Author Topic: [DISCUSSION] Moogle kit round 3 (Read 72140 times)

hashbaz · « **Reply #400 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 10:48:16 »

Quote from: Taeyoung;536695

I just wanted to tell the "tsangan kit" optionfor the moogle group buy would be very useful for custom keyboard.
So I hope the 1.5x modifiers set( including 7x spacebar and 1x keys) would be included into this moogle group buy. :-)

So do your custom keyboards need center-stemmed modifiers? Otherwise you could just use the real Cherry keys, right?

tsangan · « **Reply #401 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 10:53:55 »

Quote from: Taeyoung;536695

I just wanted to tell the "tsangan kit" optionfor the moogle group buy would be very useful for custom keyboard.
So I hope the 1.5x modifiers set( including 7x spacebar and 1x keys) would be included into this moogle group buy. :-)

Not quite sure I understand as normal Cherry DS sets already have 1.5x modifiers sets and a 7x spacebar, I just don't know the reason to make a replacement when the original is better.

Am I missing something?

On the other hand I think all future keysets GB will include the "tsangan kit" so all the people with winkeyless keyboards can enjoy!

Quote from: ripster;536868

Should listen to #1.

I really gotta take a pic to prove it I guess.

I see pictures of them not fitting, so.......

lightsout714 · « **Reply #402 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 13:43:19 »

Does anyone know which shift it is from a cherry set that fits a filco. Its my understanding that the left shift fits. But the right does not? Obviously this kit is looking to have both shifts now I believe. But previous moogles only had a right shift is that correct?

hashbaz · « **Reply #403 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 13:52:10 »

Quote from: lightsout714;537026

Does anyone know which shift it is from a cherry set that fits a filco. Its my understanding that the left shift fits. But the right does not? Obviously this kit is looking to have both shifts now I believe. But previous moogles only had a right shift is that correct?

Which shifts will fit depends on the keyboard. I have several Cherry key sets. On some of them both shifts fit, on others only the left fits. There are probably Cherry boards for which neither shift will fit the standard layout.

And yes, previous moogles only had right shift.

lightsout714 · « **Reply #404 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 14:02:22 »

Ok thanks. I had your rgb kit on my board and sold a partial cherry set this weekend. Threw my damn left shift in there on accident. Son of a...

Taeyoung · « **Reply #405 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 18:45:26 »

Quote from: hashbaz;536865

So do your custom keyboards need center-stemmed modifiers? Otherwise you could just use the real Cherry keys, right?

Yeah, I need center-stemmed modifiers even though I've been using the Cherry keys.
Because I'll keep making more 86keys-custom keyboards. :-)

lightsout714 · « **Reply #406 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 18:48:16 »

Quote from: Taeyoung;537281

Yeah, I need center-stemmed modifiers even though I've been using the Cherry keys.
Because I'll keep making more 86keys-custom keyboards. :-)

What caps are those on that red "cherry" board? Just some really nice cherry doubleshots?

tsangan · « **Reply #407 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 18:48:27 »

Quote from: Taeyoung;537281

Yeah, I need center-stemmed modifiers even though I've been using the Cherry keys.
Because I'll keep making more 86keys-custom keyboards. :-)

Buying more Cherry sets would be even better

Reasoning behind this

-Not a lot of interest for 1.5x moogle kit so the price will be higher
-At a low moogle kit price the kits are $25~$30
-A set of beige Cherry DS is like $40?

suprsmo · « **Reply #408 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 19:09:39 »

I'm keen for the base kit x 2 to complete the 2 x cherry sets I got from Clickey/Quarzac. But will depend price, as I only paid 20 each for these DS's.

Taeyoung · « **Reply #409 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 20:16:45 »

Quote from: lightsout714;536800

Man is it the camera? THese cherry keys always look so white and so gray. Brand new?

That's not brand new.
I've got them from Ascaii in DT.
http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=568&hilit=Ascaii

You can see more photos here.

lightsout714 · « **Reply #410 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 20:18:22 »

Those are from Ascaii? Nice, I guess the lighting just has them looking more white and gray.

Taeyoung · « **Reply #411 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 20:26:39 »

Quote from: tsangan;537286

Buying more Cherry sets would be even better

Reasoning behind this

-Not a lot of interest for 1.5x moogle kit so the price will be higher
-At a low moogle kit price the kits are $25~$30
-A set of beige Cherry DS is like $40?

Yeah, agreed.
But I love black Cherry double shot , especially winkeyless , and it's not easy to get them nowadays.
And you know, your kit in Raganarok GB has been ordered over 50sets ( $14.00 )! :peace:
Besides, there are lots of people who love 86kyes-custom keyboard such as KMAC, A87, 356 series and so forth here in Korea.

