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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #150 on: Tue, 28 July 2015, 21:15:38 »
when it comes to cherries, i just hate tactile/clicky. they feel ridiculous, just wrong. i dig tactile switches, but not cherries.
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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #151 on: Tue, 28 July 2015, 21:18:04 »
when it comes to cherries, i just hate tactile/clicky. they feel ridiculous, just wrong. i dig tactile switches, but not cherries.

what tactiles do you like?
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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #152 on: Wed, 29 July 2015, 00:37:51 »
when it comes to cherries, i just hate tactile/clicky. they feel ridiculous, just wrong. i dig tactile switches, but not cherries.

what tactiles do you like?

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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #153 on: Wed, 29 July 2015, 07:51:54 »
Since day one I preferred linear, dont really see a point in having tactile feedback. Topre I guess is about as much feedback as I can handle
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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #154 on: Wed, 29 July 2015, 09:01:08 »
Hmmmm, I kinda like switches all over the places.
By daytime, I use red switch and at night I use brown or matias quiet.

By doing that, I can appreciate the goodness of both world. I can enjoy the linear thoroughly and the subtle tactile of brown until I start ignoring the tactile feel altogether or feel the tactility of matias. I haven't tried Topre though, maybe when I drunk buy a novatouch.

One thing though, I hate heavy switches like black. It felt mushy to me, I even prefer logitech k100 over that.

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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #155 on: Wed, 29 July 2015, 10:42:17 »
Cherry MX Blue for lyfe!

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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #156 on: Wed, 29 July 2015, 10:47:47 »
maybe when I drunk buy a novatouch.

lol :D one way of increasing your assortment

when it comes to cherries, i just hate tactile/clicky. they feel ridiculous, just wrong. i dig tactile switches, but not cherries.

what tactiles do you like?

Topre :)

i actually do. why, is it weird to like one but dislike the other?

i'm thinking it might have to do with the fact that i tend to bottom out, no matter what switch i use.
typing on tactile cherries make me feel "why is this here", as i pass the click or bump. to me, they feel purposeless and that becomes a nuisance.
i can still understand why people like tactile cherries, though, as feedback is pretty sweet.
i guess the feedback from bottoming out on cherries is all i really need :cool:
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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #157 on: Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:39:59 »
i do lol get fkt
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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #158 on: Thu, 30 July 2015, 03:22:55 »
To me, tactility isn't about feedback - that's what clickiness is for. For me, tactility is about making you put in a certain amount of extra effort to press a key. Given enough force to overcome the tactility, you're sure to actuate the switch during or afterwards. With linears, you might be lulled into typing too lightly, because there's nothing to make you type strongly enough, thereby not actually actuating the switch. The clicky feedback is useful for me as I don't fully touch-type, I still look at my fingers sometimes, usually to "reset" my fingers properly, and I don't use the technique properly anyway (I don't use the right home buttons and I mainly hit the spacebar with my right index finger rather than my thumb. I also exclusively use the right shift).

Your last sentence finally made sense to me. Now I get it. And yet there are many true touch typists who like tactility too. This is what I don't get—it's the "belt and suspenders" thing.
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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #159 on: Thu, 30 July 2015, 03:35:48 »
I think that what differentiates garbage rubber domes from topre and cherry (etc) switches, aside from the quality and durability, is the strong bump of pressing topre and tactile switches (having tried blues, browns, clears, blacks, reds, greens and 45g topre switches) vs the feeling of rubber domes, and I think that reds and blacks are not as bad as the usual rubber domes, but don't quite have the mechanical feeling of the other switches. Topre feel more like mechanical switches and less like rubber domes than reds/blacks.
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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #160 on: Thu, 30 July 2015, 04:13:07 »
Your last sentence finally made sense to me. Now I get it. And yet there are many true touch typists who like tactility too. This is what I don't get—it's the "belt and suspenders" thing.
I touch type and I like both ways. Maybe because before doing mechanical I was heavily using scissors. Linear is like deeper scissors with soft cloud pad to me

I think that what differentiates garbage rubber domes from topre and cherry (etc) switches, aside from the quality and durability, is the strong bump of pressing topre and tactile switches (having tried blues, browns, clears, blacks, reds, greens and 45g topre switches) vs the feeling of rubber domes, and I think that reds and blacks are not as bad as the usual rubber domes, but don't quite have the mechanical feeling of the other switches. Topre feel more like mechanical switches and less like rubber domes than reds/blacks.
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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #161 on: Sun, 09 August 2015, 04:22:39 »


Why, change my mind too, of course.

