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« Reply #150 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 12:07:45 »
Not a bad idea, mkawa.  Thanks!
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« Reply #151 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 12:57:45 »
Cant wait to get this and powder coat it textured red to match my wrist rest....
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« Reply #152 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 13:36:20 »
oh man, maybe we should do a powdercoating group via treble to hve the natural colored ones painted (!!!)

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« Reply #153 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 15:15:16 »
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for those who were waiting for me to come ip with an attachment solution, i've pretty much settled on using 3m command strips if my plates need to be attached. i'm pretty sure you're all capable of using adhesive strips yourself, so i wouldn't worry too much about your case not passing through me


Sounds like a solid plan.  I've never used 3m command strips before, how many do you think I should use to ensure no movement without going overboard?  8 strips maybe?

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« Reply #154 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 16:51:26 »
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there are <6 of us left in the US? :/

sounds like direct is the way to go.

Oh no, there's 17 left in the US. There were only 3 people who opted out in all and another person who had to cancel prior to that for other reasons. If I could find a box big enough to fit in all 17 while at the same time not being too overly large (since they charge you by volumetric weight in additional to actual weight) then it would probably be less than $7 per case, but overall you'd only maybe be saving like $3 but you'd have to wait much longer for it to get to you, so it's easier to just send it directly since Canada Post to the US vs domestic US isn't that different in price to begin with. I only mentioned 6 because I found a box that can fit 6 cases perfectly so I was going to do 3 x 6 if I went with that plan I think.

Can someone link me to these 3M command strips you guys are talking about? Should I try to get some of those instead of gluing the two pieces? Still open to suggestions on this part. I found this but there's not much to look at in terms of pictures: http://products3.3m.com/catalog/ca/en001/office/-/node_LGSTKVVC48ge/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_GSZCZYKRQ9ge/theme_ca_en_office_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html
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« Reply #155 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 17:18:06 »
I've had a a couple of Pokers shipped from Canada and the Canada Post Surface took the same amount of time as Air.

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« Reply #156 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 17:20:32 »
Is it almost done? :D

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« Reply #157 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 17:27:14 »
The cases should be done within the next two days. Then I have to bring them to get anodized, which will take a minimum of 3 days, not sure what the max time is. After that I'll have to make a simple jig and glue the ones for those that requested it and I think I have to let the glue set for several hours. So while the glue is setting I'll send out the ones that didn't ask for it and the day after I'll send out the glued ones. So I'm expecting to have them ready around the end of next week or, if not, early the week after so long as everything goes well.
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« Reply #158 on: Thu, 26 April 2012, 16:21:04 »
Good news first:
1. The cases were finished today and I rushed over to pick them up.
2. The price didn't change for our lower order quantity, so it's still $64 base cost.
3. I paid in cash under the table, so we don't have to pay the 14.975% tax which reduces the cost of the case by about $9.60. As this is a non-profit project as always, any extra money will be used towards the cost of anodizing/shipping.
4. I immediately rushed over to the anodizing place to put in the order with them.

Bad news:
1. The anodizing place told me it would be 2-3 weeks. :(

Boost didn't want any finishing/anodizing done so here's some quick video of the case, but it's nothing you haven't really seen before:

[video=youtube_share;a_GPDytXYh4]http://youtu.be/a_GPDytXYh4[/video]

Then some pictures of all the cases and the inserts that are going in for finishing/anodizing:

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« Reply #159 on: Thu, 26 April 2012, 16:24:23 »
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« Reply #160 on: Thu, 26 April 2012, 16:24:50 »
Lookin good! :)
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« Reply #161 on: Thu, 26 April 2012, 16:58:45 »
Dope, is the 2-3 week option for the anodizing the best option we have right now?? Or are they already underway to be painted?
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« Reply #162 on: Thu, 26 April 2012, 17:06:04 »
Those weld marks look WAY better than I remember them looking on the prototype. That was my biggest concern by far.

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« Reply #163 on: Thu, 26 April 2012, 17:17:32 »
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Dope, is the 2-3 week option for the anodizing the best option we have right now?? Or are they already underway to be painted?

I already left the cases with them and placed the order. There's not much that I can do about the time frame unfortunately.

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Those weld marks look WAY better than I remember them looking on the prototype. That was my biggest concern by far.

Because they are made by hand some are extremely clean, some are a little bit messier, but overall they're pretty good I think, and the brushing/polishing will probably help to hide them even more.
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« Reply #164 on: Thu, 26 April 2012, 17:54:31 »
Looking really good I must say!  Shame about the anodizing wait time but another few weeks wont hurt, thanks again wahnproduct :)
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« Reply #165 on: Thu, 26 April 2012, 19:54:45 »
good work takes time :)

those look effing great!

