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Offline therecorder

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How to get a Leopold?
« on: Wed, 02 May 2012, 05:16:06 »
Elite Keyboards, on their FAQ, says that they will not honor warranties on international shipments, that items are sold to international buyers simply as a "curtsey"!  I don't wish to chance buying like that.  Is there any other place that sells Leopold Keyboards...  Perhaps in Asia (English site translation)?
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« Reply #1 on: Wed, 02 May 2012, 05:32:47 »
Where are you based?
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Offline therecorder

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« Reply #2 on: Wed, 02 May 2012, 05:35:10 »
In Israel...  Was just looking at their site, but everything is in Korean. http://www.leopold.co.kr/
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« Reply #3 on: Wed, 02 May 2012, 07:28:13 »
Wanted an Otaku, but got frustrated and tired of trying to find a safe way to buy one.  So, I went to WASD and ordered a (entirely black, blank) 104-Key Cherry MX Keycap Set to put on my Filco Camo.  Anyway, $50 (with shipping) is better than around $200 (with shipping, Customs, and VAT) for a new board.  Guess I will now have a Filco Camo Silent with "Camo" keycaps. :painkiller:
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« Reply #4 on: Wed, 02 May 2012, 07:37:02 »
As a seller, all but one of my problems have been on an international shipping.

Unfortunately, Post Offices in various countries do not play well together, and, personally, I think that it is only fair that the risk be borne by the buyer rather than the seller.

The alternative, with private carriers, is a much higher shipping price, again, the buyer's problem, not the seller's.

Yesterday a buyer in Australia referred to an "international economy" rate from FedEx, which might be GREAT if it is available, because their tracking is so good.
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Offline therecorder

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« Reply #5 on: Wed, 02 May 2012, 07:44:56 »
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As a seller, all but one of my problems have been on an international shipping.

Unfortunately, Post Offices in various countries do not play well together, and, personally, I think that it is only fair that the risk be borne by the buyer rather than the seller.

The alternative, with private carriers, is a much higher shipping price, again, the buyer's problem, not the seller's.

Yesterday a buyer in Australia referred to an "international economy" rate from FedEx, which might be GREAT if it is available, because their tracking is so good.

If you reread my initial post, you will see that I was not complaining about the shipping cost.  I was complaining about Elite not honoring warantees on international shipments.  http://elitekeyboards.com/support.php  Under "-  Do you ship internationally?", about 3" below this question.
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« Reply #6 on: Wed, 02 May 2012, 10:02:31 »
Well, I was actually addressing the tracking/liability issue, but they all work together against the international buyer, because if the seller has to honor a warranty issue, shipping both ways internationally is probably as much as the price of the board itself.

So, do you make the buyer pay shipping, or each pay for one way? It gets ugly in any case.
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"However, even though I was born in the Mesozoic, I do know what anyone who wants to reach out to young people should say: Billionaires took your money. They took your chance to buy a home. They took your chance at a good education. They stole your opportunities. Billionaires took the things you want in life. If you really want those things, you have to take them back.
That's the message. That's the whole message. Say that every day, not just to reach America's frustrated young white men, but people of every age, race, and gender.
Late-stage capitalism is a wealth-concentration engine, focused on vacuuming up every dollar and putting it in as few hands as possible. Republicans are helping that vacuum suck.
How does a tiny fraction of the population get away with this? They do it by dividing the other 99% of Americans against themselves."
- Marc Sumner 2025-05-30

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« Reply #7 on: Wed, 02 May 2012, 11:58:10 »
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Well, I was actually addressing the tracking/liability issue, but they all work together against the international buyer, because if the seller has to honor a warranty issue, shipping both ways internationally is probably as much as the price of the board itself.

So, do you make the buyer pay shipping, or each pay for one way? It gets ugly in any case.

The same rules should apply to international and domestic buyers.  Ultimately, it is the manufacturer who will pay for the defective keyboard, not the reseller.  If the manufacturer won't warranty their product for international sales, then the reseller shouldn't sell it internationally.  But, the reseller of difficult to buy items (such as mechanical keyboards) knows that the buyer will often buy, in spite of the chance he or she is taking (especially when the warning is hidden in some FAQ sheet).  This an unfair business practices, if not illegal.
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