Quarzac · « **Reply #412 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 20:28:27 »

Count me in for one once this gets going. I just need the standard mods. My Cherry fits the stepped caps lock from the G81-8000 I salvaged.

lightsout714 · « **Reply #413 on:** Tue, 06 March 2012, 20:34:09 »

Quote from: Taeyoung;537345

That's not brand new.
I've got them from Ascaii in DT.
http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=568&hilit=Ascaii

You can see more photos here.

Those are some very nice keyboards there.

gimpster · « **Reply #414 on:** Wed, 07 March 2012, 01:09:41 »

Quote from: Taeyoung;537345

That's not brand new.
I've got them from Ascaii in DT.
http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=568&hilit=Ascaii

You can see more photos here.

Where did those acrylic cases come from? They look really nice.

tsangan · « **Reply #415 on:** Wed, 07 March 2012, 01:21:10 »

Quote from: Taeyoung;537360

Yeah, agreed.
But I love black Cherry double shot , especially winkeyless , and it's not easy to get them nowadays.
And you know, your kit in Raganarok GB has been ordered over 50sets ( $14.00 )! :peace:
Besides, there are lots of people who love 86kyes-custom keyboard such as KMAC, A87, 356 series and so forth here in Korea.

Yea winkeyless black DS are hard to find now, especially since black shows wear and shine a lot quicker then beige sets so finding use sets aren't as good.

I see where you're coming from this, hashbaz what do you think?

hashbaz · « **Reply #416 on:** Wed, 07 March 2012, 01:59:44 »

Quote from: tsangan;537544

Yea winkeyless black DS are hard to find now, especially since black shows wear and shine a lot quicker then beige sets so finding use sets aren't as good.

I see where you're coming from this, hashbaz what do you think?

It's all the same to me. I'll fine making 1.5x mods available if people are willing to pay for them.

tsangan · « **Reply #417 on:** Wed, 07 March 2012, 02:07:51 »

Quote from: hashbaz;537569

It's all the same to me. I'll fine making 1.5x mods available if people are willing to pay for them.

I think mainly its the black ones since beige and dolch 1.5x mods are easy to come by

godofdeath · « **Reply #418 on:** Fri, 09 March 2012, 14:09:30 »

What is the difference between this and round 2? Is the bottom row taller to match cherry double shots?

hashbaz · « **Reply #419 on:** Fri, 09 March 2012, 14:25:15 »

Quote from: godofdeath;540288

What is the difference between this and round 2? Is the bottom row taller to match cherry double shots?

The key profile is fixed by SP, unfortunately, unless we cough up thousands of $$ for new molds. The legends will look closer to Cherry legends than R2, however. See the pictures from my RGBY group buy for comparisons. There are also some additional add-ons this time around, like an ISO left shift and a stepped caps lock.

demik · « **Reply #420 on:** Fri, 09 March 2012, 14:28:12 »

Let's add the red enter :3

omuerte · « **Reply #421 on:** Sat, 10 March 2012, 15:45:49 »

Quote from: demik;540311

Let's add the red enter :3

i3oilermaker · « **Reply #422 on:** Sun, 11 March 2012, 22:24:21 »

Ready for an order thread :plane:

hashbaz · « **Reply #423 on:** Sun, 11 March 2012, 23:10:31 »

Quote from: i3oilermaker;542876

Ready for an order thread :plane:

Me too.

Making the legends has been slow going, but I think I have all the issues sorted out now. I'm hoping to get a prototype of the Enter key going early this week, and then I'll get the order thread up.

I'm planning on keeping this short and sweet. One week to order, one week to collect money. At that point the prototype should be done and if it is acceptable I'll put the order in.

suprsmo · « **Reply #424 on:** Mon, 12 March 2012, 00:09:39 »

Hmmm, so I need to fix my 2 x cherry white on black 2shawts I got from Clickey. Ctrl Alt Win Menu and Caps.

And being that my Enter key didnt fit on my filco without some gladwrap jammed into the stem holes, I'd be down for a big ass Red Enter key

Will keep an eye out I guess.

The_Ed · « **Reply #425 on:** Mon, 12 March 2012, 00:33:53 »

The only vintage cherry red enter key I've seen is the one on the G80-9009HAU.

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DanGWanG · « **Reply #426 on:** Mon, 12 March 2012, 01:10:34 »

Any idea as to when you'll start taking orders?

hashbaz · « **Reply #427 on:** Mon, 12 March 2012, 01:21:43 »

Hopefully this week, but no promises.

Glukos · « **Reply #428 on:** Mon, 12 March 2012, 08:17:32 »

Will Mr.Kerning help you to make correct words? =)

skeaono · « **Reply #429 on:** Wed, 14 March 2012, 14:08:56 »

A full Dolch set please!

Reptile · « **Reply #430 on:** Wed, 14 March 2012, 14:19:54 »

Quote from: skeaono;545959

A full Dolch set please!