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« Reply #166 on: Thu, 26 April 2012, 20:33:37 »
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good work takes time :)

those look effing great!

I'm pretty eager myself. I can't wait to see what the polished finish ends up looking like, it's going to be so super awesome and shiny. :D
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« Reply #167 on: Thu, 26 April 2012, 20:35:50 »
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I bought a full set of blank silver zinc keycaps from feng to use with it except for the spacebar and right shift which he doesn't have unfortunately.

I bet that was cheap... ;)

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« Reply #168 on: Thu, 26 April 2012, 21:24:50 »
Personal PM sent.  These look great.

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« Reply #169 on: Fri, 27 April 2012, 05:23:56 »
I feel like my oneproduct and treble318 cases are going to show up within days of each other. I only have one poker. No clue which one I'll end up using.

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« Reply #170 on: Fri, 27 April 2012, 05:26:17 »
^ I'm in the same boat.  lol :becky:

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« Reply #171 on: Fri, 27 April 2012, 15:56:52 »
And Boost's case if off! It should be arriving to him around Wednesday next week. The insert is wrapped in the white stuff which also doubles as insulating material to use between the insert and the case (you'll have to cut it to size after it serves it's double duty)! The insert itself is wrapped in two pieces of the foam and then I included a third one just in case. There are 6 screws which is the 5 you need for a Poker plus 1 spare or if you get a Pure in the future you can use it for that.

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Shipping materials weigh more than I though, so for people in the US I can't actually use the small packets as it exceeds the maximum weight for that shipping type.

Expedited Parcel - 4 business days ~ $18.36
[strike]Small Packet – Air - 4 to 10 business days ~ $15.67[/strike]
[strike]Small Packet – Surface - 6 to 12 business days ~ $12.66[/strike]

I'll look at UPS and USPS again sometime to check if it's worth sending them all to mkawa and then having him send them out domestically. For non-US international destinations the weight limit for small packet is higher so I can still use that.

I ordered some better fitting boxes today as well. It's pretty hard to find something to fit these cases which are 11-3/4" x 4-1/4" x 1". The one in the picture was something like 12-1/2" x 9" x 3" but I managed to get 12" x 6" x 2" boxes which I'll use for the other cases once they all get back from anodizing.

Just to mention a final price, without finishing/anodizing it came out to $87 total = case ($64) + shipping to US (this may go down a dollar or two) + materials (currently $2.74 per case). If you added on brushed finish + blue anodize for example that would be around $98 total, so in general it's just a little shy of treble's cases which cost $113 domestically. I hope these compare well to his.
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« Reply #172 on: Fri, 27 April 2012, 15:59:18 »
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« Reply #173 on: Fri, 27 April 2012, 16:27:09 »
so, jelly BOOST!!!!!

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« Reply #174 on: Fri, 27 April 2012, 20:13:15 »
we have a couple weeks to figure out shipping logistics, so take your time oneproduct. i'm still happy to proxy for everyone fwiw

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« Reply #175 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 01:18:13 »
Any update over the weekend oneproduct?

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« Reply #176 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 05:51:57 »
No word back from the anodizing place yet. They had told me 2-3 weeks 16 days ago, so they're still within their time frame. If I don't hear from them by then I'll go visit them to see how things are going.
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« Reply #177 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 09:17:42 »
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so, jelly BOOST!!!!!

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« Reply #178 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 10:39:23 »
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Those are nice pics you sent by TapaTalk.

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« Reply #179 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 14:24:38 »
what in the hell did boost cover that with? looks neat-o

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« Reply #180 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 14:36:25 »
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what in the hell did boost cover that with? looks neat-o

The blood and sweat of a 100 Chinese factory workers.

But in all seriousness, I think he referred to it as a textured [strike]anodize[/strike] powder-coated process?
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« Reply #181 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 14:54:35 »
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what in the hell did boost cover that with? looks neat-o

Powder coated Honda textured red :D

This is the same paint that are on the Honda viable covers. Honda head know what I'm talking about, I was once Honda head(good ole days)
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« Reply #182 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 17:42:26 »
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No word back from the anodizing place yet. They had told me 2-3 weeks 16 days ago, so they're still within their time frame. If I don't hear from them by then I'll go visit them to see how things are going.


