Again thanks for all the quick and helpful comments

. The CM quickfire is looking more and more like the board im set on, i dont want/need to spend money on a Filco as i already have one, this is simply a gaming/lan board

so im not so fussed on typing just more so that its quiet and reliable and easy to game on

. Quality seems to be a strong point for the quickfire and it also looks a bargain at half the price of filcos and comes with a 2 year warranty, apparently the Mx-RED versions are due in a month or so and im not in a huge urgency so i can wait for that to hopefully arrive as £65 is a great price

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I will be keeping an eye out on the pokers secondhand though while im waiting, thanks for all the comments guys i appreciate the extra help!.