Green Cherry MX - Price Check

[ShakeR]

How much you pay for a quality spec 104 w/ Green Cherry MX throughout?

FYI... these switches makes Reds look cheap.

[DanGWanG]

What about a 87 keyboard?

[ShakeR]

What about a 87 keyboard?

That too.  87 and 104

[NuFon]

Pictures please <3

[daerid]

Aren't greens essentially to blues what blacks are to reds? Clicky with a stiffer spring? Good god why would somebody want an entire board with those?

[Ahlitah]

cause Blue's are too light!

[daerid]

Nevar!!!!!

[TheSoulhunter]

150 for a TKL!

[GeorgeStorm]

Would be very interested in the 87 key one, having gotten used to blacks, blues feel a bit light now

Who would be willing to make one?

[The_Ed]

I could mod a blue board to ghetto greens as I have black springs from when I did placebo guy's filco mod.

[thegunner100]

Interested, the most i'd pay is around $150, the price of a Filco. But that's only if the keyboard is of similiar quality!

Though if you want to sell it at quickfire prices, i'd be happy to buy one for that price too :music:

[The_Ed]

Every green or ghetto green board in existence is a modded board.

[Quarzac]

Well, I paid about $75 for 110 green switches, and I can get a G80-3000 for around that, so when I account for higher bulk discounts, maybe $120?

[spolia optima]

Is the white MX switch no longer in production?

[The_Ed]

$140 shipped minimum for a g80-3000 green kit with quite a few orders. I would expect closer to $160 though.

Modding a board you are tired of to ghetto green would be far cheaper.

[The_Ed]

Is the white MX switch no longer in production?

It is still in production and can be ordered from 7bit. I ordered 4? of them to see what they're like.

[ShakeR]

It is still in production and can be ordered from 7bit. I ordered 4? of them to see what they're like.

The Clear Cherry MX switches themselves are out of production by Cherry Corp.  There are still Clear Cherry boards left around and there are probably manufacturers that still have some left in their raw stock.

Yes, Green Cherry MX is stiffer Blue Cherry MX.  They actually feel quite good.

[The_Ed]

The Clear Cherry MX switches themselves are out of production by Cherry Corp.  There are still Clear Cherry boards left around and there are probably manufacturers that still have some left in their raw stock.

Yes, Green Cherry MX is stiffer Blue Cherry MX.  They actually feel quite good.

He asked about WHITE not clear, they're different switches. And both were ordered by 7bit in his switch GB. WHITE mx boards are very hard to find, but clear mx show up quite often. I own a clear board that was produced in 2010.

[Carter]

Would really love to hear everyons thoughts on greens. I think it could be quite the popular switch. I am currently typing on greens and love it.

[sth]

Aren't greens essentially to blues what blacks are to reds? Clicky with a stiffer spring? Good god why would somebody want an entire board with those?

It's a fun and easy mod, but I have a feeling most Cherry users won't end up liking an all-green board for very long... buckling spring users might like it though.

[MMB]

I have stuff to make ghetto greens. I have tons of mx black springs, and mx blue switches for sale here:

*Shameless plug*
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?32399-MM-s-Blowout-Sale!

[Daniel Beardsmore]

Wait, so all the Q (clears) models here are end of life? http://www.cherry.de/cid/b2b_corded_keyboards_G80-3000.htm

I've never been able to perceive the difference between blues and the MX green on my spacebar, but the idea of a keyboard with stiffer blues sounds interesting.

[ShakeR]

Wait, so all the Q (clears) models here are end of life? http://www.cherry.de/cid/b2b_corded_keyboards_G80-3000.htm

Based on what I've heard from multiple credible sources - including multiple Cherry distributors.  I always thought they were kind of cool.

I'm sure if demand really picks up they may reconsider.

[Daniel Beardsmore]

I never know what sorts of economies of scale we're talking about with this community. The MX red switch took off like crazy – seeing every company and its dog selling MX reds now, not long since they were merely a scarce novelty. But would Cherry do well to introduce, say, official ergo clears? (Notwithstanding reports of them sticking when first assembled.)

I'm tempted to buy a German Cherry G80-3000 with clears to see whether it would ease my unease with the excessive lightness of browns, but I've already bought way too many keyboards and I don't like selling them I haven't even tried blacks yet – I'm told that they're far better than BBC Micro switches, but I don't know that the person who said that has the same switches in his Beeb as me, as they came with four different types and I've only ever used Type I, a bog standard linear switch that I never cared for. Probably relates to where in the country you are, as manufacturing was outsourced to a variety of companies.

Greens, though ... My only fear is that they'd be even more jarring than blues, which for me are right on the edge of what's tolerable.

[1391401]

For me the price-point in boards is around 100 but I would definitely pay up to 150 for a board that comes with greens as this is something I have wanted since making the transition from Buckling Spring to Cherry MX.

[dorkvader]

This is why I ordered a bunch of green and "albino green" (white) in the cherry MX GB. I finally got to try them and sholud have opted for clears (to make ergo clears) but I still really liked the green. Maybe it's the IBM-lover in me, but I prefer them to blues.

So I'm not interested, since I have 220 of these on order already, but I'd probably only pay $130 for it.

[Chris_F]

This is why I ordered a bunch of green and "albino green" (white) in the cherry MX GB. I finally got to try them and sholud have opted for clears (to make ergo clears) but I still really liked the green. Maybe it's the IBM-lover in me, but I prefer them to blues.

So I'm not interested, since I have 220 of these on order already, but I'd probably only pay $130 for it.

How do the greens compare to buckling springs?

[dorkvader]

How do the greens compare to buckling springs?

They are both heavy, and rather tactile.

[win]

Very interested
$130-$140

I'd also be interested in Clears, if you could make it work. Perhaps more so than Greens.

