[Interest Check] Alucase for Phantom and Filco

[seferphier]

possibly.

but im guessing it would cost more money. and some people are already iffy about the (IMO) very cheap 150 it'll probably cost.

150 is a good price. the thing is that i don't have a filco TKL. unless it fits my realforce 86u, that would mean i have to purchase another filco on top of that.

[demik]

I will not do this. It's way to late to change the design, and even if it was possible I would not do it.

And concerning the differences in colour between the halves; This will most likely not happen.
Everything will get lowered into the same tub at the same time.

good! there is absolutely nothing that needs to be changed about this case.

150 is a good price. the thing is that i don't have a filco TKL. unless it fits my realforce 86u, that would mean i have to purchase another filco on top of that.

it won't fit your realforce. it's specifically made for filco (which will also fit phantom since it was designed to fit in a filco case)

[Swede]

BAD NEWS!!

School wants a cut from manufacturing, I was starting to fear this a bit due to the overwhelming response for this case.
Updated price is now $180 per case. I am very sorry for this.

[demik]

Uh oh!

Let's get this moving before any other things pop up

[gimpster]

So...on an unrelated note...anybody know how to come up with $180 on the quick? :biggrin:

[mkawa]

donate plasma, donate sperm, then "donate" your kidney.

[demik]

So...on an unrelated note...anybody know how to come up with $180 on the quick? :biggrin:

prostitution

[Swede]

So...on an unrelated note...anybody know how to come up with $180 on the quick? :biggrin:

Well, it's a $30 difference. I hope it won't be too hard to get

Ask your mum to get $30 instead of dinner next time you visit

[haggle]

When are you planning on taking orders? I apologize for not going through pages 2-6, at work, but seriously, just take my money

[Swede]

Yet more bad news.. They just keep piling up don't they?

The schools workshop will be closed tomorrow. I really don't know how I missed that but I did T.T

So instead of showing you a prototype I will show the finished design renders tomorrow. Also the blocks from where the design will be made are coming in tomorrow, I just hope that I can pick them up as they come to the workshop.
Not nearly as interesting, I know, but better than nothing I guess...

When are you planning on taking orders? I apologize for not going through pages 2-6, at work, but seriously, just take my money

Orders will be taken when the prototype is done. This will be on monday. Was supposed to be friday.

[Swede]

Thought I could show of the feet I will make. This is a final design for the feet.
Decided to go with domed rubber as gripsurface. The rubber is made for Hi-Fi equipment, so they should be soft, grippy and absorb vibrations according the to text, will make my own judgement later
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The front rubber is 2.5mm high. Red is 6mm, Blue is 11mm and Green is 15mm high.
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[demik]

They look like the poker alu case feet, which are great.

[digitalleftovers]

I would definitely want the Phantom one.

[digitalleftovers]

Supposedly, Vortex is going to release a tenkeyless aluminum like your first pic, but no details on pricing, and they were supposed to announce it on facebook this month...

[digitalleftovers]

Ha!  I'll give you a hint.  It doesn't have a face on it.

[mkawa]

swede, i'm in for 3

[Swede]

Supposedly, Vortex is going to release a tenkeyless aluminum like your first pic, but no details on pricing, and they were supposed to announce it on facebook this month...

I heard of that yesterday, they look really good!
Thinner than my design, which I like. I'm hindered by the teensy on the Phantom PCB so my design is fatter to make room for that.

If I had it my way it would be 5-6mm tinner

On the other hand they don't seem to use a finishing cut on the inside. I will do that, hoping for baby smoothness xD

swede, i'm in for 3

Nice
Please note that shipping will be more expensive!

[Zehkul]

Is the Vortex one tenkeyless or smaller?

[oneproduct]

I'd be interested in one.

[Swede]

Is the Vortex one tenkeyless or smaller?

Vortex make a tenkeyless.
They also make alucases for all their smaller keyboards.

[demik]

Is the Vortex one tenkeyless or smaller?

Tenkeyless and poker/pure size.

[BiNiaRiS]

good! there is absolutely nothing that needs to be changed about this case.




it won't fit your realforce. it's specifically made for filco (which will also fit phantom since it was designed to fit in a filco case)

actually, Swede made this case specifically for the Phantom only, then decided to make sure it would work with the Filco as well.

[BiNiaRiS]

Will this go faster than the Truly Ergonomic from 3D rendering to final product?

pretty sure he'll have a prototype next week so yes.

[demik]

actually, Swede made this case specifically for the Phantom only, then decided to make sure it would work with the Filco as well.

i see.

[Swede]

Will this go faster than the Truly Ergonomic from 3D rendering to final product?

Unless someone kills me or the workshop burns to the ground things should be just fine.

[mkawa]

never doubt the swedes

[Elrick]

Unless someone kills me or the workshop burns to the ground things should be just fine.

We have complete faith in you Swede.

[Swede]

just got the watercut blocks
They look really good, nice and precise! Sorry about the size and quality, took them with my phone...
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[kaiserreich]

Oh là là

[balanar]

just got the watercut blocks
They look really good, nice and precise! Sorry about the size and quality, took them with my phone...
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Sorry but are these essentially the prototypes of the case? Will the actual cases be like this? I ask cos these are T-H-I-C-K!  Not sure what the 'protrusions' on either side of the spacebar are though..

