra cost only as optional add-ons.

[baldgye]

I keep forgetting that I need to try and match a random UK enter key too with this set lol... why is the uk layout so diffrent to the us one :/

[IvanIvanovich]

I think the question should be why does a UK layout even exist? Britain should have just used the US ANSI standard and US International should have been English International with £ as the shifted character on 4, with $ as an alt gr. Know a few Brits that do this, and find it much more enjoyable than ISO board with UK keymap. You should just trade your ISO board for an ANSI one, then you don't have to worry about the ISO keycaps not matching ever again.
But I will put you down as a +1 for wanting matching ISO caps for this set. If there are enough people to make it cost effective, it will get offered as an add on kit.

[hazeluff]

I keep forgetting that I need to try and match a random UK enter key too with this set lol... why is the uk layout so diffrent to the us one :/

English people don't make sense. Why is " on the 2. and the @ on the '? Why is the left shift so small that its not even ergonomical to hit it?

[dirge]

Any UK layout option group buys can count me in.

[IvanIvanovich]

It wouldn't be UK, but generic ISO likely to be done something like ISO enter, 1.25 left shift and 2 blank keys R3, R4.

[Zehkul]

English people don't make sense. Why is " on the 2. and the @ on the '? Why is the left shift so small that its not even ergonomical to hit it?

It's the other way round: ANSI shift is too big! Place your fingers on f and j and look at the distance to both shifts.

[captain]

I like the slightly bluer VBV. But yeah, colors off a monitor is terrible.

Well, use ColorSync on a Mac, or take a picture of a color card with a FLASH, then set up your monitor so that the picture of the color card matches the actual color card.  

I shot those chips with pure flash lighting, for the purest, easiest to match, colors possible.  ;-)

For a true Miami / ArtDeco feel, I'm leaning toward the VCO (slightly more green AQUAMARINE).  The VBV is just so blue and harsh... It harshes my cool Miami vibe, man.  ;-)

[captain]

It's the other way round: ANSI shift is too big! Place your fingers on f and j and look at the distance to both shifts.

Isn't that what SHE said?

[bazemk1979]

No, everything shown / listed in the OP is included in the tentative pricing. ANSI 87+ Miami, flamingo, WASD, geekhack keys all in same price, not extra. This is one set right now so you get everything shown / listed with it. No options.
If there is enough interest to even offer numpad, ISO keys, and so on then those would be extra cost only as optional add-ons.

great, consider me as interested in buying the set, give it some time to run, we should have more numbers in after the cream cheese  and green set pass, I might pass on that set since the cream cheese dont look proper to me.

[baldgye]

yeah i know what you mean, and i used to use a US keyboard... well.. i used to use an imac keyboard which has alot of the US symbol placment

but cheers anyways and yeah I am thinking of getting a new US layout... actually looking at a white US filco tenkeyless (? I can never remember the names) simply for this awesome keyset!

[baldgye]

tbh having known no diffrent it would be like asking how can americans be used to hitting 2 for the @ symbol

[hazeluff]

tbh having known no diffrent it would be like asking how can americans be used to hitting 2 for the @ symbol

Yeah i understand that. But I still stand by logically " should be shift + '.

[IvanIvanovich]

I also can argue then why the hell is : not on . and ; not on , as the respective shifted keys on all layouts, that makes more sense to me personally as found on most of the European keymapping.

Really though it's too bad that all keyboards don't have the same placement for everything that is shared amongst all languages.

[baldgye]

agreed

[keyboardnoob]

shameless bump for my favorite set.

[thegunner100]

It's gonna be a while before this set gets on its way... good thing cause i've been spending too much on keycaps lately :smow:

[1337llama]

I just bought my first mechanical keyboard, and I am quite interested in this set.
1x Miami 87
1x Numpad

[Glissant]

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1 set for me, please.
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[captain]

Is there any chance that someone is keeping a list of interested parties and will PM us if/when this goes live?

[IvanIvanovich]

Yes I am keeping a rough count. Title will change once orders begin. I am just delaying it at request of many until some of the other full set buys wrap up. It will definitely move forward, just a matter of when.

[thegunner100]

Since payment for Tsangan's green and cream cheese GB is starting soon, I'm bumping this thread so that we can get more interest and get this GB started!

[Glissant]

thegunner100, I am sorry for this irrelevant post, but I was just sitting here thinking about what to write to bump this thread. Just saying we are probably soul mates or something... *stalks you*

[baldgye]

I really hope this set can get the extra ISO caps

[thegunner100]

thegunner100, I am sorry for this irrelevant post, but I was just sitting here thinking about what to write to bump this thread. Just saying we are probably soul mates or something... *stalks you*

:hug:

[keyboardnoob]

Since payment for Tsangan's green and cream cheese GB is starting soon, I'm bumping this thread so that we can get more interest and get this GB started!

Good idea ! Also how many people are interested approximatively ?