How frequent problems with mechanical keyboards?

[trh]

Hello!
I want to buy my first mechanical keyboard.
The only thing that stops me now - numerous reports of various problems that I have read on this forum. For example, the "chattering." http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?22058-Have-you-experienced-a-chattering-cherry-switch - 50% experienced this problem.
Note that for 10 years, I have not experienced technical problems with rubber dome keyboards.
These problems are indeed so often?

//Sorry for google translate :[

[fossala]

When you buy a $10 keyboard you just get on with it. When you buy a $100+ keyboard you inspect it and find all of its flaws.

[glossywhite]

I have a Cherry G80-3000L on loan, and the first thing that came to my mind was "People pay SIXTY POUNDS for this? :-/". Someone's getting rich.

[Soarer]

Ignore ripster. I see he's even started trolling complete newbies with his nonsense 'effect'.

The helpful answer is: No. If you invest in a mechanical keyboard, you are very unlikely to find any problem with it. And it should last longer than a rubber dome keyboard.

[glossywhite]

Ignore ripster. I see he's even started trolling complete newbies with his nonsense 'effect'.

The helpful answer is: No. If you invest in a mechanical keyboard, you are very unlikely to find any problem with it. And it should last longer than a rubber dome keyboard.

^ This... ALL of it.

[trh]

Welcome to Geekhack!

ALL the frigging time.

But stay rational my friend:  The McRip Effect.

I'm not afraid of problems described in this topic
But I would not want to buy a keyboard 2-3 times more expensive than usual, if I then get serious problems with typing, which has never been on rubber dome.

[alaricljs]

Don't forget, complaint polls invariably select for complaints/complainers.  If someone is NOT having an issue they are very unlikely to bother with the poll.

[trh]

Welcome to Geekhack!

ALL the frigging time.

But stay rational my friend:  The McRip Effect.

I'm not afraid of problems described in "McRip effect" topic
But I would not want to buy a keyboard 2-4 times more expensive than usual, if I then get serious problems with typing, which has never been on rubber dome.

[pitashen]

Ignore ripster. I see he's even started trolling complete newbies with his nonsense 'effect'.

The helpful answer is: No. If you invest in a mechanical keyboard, you are very unlikely to find any problem with it. And it should last longer than a rubber dome keyboard.

I disagree. For a lot of people, mech boards they bought end up staying a lot shorter than they originally imagined. Not because the board malfunctioned LOL, but because as you will find out, you will itch to try  boards with different switches etc etc.


I have to say some of the McRip craps are quite legit.


OP, I bought my first board without reading more than a couple of posts on this forum. I pulled the trigger on a not-so-popular-in-GH-forum keyboard, and I never regretted my purchase as my first mech board.

[pitashen]

I have a Cherry G80-3000L on loan, and the first thing that came to my mind was "People pay SIXTY POUNDS for this? :-/". Someone's getting rich.

Quote Originally Posted by glossywhite View Post

I hear these are top notch input?

>>
"The switches themselves? top notch. Being PCB mounted? good stuff. The rest of the board?...all I can say is they will hold together and won't fall apart. For the price in europe? worth it. For the price in asia (as much as filco) I would think twice.

You'll probably like/love it as your first mech board."



There is some uniqueness to it (the fact that it is PCB mounted) such that people are still willing to pay for it despite its crappy build quality.

[glossywhite]

My experience with egos as hugs as Ripsters, dictates that the following logic be followed:

1/ Be as courteous with him as you would be anyone else, regardless of ego.

2/ Be thankful he's taken his time out to carry out such thorough and comprehensive analysis and tests

3/ Thankfulness to one side (which is genuine), I use my own scientific judgement to determine whether or not I feel that the opinions he expresses, tally with those of others (here, blogs, YouTube reviews etc). Even then, regardless of mass opinion, erroneous "facts" have been known to be accepted purely on the basis of the author's say so without questioning the underlying logic deeper, many a time. An example of this is when the Apple aluminium iMac was first released, SO SO SO many "professionals" reviewed is as being "brushed aluminum", when, if they'd stopped and thought about it, it was in fact anodised aluminum, which looks NOTHING LIKE brushed.

If an ego is pushing too hard, it seems to me that:

(A) The person is actually serious, possibly deluded, which is no basis for facts, and all basis for suspicion.

(B) No one person is the de-facto expert on ALL aspects of their chosen field. I always consult multiple, multiple sources AND COMMON SENSE.

(C) They could be bluffing: This is not that funny, smacks of arrogance, and leads to contempt being held against them.