[Swede]

These are just the precut blocks. These are the blocks I get before I stick it into the CNC. Why the top part is shaped to the final keyboard is so that it will be faster to cut in the CNC. I only need to make a 1mm cut to get to the final shape. Then ofc I need to mill the inside of the block to make them stick together.

The final prototypes should hopefully be done on wednesday if everything goes to plan, but I've had no luck with that so far

The " 'protrusions' " are for the winkeyless version. I let the watercutter have those shaped and then I just cut them off for those who wish not to have them.

[dirge]

The " 'protrusions' " are for the winkeyless version. I let the watercutter have those shaped and then I just cut them off for those who wish not to have them.

The Phantom was a way to use cherry doubleshot keys without any moogle kits, and as 1.5 mods are the most popular and easy to find, the 1 key filler means we don't need to add a key to fill the gap.

[balanar]

These are just the precut blocks. These are the blocks I get before I stick it into the CNC. Why the top part is shaped to the final keyboard is so that it will be faster to cut in the CNC. I only need to make a 1mm cut to get to the final shape. Then ofc I need to mill the inside of the block to make them stick together.

The final prototypes should hopefully be done on wednesday if everything goes to plan, but I've had no luck with that so far

The " 'protrusions' " are for the winkeyless version. I let the watercutter have those shaped and then I just cut them off for those who wish not to have them.

Ahh I see, ingenious! Why no luck with the plan?

[Swede]

Ahh I see, ingenious! Why no luck with the plan?

Everything I've planned have either been changed or I have missed the deadline.
It's a bit of a problem when you are a student making your first design on a new CNC Mill with a completely new program...
You tend to have a need for help, when your teacher can't help you. Afterall I'm making this outside my classes

[digitalleftovers]

I was going to ask if you were considering winkeyless, and its awesome that you have.  I don't have a need for one, but good call.  Can't wait for the next iteration.

[Swede]

I was going to ask if you were considering winkeyless, and its awesome that you have.  I don't have a need for one, but good call.  Can't wait for the next iteration.

The guys at DT was insisting that I'd do a winkeyless, thank them for that as I had no plan on making it

[demik]

Now im torn between phantom regular and winkeyless cases!!!

Might have to get both!

[OPTiK]

Hmm, what if you're interested in a windows key? lol

This case look awesome, especially since I was thinking about picking up a filco ten keyless

[mkawa]

i'd like to run a powdercoat service for these units so that we can all get ours colored for a reasonable price. i'll open up an interest thread for this and oneproduct's cases tomorrow.

[Swede]

Hmm, what if you're interested in a windows key? lol

This case look awesome, especially since I was thinking about picking up a filco ten keyless

Will have a case with room for winkey

i'd like to run a powdercoat service for these units so that we can all get ours colored for a reasonable price. i'll open up an interest thread for this and oneproduct's cases tomorrow.

Shipping will be a ***** mkawa, just so you know.... I have no problem with you doing that service at all, but know that shipping may cost a lot.

[demik]

Swede, so there will be three cases now?

7bit, winkeyless and winkey?

Awesome

[mkawa]

Will have a case with room for winkey

Shipping will be a ***** mkawa, just so you know.... I have no problem with you doing that service at all, but know that shipping may cost a lot.

shipping from me or to me?

[Swede]

Shipping to you.
I think your customers is going to split the shipping cost from me i guess, and then the shipping from you. So they have to pay more in shipping (unsuprising) and that may put down some customers. Let me know how many are interested and I can ship all cases to you at the same time. Fedex has a shipping option that is limited to 25kg, that costs about 150 dollars. That may save you a bit if there are enough buyers of the powdercoat.

And you have to pay full price for non anodized. Just so you know (not much of a margin now since school wanted a cut)

[balanar]

I've read alot about instances where people say its fine to powdercoat over anodized parts. Not sure how different the outcome will be though.

[mkawa]

blerg, these are anodized already? can we choose a more unique color(s)? i was under the impression (because i fail at reading apparently), that these would be raw alum. ok, no worries on the powdercoat then. i'm fine with just anodized.

[Nalif]

From what I understand, he's only going to be anodizing in one color. If someone would rather the cases be shipped nude ( not anodized ), it would be possible for him to do but would cost the same amount as if it were anodized. So  powder coating should still be a possibility if you're not happy with whatever color is chosen for the final case.

[mkawa]

for various reasons that would be price prohibitive, unless it corresponds particularly neatly with delivery of oneproduct's poker cases. i'm actually pretty happy with the gunmetal color in the renders though, so it's all good. a deep blue would be nice, but eh

[dorkvader]

I've read alot about instances where people say its fine to powdercoat over anodized parts. Not sure how different the outcome will be though.

I mean, either way, the Aluminium will have a thin coating of oxidation (Al2O3) that forms almost immediately after exposure to air. Anodizing just serves to make this layer thicker (and, often, introduce dye as an interstitial, to give it colour). Either way, you're painting onto a layer of Aluminium Oxide.

For more info, check the 'pedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium#Physical
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_oxide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anodized
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Given the above, I suspect that it would be possible to introduce dye to the Aluminium Oxide coat, if there is none present. This may not be true, and I have no experience with it, it just should be possible.

[mkawa]

the plating place i talked to has an extra thick anodizing process.

anyway, i prefer paint if only because you can do matte finishes (and you generally have more choices for color and gloss)

[cloud_171]

I'm in