Cool cool thanks man oh and very nice keyboard there boost =D

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« Reply #183 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 20:41:10 »
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Powder coated Honda textured red :D

This is the same paint that are on the Honda viable covers. Honda head know what I'm talking about, I was once Honda head(good ole days)

You mean valve cover?  :)  I don't think I've had a Honda w/ red.  (2 CRXs (90/91), Civic Si (02))
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« Reply #184 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 20:43:49 »
all the type r motors have had red valve covers (b18c-r, k20a-r, etc)

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« Reply #185 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 20:46:06 »
Oh yeah, that would be all those models I never had the opportunity to own for one reason or another.  :(  Would have lurved an SiR.
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« Reply #186 on: Sat, 12 May 2012, 20:56:19 »
also all f-series s2000 motors have red valve covers and i believe all nsx valve covers are red (but the latter i'm really not sure about).

fun honda fact: before the mortgage bubble crashed, honda was designing an s2000 type r to close out the s2000's production run. instead, we got the CR (type-S in japan).  (╯□)╯︵ ┻━┻

(note that all type Rs have motors hand-built to higher tolerances with uprated internals. basically every type R comes with another design pass for the motor. hence, the f2xc motors never got a significant design change after 2000 because of the housing bubble :/)
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« Reply #187 on: Mon, 14 May 2012, 18:47:39 »
The anodizing place called me today to let me know they're getting started on it now (they had been working on things from earlier customers). I asked them how long but they said they didn't know. Sorry this is taking so long guys, not much I can really do.
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« Reply #188 on: Mon, 14 May 2012, 18:58:01 »
eh, stuff happens. thanks for the update man!

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« Reply #189 on: Mon, 14 May 2012, 19:15:04 »
I really wanna see how this comes out..
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« Reply #190 on: Wed, 16 May 2012, 10:44:15 »
The finishing/anodizing place called me again this morning. They brushed one case and polished another one for testing purposes. Apparently the brushed one looks great but the polishing was a little bit pitted (I presume he means where they polish over the welded corners). I'm going to go over and visit them in about two hours to check for myself and I'll take some pictures or videos to show you guys. If the polishing really looks bad, I'm going to just have them all brushed instead.
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« Reply #191 on: Wed, 16 May 2012, 13:06:06 »
The first case is polished, the second is brushed. Sorry it's so blurry, it's just a cellphone camera.

You may want to mute the audio or lower your volume a little, there's some buzzing from machinery in the background.
[video=youtube_share;Y8UPsmHZ31c]http://youtu.be/Y8UPsmHZ31c[/video]

You can see a bit better in the pictures I took (first three are of the polished case's pits, last is the brushed case):

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You can see that there are little "pits" visible in the polished one which become visible when you polish off some of the surface of the aluminum. I'll send a PM to those who wanted it polished to see if they'd want to get it brushed instead.

edit: It's hard to tell from these video and pictures, but they look very nice in person and the finishing hid all the signs of welding on the outside corners (you can still see a tiny bit along the top edge though). Sorry I couldn't take more, they were in a hurry and didn't want to babysit me in the shop while I was taking pictures. I have to let them know what to go with as soon as possible, so I'm going to be calling them tomorrow morning. I personally don't think that the little pits are too bad, so if I don't hear back from people I'm going to assume that it's okay to go ahead with polishing.
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« Reply #192 on: Wed, 16 May 2012, 13:21:59 »
eeee those pits look a little rough. Hard to tell about the scale of them though. And did he say anything about whether or not the anodizing would fill them in or hide them?

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« Reply #193 on: Wed, 16 May 2012, 13:24:36 »
The second picture lets you see them at a better scale (about the size of a pinprick), in the first picture I'm pretty zoomed in on them. The anodizing won't hide them since it's more like changing the color of the aluminum rather than applying a layer of paint over it.
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« Reply #194 on: Wed, 16 May 2012, 13:25:47 »
I don't think it will fill the deeper ones..but the brushed looks great
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« Reply #195 on: Wed, 16 May 2012, 14:40:03 »
that's unfortunate. i'll think about it and decide tonight when i can look at the images on my computer

if i don't get back to this, just make my polished case brushed. the pits look pretty visible on the polished unit on my phone
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« Reply #196 on: Wed, 16 May 2012, 15:28:00 »
Lookin' good dude - happy to stick with the brushed decision ;)
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« Reply #197 on: Wed, 16 May 2012, 16:13:13 »
Since it is only brushed will it be more prone to scratches and knicks?? I get the feeling that if the brushed on were on my desk the bottom of the case that is not elevated and resting on my desk could get scratched by some dirt or dust on my desk (not that my desk is dirty but it seems like a possible issue), but the polished looks like the clear outer coat could protect it from what I mentioned. Are the pits guaranteed to show up on polished cases?? and is it going to be a polished vs brushed decision as a whole??
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« Reply #198 on: Wed, 16 May 2012, 16:46:43 »
For the finishing you choose polished or brushed, then whichever you choose, it will also be anodized, and the anodizing protects it from scratches and such.

The pits would be random for each piece of aluminum.

It won't be polished vs brushed as a whole. You can choose the finish you want individually.
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« Reply #199 on: Wed, 16 May 2012, 20:00:41 »
Ok, in that case I'll take mine brushed then I dont want to see those pits
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