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fossala

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HHKB Type-s Review.
« on: Mon, 12 March 2012, 15:51:14 »
As there are not really any reviews on the HHKB Type-S I thought I would give it a go.

The box it comes is is identical to the Pro2 except that the sticker has been changed. I have no problem with this because as PFU say, it is not a new model, just a refined one. The box seems to do a good enough job at protecting the keyboard during transit.

The first thing that I noticed about the Type-S was that it didn't have wonkey keys. This has been something that has always annoyed me about topre keyboards and it is nice to see this has been addressed. Other than the Type-S logo that is the only visual change that I can see.

The key switches seem to feel a little bit smoother but I cannot check this as I no longer own a pro2, this could be also because of a reduction in sound. I measured the keys and they all weighed 45g except the space bar that weighed 50g (Done with rip-o-meter method). I have heard about people having different weighted keys and topres has a 15g+/- on there switches, this is something that I have never encountered on a pro2, type-s or 86u. I would be intreasted if other people would weigh their spacebar and check if it just mine or if it is intentional (doesn't matter either way as I prefer a hevier spacebar).
I love the reduction in sound. I think it sounds more refind and less clunky, what I expect from topre. I would pick a silenced switch any day over a loud one. Some people have said that they can feel a reduction in travel (0.2mm). I think this is somewhat unlikely but if it is there, I cannot tell. I think that with headphones on removing the sound element, they feel like the pro2.

The only downside to this keyboard is the fact that the rubber feet do not give enough grip. It doesn't move while typing but it would be nice not to accedently nudge it out of place on my desk.

Now to the elephant in the room, is it worth the extra $200. In short no. But I would buy one over the pro2 anyday, here is why. I came to geekhack to find the best keyboard. The pro2 is not the best keyboard, the type-s is (Discamer - for large amounts of typing I still prefer the Kinesis but only for ergonomics). I think that paying $500 (including shipping and tax) is worth it for the best keyboard and I can live with that.

Any question I will be happy to answer. I will have more pics up later in the week including pictures of internals, just don't have the energy tonight.

Offline o2dazone

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« Reply #1 on: Mon, 12 March 2012, 16:47:54 »
In your opinion, you say it's the best keyboard out there. What would you say were the flaws of the Pro 2 that the Type S fixed? And what would you change to make the Type S better?

fossala

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« Reply #2 on: Mon, 12 March 2012, 16:51:08 »
The flaw that the type-s fixed was wonkey keys. The quite keys for me is just a bonus. The hhkb could be improved by changing the grips on the bottom (as said in the review) and use pbt spacebars. Also they could do with some more media funtionality. While I am here with a request list I would quite like it to be fully programable as well.
Other than that I actully find it the perfect keyboard.

Offline Jim66

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« Reply #3 on: Mon, 12 March 2012, 17:06:33 »
Nice review, thanks.

I think that when I get around to ordering a HHKB, it'll be a type-s.

fossala

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« Reply #4 on: Mon, 12 March 2012, 17:12:59 »
I am going up to Southend and go through Bristol in just over a month. We could have a meet up and I could bring my Type-s, it could only be for an hour or so as I will need to be traviling most of the day.

Offline o2dazone

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« Reply #5 on: Mon, 12 March 2012, 17:37:03 »
Quote from: fossala;543684
The flaw that the type-s fixed was wonkey keys. The quite keys for me is just a bonus. The hhkb could be improved by changing the grips on the bottom (as said in the review) and use pbt spacebars. Also they could do with some more media funtionality. While I am here with a request list I would quite like it to be fully programable as well.
Other than that I actully find it the perfect keyboard.

Awesome, thanks for the response. A lot of shared feelings here. Aluminum frame wouldn't be bad, though the board doesn't really flex, so no wukkas. It'd also be nice to have a powered usb hub on the back, that way I could charge my phone through it. Obviously this usually isn't done without the aid of additional cable. F that.

Offline isp

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« Reply #6 on: Mon, 12 March 2012, 20:45:51 »
Thanks for the review and it's good to hear that you find it satisfactory.

Could someone elaborate on the "wonky keys" issue for me?...what exactly was the problem

If it's the fact that some of the keycaps look slightly misaligned when viewed from the top down then I definitely know what you're talking about.  $300 for a kb is already a push IMO, but to add $200 more for straight keys and some little dampening rings seems ridiculous to me.  If they did in fact solve an issue with the keys then I hope it becomes standard for all boards in the future.
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« Reply #7 on: Fri, 13 April 2012, 09:48:21 »
Text formatting? Spell checker? Come on, this is a keyboard forum, where text and input are your main focus. Quite a shame to ruin a good review by leaving it as an unreadable sea of words.

You need to have paragraphs and proper formatting, justification etc. If this is a Wiki page, GH seriously need to raise their standards of acceptance.
« Last Edit: Fri, 13 April 2012, 09:51:50 by 1395985 »

Offline Jim66

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« Reply #8 on: Fri, 13 April 2012, 10:22:42 »
Quote from: 1395985;574525
Text formatting? Spell checker? Come on, this is a keyboard forum, where text and input are your main focus. Quite a shame to ruin a good review by leaving it as an unreadable sea of words.

You need to have paragraphs and proper formatting, justification etc. If this is a Wiki page, GH seriously need to raise their standards of acceptance.

That's a little harsh.

You're right, it isn't fantastically formatted but at least he took the time to write it.

Lack of formatting takes a little away from it but it doesn't ruin it!

Offline o2dazone

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« Reply #9 on: Fri, 13 April 2012, 10:41:45 »
Quote from: 1395985;574525
Text formatting? Spell checker? Come on, this is a keyboard forum, where text and input are your main focus.

I'm not sure if you're aware, but a ton of members on this forum can't even touch type.

fossala

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« Reply #10 on: Fri, 13 April 2012, 13:02:24 »
He is following me around and spamming all my threads. I'm not very good at spelling so please bare with me.

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« Reply #11 on: Fri, 13 April 2012, 13:21:53 »
Quote from: 1395985;574525
Text formatting? Spell checker? Come on, this is a keyboard forum, where text and input are your main focus. Quite a shame to ruin a good review by leaving it as an unreadable sea of words.

You need to have paragraphs and proper formatting, justification etc. If this is a Wiki page, GH seriously need to raise their standards of acceptance.


Anyone can write a review.  Take it easy.  If you can do better, be constructive and write your own.
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fossala

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« Reply #12 on: Fri, 13 April 2012, 13:27:39 »
Quote from: o2dazone;574568
I'm not sure if you're aware, but a ton of members on this forum can't even touch type.

I can touch type, at around 90-100 wpm. But the spelling isn't always right.