A friend of mine just got a Filco Majestouch with Cherry MX Blues. I tried it. Wow—it was just like the clicky KBs I loved using in the '80s!

And you don't need to be logical about clicky switches. They're just fun to type on. The sound and feeling can even stimulate your thoughts as you type. Whee!

So, I was entirely wrong, and I'm not afraid to admit it. Click away! Cheers, A.
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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #162 on: Sun, 09 August 2015, 05:26:55 »
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Why, change my mind too, of course.

A friend of mine just got a Filco Majestouch with Cherry MX Blues. I tried it. Wow—it was just like the clicky KBs I loved using in the '80s!

And you don't need to be logical about clicky switches. They're just fun to type on. The sound and feeling can even stimulate your thoughts as you type. Whee!

So, I was entirely wrong, and I'm not afraid to admit it. Click away! Cheers, A.
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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #163 on: Sun, 09 August 2015, 05:46:37 »
Clicky switches are indeed fun until the headache kicks in, at that time, a linear or tactile is needed to fall back to
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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #164 on: Sun, 09 August 2015, 06:14:12 »
Linear switches (and Thorpe) are good for when everyone else has gone to bed.
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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #165 on: Sun, 09 August 2015, 06:21:43 »
Linear switches (and Thorpe) are good for when everyone else has gone to bed.
I switch from linear switches to very quiet scissor switches, when some of my relatives go to bed, even in some other room. Properly dampened switches would be the only other option (other than a touchscreen or non-mechanical optical sensing), and I don't mean any stinkin' o-rings on keycaps.

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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #166 on: Sun, 09 August 2015, 06:23:43 »
I actually like typing on red. My Filco was on reds, and the Poker 2 I just bought is red too.

But nothing beats typing on these Topres :D
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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #167 on: Sun, 09 August 2015, 07:09:06 »
So.... Give a chance to greens

Green Cherrys, you mean? They sound awesome, but where can you get them? Are they still made, or are we talking vintage treasure-hunting here?

And BTW, anyone who wants to, feel free to guffaw heartily at my previous switch-ignorance.
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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #168 on: Sun, 09 August 2015, 07:30:23 »
You can make ghetto greens by putting MX Black springs into MX Blue switches. It's the easiest to try something like that, if you have a PCB-mount keyboard.

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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #169 on: Sun, 09 August 2015, 08:01:27 »
So.... Give a chance to greens

Green Cherrys, you mean? They sound awesome, but where can you get them? Are they still made, or are we talking vintage treasure-hunting here?

And BTW, anyone who wants to, feel free to guffaw heartily at my previous switch-ignorance.
Yes, I mean cherry. I bougth mine a year ago  at amazon USA. Cm storm quickfire stealth. Also I think there are ducky boards with cherry mx green. Wasd keyboards offers green switches too.

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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #170 on: Sun, 09 August 2015, 20:37:38 »
I don't mind typing on MX Black, but the keyboard just melts into the background when I'm typing on tactile switches.

And that, to me, is a sign of a good keyboard. If I'm thinking about the keyboard, that means something is bugging me about it. If it fades from consciousness, then I've found the right combo.

Interestingly enough, I find I bottom out harder on clicky switches vs the browns I'm currently typing on. Even though actuation force is the same.
  
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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #171 on: Mon, 10 August 2015, 04:36:02 »
Same felling here about mx blue. I bottom out harder than on other kind of switches. The tactile bump is too stiffer

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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #172 on: Mon, 10 August 2015, 05:25:13 »

Green Cherrys, you mean?

Yes, I mean cherry. I bougth mine a year ago  at amazon USA. Cm storm quickfire stealth. Also I think there are ducky boards with cherry mx green. Wasd keyboards offers green switches too.

I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it right here. Wow!

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Re: Who here actually likes typing on linear switches? (MX Black / Red)
« Reply #173 on: Mon, 07 May 2018, 10:36:28 »
I tried out the MX Cherry silent reds and really liked them. I did in fact return the keyboard for regular reds. Not sure if it was a good choice, the silent do feel a little more squishy but it feels better bottoming out on them, which yes I know you shouldn't do lol. But when I tried out the WASD multi switch pad I really liked reds the best. I really like linear keys, just gotta figure out if I want silent reds or not again.