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?28390-AUCTION-Dolch-PAC65-Keyboard
:biggrin1:

hashbaz · « **Reply #431 on:** Fri, 16 March 2012, 01:46:45 »

Some progress, finally! Things have been tricky at home (wife is sick), but I sat down tonight and churned out the Enter key in a couple of hours. The others should go faster now.

The base rectangle isn't to scale, but the key top rectangle and the size, line width, and position of the letters should be. There's still a bit of tweaking left to do, but overall I'm very pleased with how it turned out. SP is closed Fridays, but I'll get this to Melissa on Monday and have her make a prototype. I should also be able to finish most of the other keys over the weekend and get the order thread up early next week.

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jellowiggler · « **Reply #432 on:** Fri, 16 March 2012, 01:48:51 »

I have a request for keys in a moogle kit.

Anyone who has taken keys from a g8x 1800 will need a 2 unit "0 Ins" key and a 2 unit vertical "+" key to fill out a full size board.

Can we do those? Is there demand?

The_Ed · « **Reply #433 on:** Fri, 16 March 2012, 01:52:41 »

The "0 Ins" and "+" keys were requested by a few people in moogle 2 if I remember correctly.

hashbaz · « **Reply #434 on:** Fri, 16 March 2012, 01:53:53 »

Quote from: jellowiggler;547535

I have a request for keys in a moogle kit.

Anyone who has taken keys from a g8x 1800 will need a 2 unit "0 Ins" key and a 2 unit vertical "+" key to fill out a full size board.

Can we do those? Is there demand?

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I doubt there's demand, but if we can get enough orders to be in a reasonable price tier, I'll do SVGs for them.

The_Ed · « **Reply #435 on:** Fri, 16 March 2012, 02:02:31 »

I just realized that I have 4 sets of those 2 keys in black doubleshot + 1 "0" key without the "Ins" in black doubleshot. And tomorrow I may have another set... How many ziplock bags full of keys do I have down here? I need to start selling these things... I don't have nearly enough keyboards for all of these.

Reptile · « **Reply #436 on:** Fri, 16 March 2012, 02:12:20 »

Ready to order!

Stoked

Sent from my mobile

hashbaz · « **Reply #437 on:** Sun, 18 March 2012, 00:56:36 »

Working on the order thread OP, it struck me: why do we need ISO left shift? Don't ISO Cherry sets have them already? Have I asked this question before? Am I going moogle-crazy?

The_Ed · « **Reply #438 on:** Sun, 18 March 2012, 01:10:50 »

Full ISO sets have them, but the ANSI-ISO sets don't.

hashbaz · « **Reply #439 on:** Sun, 18 March 2012, 01:14:01 »

Whoa, what is ANSI-ISO?

The_Ed · « **Reply #440 on:** Sun, 18 March 2012, 01:14:47 »

ANSI for all but the ISO "Enter" and "\|" keys.

hashbaz · « **Reply #441 on:** Sun, 18 March 2012, 01:18:23 »

Huh, didn't know about that. Ok I'll include ISO shift then. No biggie since we already have the legend.

The_Ed · « **Reply #442 on:** Sun, 18 March 2012, 01:20:44 »

How many people actually want an ISO left shift though? Maybe you have it as an add-on.

hashbaz · « **Reply #443 on:** Sun, 18 March 2012, 01:28:47 »

Yeah, that's what I meant. It won't be in the base kit.

Wildcard · « **Reply #444 on:** Sun, 18 March 2012, 01:42:49 »

Base kit with white on black & black on white.

Very simple...

Grond · « **Reply #445 on:** Sun, 18 March 2012, 02:57:24 »

Quote from: hashbaz;549514

Huh, didn't know about that. Ok I'll include ISO shift then. No biggie since we already have the legend.

Besides there's the horizontal alignement issue, remember? If you stuck with the original ISO cherry left shift, the arrow is not horizontally centered as in the Moogle kit's right shift. So yes, we do need ISO shifts.

hashbaz · « **Reply #446 on:** Sun, 18 March 2012, 03:45:46 »

Ah that's right.

lightsout714 · « **Reply #447 on:** Sun, 18 March 2012, 10:53:44 »

Order thread? Lets do this. I keep spending money that is supposed to go to moogle kits. And buying more sets that need moogles

hashbaz · « **Reply #448 on:** Sun, 18 March 2012, 12:33:33 »

Quote from: lightsout714;549674

Order thread? Lets do this. I keep spending money that is supposed to go to moogle kits. And buying more sets that need moogles

Fear not! Your wallet will soon have a thread to throw itself at.

lightsout714 · « **Reply #449 on:** Sun, 18 March 2012, 15:56:14 »

Quote from: hashbaz;549742

Fear not! Your wallet will soon have a thread to throw itself at.

Thank you! I think :/

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Author Topic: [DISCUSSION] Moogle kit round 3 (Read 72140 times)