[phetto]

I would just like a few of them for testing how they feel. Maybe swap blue for green at space.

[DanGWanG]

A little birdy told me its a CM Stormy.  Priced higher than reds...

[Th3KAS]

I would pay a reasonable premium for lesser-used switches like Clears and Greens.

[Forin]

I have a white Filco with MX Black in the mail. I plan to mod one of my boards to MX Ghetto Greens and other one to MX Ghetto Reds.

I haven't decided which one will be which yet

[OrangeJewce]

I agree with all here, $130 - $150 seems reasonable. I plan on trying to get an ErgoDox tricked out with Greens!

Cheers,

[Typhaeon]

Yes, please do this.  Greens and Clears are the switches I'd love to try out the best.

[inlikeflynn]

i'd be interested in trying out a green board as well.

Even more interesting would be a cherry yellow board....impossible I know

[OrangeJewce]

A little birdy told me its a CM Stormy.  Priced higher than reds...

That would be awesome, esp if it's only marginally more expensive.

Cheers,

[ShakeR]

He asked about WHITE not clear, they're different switches. And both were ordered by 7bit in his switch GB. WHITE mx boards are very hard to find, but clear mx show up quite often. I own a clear board that was produced in 2010.

Doh! I was always thought they were used synonymously...

[alaricljs]

The stem of a clear is a milky white.  The white stem is solid stark white.  Clears are tactile, whites are tactile and clicky.  I don't know how the springs compare however.

[ShakeR]

It's a fun and easy mod, but I have a feeling most Cherry users won't end up liking an all-green board for very long... buckling spring users might like it though.

BS 2nd only to 45 Topres in typing appeal

http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/mechanical_switches.php

[OrangeJewce]

BS 2nd only to 45 Topres in typing appeal

http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/mechanical_switches.php

ShakeR,

     Im a nub. Fixt

Cheers,

[Daniel Beardsmore]

That list is disingenuous, as it lists "white ALPS" as if it were a model of switch, when it could mean any of a whole range of models, and Type I (Fukka) is so much nicer than Type II (XM).

Even green ALPS is confusing as XM switches reportedly come in both linear and clicky varieties, though I've seen no proof that either the TP3 greens are Type II, or that Ducky greens are Type II either. (I took apart a Type IV last night and I can see how annoying Type II and Type IV are to reassemble. Not going to try that on my own TP3 until I'm sure I won't destroy the switch in the process.)

[ShakeR]

That list is disingenuous, as it lists "white ALPS" as if it were a model of switch, when it could mean any of a whole range of models, and Type I (Fukka) is so much nicer than Type II (XM).

Even green ALPS is confusing as XM switches reportedly come in both linear and clicky varieties, though I've seen no proof that either the TP3 greens are Type II, or that Ducky greens are Type II either. (I took apart a Type IV last night and I can see how annoying Type II and Type IV are to reassemble. Not going to try that on my own TP3 until I'm sure I won't destroy the switch in the process.)

Yeah, the ALPS are a pain to list.  If you really want to have fun, we can throw in the DataComp 'DC Switches' (ALPS style) and Tai-Boi 'APC Switches' (ALPS style) that recently came out / soon to come.  I'll start a thread on this to see about clearing up the confusion.

[ShakeR]

I'm interested - but for **** sake if it's a one off custom CM Storm order please tell them to ditch the branding on this!

$125-$140 range depending on the model, but if it has ugly as sin CM Storm branding no more than $100.

And don't let them BS you that they can't do it - they are making non-branded CM Storms for Korea called the 'Groove 87' in the same factory.

Haha! Got it.

[ShakeR]

That list is disingenuous, as it lists "white ALPS" as if it were a model of switch, when it could mean any of a whole range of models, and Type I (Fukka) is so much nicer than Type II (XM).

Even green ALPS is confusing as XM switches reportedly come in both linear and clicky varieties, though I've seen no proof that either the TP3 greens are Type II, or that Ducky greens are Type II either. (I took apart a Type IV last night and I can see how annoying Type II and Type IV are to reassemble. Not going to try that on my own TP3 until I'm sure I won't destroy the switch in the process.)

Daniel, you're input would be very much appreciated on the thread below as no one has responded yet.  Is there a wiki on this I'm missing?  Maybe that's the cause of the low response.  I'd like to get all the info and create something organized for everyone to have available.

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?32613-ALPS-Switches-Unraveled-Let-s-do-this!

[Daniel Beardsmore]

It's like t-shirts that bear advertising for the designer – few are content now to simply print a good design and leave it at that.

Every company now has to have a slogan, which only works on people too stupid to realise that the slogan will always portray the company in a highly positive light regardless of reality. Would I trust a company's word on how good it is?

Gamer market branding though is just off the scale. Even WiNDy ALFEEL II keyboards have self-promotion printed on the spacebar – how low can you get? I hope that rubbish comes off with meths or something.

FILCO for me get it right – just one logo, and very stylishly designed in textured metal. It's highly elegant and  not in-your-face.

[Daniel Beardsmore]

Is there a wiki on this I'm missing?

Haha.

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=ALPS+switches

Knock yourself out. There is a reason for ALPS's notoriety for complete and utter confusion.

Obviously in recent years we've only seen Fukka white (clicky; newer FILCO Zero, Tactile Pro 3), Fukka black (linear; ABS M1), XM white (clicky; older FILCO Zero), new XM greens (clicky; Ducky), and whatever older Tactile Pro models used. The TP3 also has older XM greens that are linear switches bearing LEDs. Green ALPS were always linear (and linear ALPS, typically green) up until the new XM greens came out, assuming they're actually Type II ("XM") and not Type IV or something else. Type IV and II look the same from the outside, and have identical electrical switches, but different click leaves.