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« on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 12:41:32 »
2.0+2.1 or anything out there

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« Reply #1 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 12:44:12 »
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« Reply #2 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 12:47:20 »
lol yea gl to me..

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« Reply #3 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 14:54:56 »
That's pretty mean, bro.

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« Reply #4 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 15:04:11 »
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Lol.  Rollback sig.

Your font is off a bit. it's NOT Courier but a variant.

It's close enough :P

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« Reply #5 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 15:56:47 »
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That's pretty mean, bro.

I joke with jrockroll all the time :P

He knows it's all in good fun :)
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« Reply #6 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 16:00:07 »
true that lol

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« Reply #7 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 16:03:58 »
Anyone explain to me why its not possible to just do another RA GB? What was so special about it, there is obviously the interest, everyone appears to want one. What am i missing?

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« Reply #8 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 16:28:33 »
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Anyone explain to me why its not possible to just do another RA GB? What was so special about it, there is obviously the interest, everyone appears to want one. What am i missing?

The legend owners won't grant permission to use them.

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« Reply #9 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 16:37:33 »
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i thought reaper posted that for a second.

since he likes to show off :p


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« Reply #10 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 16:44:02 »
if the style of keycaps don't fit your kbd, sell them to me!!!

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« Reply #11 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 16:46:09 »
GLWOU (good luck with obtaining unobtainium)!

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« Reply #12 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 17:30:13 »
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i thought reaper posted that for a second.

Nope, mine is right here. lol



Oh and good luck jrockroll.  I saw your post over at KBDMania looking for this set among other things. =P
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« Reply #13 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 17:32:04 »
If these are so in demand why doesn't someone run another larger GB?

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« Reply #14 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 17:43:42 »
Ragnorack will be doing it. But it won't be the same

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« Reply #15 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 17:44:00 »
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Nope, mine is right here. lol

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Oh and good luck jrockroll.  I saw your post over at KBDMania looking for this set among other things. =P

Reaper, are you Jonathan in kbdmania?

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« Reply #16 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 17:48:53 »
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Reaper, are you Jonathan in kbdmania?

lol Nope but I gave him permission to use my pics. =P
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« Reply #17 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 20:51:09 »
No, it won't be the same....it will be better.

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« Reply #18 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 21:53:58 »
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The legend owners won't grant permission to use them.

And this is the only thing stopping people? Just make new ones?

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« Reply #19 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 21:57:44 »
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And this is the only thing stopping people? Just make new ones?

Legends = fonts. So what font is it? And I am pretty sure you can make your own icons easily to match. Or I can do it for you in Illustrator (only if I get a set for my work) :D

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« Reply #20 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 22:04:06 »
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And this is the only thing stopping people? Just make new ones?

SP charges $45 per legend. So for a 104 set the legend fees alone are quite high. Then factor in prototype costs to make sure they get it all correct. Seems those are ~$65 per key.

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« Reply #21 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 22:08:46 »
I got an -F on math. What would it be the cost then.

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« Reply #22 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 22:11:28 »
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I got an -F on math. What would it be the cost then.

Over 4k in legend fees alone.

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« Reply #23 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 22:11:52 »
It seems though no one is willing to sell

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« Reply #24 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 22:11:57 »
crap.....

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« Reply #25 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 22:15:28 »
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It seems though no one is willing to sell

There's a red num row on auction over at Deskthority. Already at around 30+ euros though.

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« Reply #26 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 22:16:56 »
yea not interested in those.

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« Reply #27 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 22:17:22 »
Can we do number row in double shot and the rest in pbt dye-sub. ?

Is that will be cheaper?

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« Reply #28 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 22:22:29 »
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And this is the only thing stopping people? Just make new ones?

There is also the issue of good will between us and the Korean forums.  A knock-off RA set with exactly duplicated legends might not be the best way to encourage them to include us in their projects (e.g., the Diablo set).

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SP charges $45 per legend. So for a 104 set the legend fees alone are quite high. Then factor in prototype costs to make sure they get it all correct. Seems those are ~$65 per key.

I think most of the legends are SP's standard font ... isn't it just the symbol-only modifiers that are custom?

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« Reply #29 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 22:30:35 »
i think red number row is custom font
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« Reply #30 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 22:31:15 »
I'm not sure about which fonts were used but I saw from your Cherry font thread that it's a flat $45 per legend going forward. I think the num row has some custom legends too though.

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« Reply #31 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 22:38:52 »
Only 24 custom fonts in that set

It's not that we can't remake it, but it's definitely bad form considering the time OTD/DT took to put this group buy together to just replicate it. If anything I do hope OTD makes another run but to just entirely remake the set I think it's bad for the community.
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« Reply #32 on: Sun, 13 May 2012, 22:48:27 »
it's also bad to exclude people for whatever reason
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« Reply #33 on: Mon, 14 May 2012, 01:00:37 »
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it's also bad to exclude people for whatever reason

This.

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« Reply #34 on: Mon, 14 May 2012, 05:25:28 »
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it's also bad to exclude people for whatever reason

Exactly. I don't feel any obligation to pander to a bunch of elitist nerds just so we can get nice stuff. Make our own, include everyone, the way it should be. I hate this exclusivity nonsense.

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« Reply #35 on: Thu, 17 May 2012, 10:28:23 »
bump

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« Reply #36 on: Thu, 17 May 2012, 10:37:32 »
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Exactly. I don't feel any obligation to pander to a bunch of elitist nerds just so we can get nice stuff. Make our own, include everyone, the way it should be. I hate this exclusivity nonsense.


Have you tried getting a ClickClack lately? :)

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« Reply #37 on: Thu, 17 May 2012, 10:40:00 »
Free bump - would have a lot more luck over at OTD for this set. Even then, that's pushing it.

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« Reply #38 on: Thu, 17 May 2012, 10:56:09 »
totally ot, but i think if we do a red alert-like set it should be our own design using a similar color scheme and not a duplicate. life is too short to rehash

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