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Offline intelligent-pro

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Re: DAMN IT, i've been duped? (noppoo mini)|
« Reply #50 on: Wed, 19 December 2012, 03:59:50 »
Hi everyone,

I am the seller intelligent-pro.

One of our customers asked some questions about our keyboard based on this topic in geekhack. :eek:
So I think we have to make things clear here.   ;D

First,I must say sorry to viowastaken as you get a bad experience in our shop. :-[
We have edit the listing to avoid misunderstanding now.

Second,the mark on the logo can be erased with water if you think it is very ugly.
And now,we will not mark the logo any more.

As you know,Noppoo is registered in US and its factory is in China.
We are a primary agent of Noppoo China and order directly from the factory.
So the customs may consider it as a fake Noppoo keyboard as it is a US brand.
We marked the noppoo brand just to avoid customs problem.

Now we have found a way to ship the Noppoo keyboard without checking the brand.
So we will NOT mark the brand any more if you order from our shop.

Third,this is really the new version of Noppoo Choc Mini which you can contact Noppoo China for confirmation.

Actually there is no fake mechanical keyboard as I suppose.
If you use the cherry mx switches to fake Noppoo keyboards, the cost can make establish another brand(Cherry mx switches is costy).
If you do not use the cherry mx switches,it can easily be distinguished with origianal cherry mx switches.

Please feel free to contact us if any questions about Noppoo. ;)
Best regards. 

Intelligent-pro









Hi everyone, I posted this same thread on Overclock, but I figured I'd ask/share here  too as people probably know more here :)


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So,

I have a Noppoo Choc mini with cherry mx Reds already, and I decided to get one with Browns and give the one with reds away to a friend.

I order one from "intelligent-pro" on ebay, who had 25k+ transactions with 99.4% positive feedback. A sure thing, I figure.




Today I got my package, and immediately some things strike me as very odd.
The space bar where Noppoo is written has been overwritten with a sharpie or other type of marker. The Noppoo logo on the back of the keyboard has also been overwritten.
The keys them selves are not the matte white that the regular noppoo choc mini is, not that that necessarily is a drawback, but it clearly indicates that this keyboard is odd.
The keyboards have a clear difference in height and angle of the keys them selves.
The support pads underneath are clearly different.
The "case" of the keyboard is very different.

The first noppoo choc mini that I ordered was from Qtan which is a beyond repute dealer on eBay who has had intimate contact with geekhack etc. He's legit, and I know for a fact that the cherry mx red keyboard is legit.
This one with cherry mx browns is clearly a copy of some kind. **** this sucks.

Thoughts?
Here are some pics of my genuine keyboard next to this other presumably fake one:
Pic album: http://imgur.com/a/H9vo1#0

Offline rowdy

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Re: DAMN IT, i've been duped? (noppoo mini)|
« Reply #51 on: Wed, 19 December 2012, 04:14:05 »
Welcome to Geekhack!

Although you will probably get a fair bit of positive and negative feedback, thank you for registering to try to clear up the situation.  So often these kinds of transactions are left hanging, and no-one knows what really happened.  At least you have offered an explanation as to what occurred.
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Offline ksm123

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Re: DAMN IT, i've been duped? (noppoo mini)|
« Reply #52 on: Mon, 18 March 2013, 12:50:37 »
I just got Noppoo Choc Mini (Brown) I bought from intelligent-pro, there is a little glitch (see through plastic is missing in Pause Break/Scroll Lock Key), but other than that keyboard is 100% fine, I'm using it right now to type its post.

Contrary to eBay item description I've found keycap puller included in box.

The rest is fine, packing was solid, I've ordered keyboard on 5 March and received it on 18 March. Packing was plain enough to avoid attention of Polish customs, so there was no duty nor VAT.

Offline crthell

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Re: DAMN IT, i've been duped? (noppoo mini)|
« Reply #53 on: Mon, 18 March 2013, 23:14:00 »
holy necropost.
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Offline tauburn

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Re: DAMN IT, i've been duped? (noppoo mini)|
« Reply #54 on: Tue, 19 March 2013, 20:58:03 »
probably got refurbished.