I am sure not one of us could say we don't want to be seen as "Mr Right", but you have to conceed defeat, when presented by facts that we just have to throw up our hands to, and say "I have no idea, sorry".


(Learnt from being a pig-headed, prideful arrogant fanboy many times in the past. I am grateful for what knowledge I have acquired, but there is always more to learn!)

Ripster, I still genuinely respect and like you, but the ego? It's ugly, man!

[Soarer]

I think NO is a bit imprecise:

Perfectly precise and accurate. What's more, it actually answered the OP's question.

Stay skeptical of sour Senior Geekhackers, my friend.

None so sour as those who stare at the mirror all day.

[pitashen]

My experience with egos as hugs as Ripsters, dictates that the following logic be followed:

I have no issue on what you have to say to ripster, but doing it here is of no help to the OP's concern as he was trying to figure out his worries, not looking at us firing at each other on topics of none of OP's concern.

Here is the drill. Ripster says what he has to say regard to the topic, and so will we say what we think with regarded to OP's concern. What in the end is more of a voting process. A reader would probably eventually pick what the majority have to say regarding to the topic on this thread (whether agreeing with ripster or not).

[glossywhite]

I have no issue on what you have to say to ripster, but doing it here is of no help to the OP's concern as he was trying to figure out his worries, not looking at us firing at each other on topics of none of OP's concern.

Here is the drill. Ripster says what he has to say regard to the topic, and so will we say what we think with regarded to OP's concern. What in the end is more of a voting process. A reader would probably eventually pick what the majority have to say regarding to the topic on this thread (whether agreeing with ripster or not).

I see that, yep. You're right... and I am gonna bail now and leave this to those with more mech KB knowledge than me :-)

Bye, thanks :-)

[Soarer]

Ripster says what he has to say regard to the topic...

Well now, here's the thing. He doesn't. He sends the OP off into a mire of stuff that's unrelated to the OP's question. To an unmoderated part of the forum. Ignore all the crap and you'll note that we basically agree that the OP is unlikely to encounter any issues with a mech keyboard. So why not just say that?

[Surly73]

When you buy a $10 keyboard you just get on with it. When you buy a $100+ keyboard you inspect it and find all of its flaws.

IMO there's truth here.  The more you spend the higher your expectations.  Also, if you're willing to spend $100 on something others spend $0-$10 on, you're either stinking rich and looking for bling or you are an enthusiast who will actually notice more problems.

[fohat.digs]

Does a Honda remain problem-free twice as long as a Jaguar?

Are my Model M/Fs Hondas or Jaguars?

[jellowiggler]

Models Ms are Hondas or Lexus (or if there was something built even better than that). Nothing will last longer than a model m.

I love my filco, cmstorm and my Rosewill. But my IBM model m is almost 20 years old and is still amazing. I highly doubt any of my boards will be working in 20 years.

[seferphier]

My experience with egos as hugs as Ripsters, dictates that the following logic be followed:

1/ Be as courteous with him as you would be anyone else, regardless of ego.

2/ Be thankful he's taken his time out to carry out such thorough and comprehensive analysis and tests

3/ Thankfulness to one side (which is genuine), I use my own scientific judgement to determine whether or not I feel that the opinions he expresses, tally with those of others (here, blogs, YouTube reviews etc). Even then, regardless of mass opinion, erroneous "facts" have been known to be accepted purely on the basis of the author's say so without questioning the underlying logic deeper, many a time. An example of this is when the Apple aluminium iMac was first released, SO SO SO many "professionals" reviewed is as being "brushed aluminum", when, if they'd stopped and thought about it, it was in fact anodised aluminum, which looks NOTHING LIKE brushed.

If an ego is pushing too hard, it seems to me that:

(A) The person is actually serious, possibly deluded, which is no basis for facts, and all basis for suspicion.

(B) No one person is the de-facto expert on ALL aspects of their chosen field. I always consult multiple, multiple sources AND COMMON SENSE.

(C) They could be bluffing: This is not that funny, smacks of arrogance, and leads to contempt being held against them.

I am sure not one of us could say we don't want to be seen as "Mr Right", but you have to conceed defeat, when presented by facts that we just have to throw up our hands to, and say "I have no idea, sorry".


(Learnt from being a pig-headed, prideful arrogant fanboy many times in the past. I am grateful for what knowledge I have acquired, but there is always more to learn!)

Ripster, I still genuinely respect and like you, but the ego? It's ugly, man!

Agree.