New 1391401 - $185 BIN

[wellington1869]

it'll probably sell for 185. People seem to like the unused ones a lot.
I dont mind a used one at all. These things were built to last anyway. Got mine for 20 bucks shipped.

[Manyak]

Heh, I got a brand new 401 about a month ago for $85. And I've seen a couple more BNIB ones on ebay since then, for around $100 buy-it-now.

[watduzhkstand4]

that will skyrocket. But it is kind of weird that there is only one day left and no one bid on it yet. For keyboards I usually see lots of people bidding on them way before the listing ends.

[bigpook]

While used can be just as good, you have to admit there is something special about a NIB.
I have no idea how many NIB's are still out there, does anyone?
But I do think its too early to tell. The sellers may just be holding off for now. Why kill the market when you can milk it.

I do agree though that when the day comes and they truly are gone, like really gone. Then the prices will skyrocket. Maybe then Unicomp will come back and be THE vendor for BS keyboards.

[wellington1869]

NIB is definitely special, but I cant help but wonder if they're $300 worth special  
I guess they are to some people (and hell, if I had the free cash flow, they'd be special to me too

[bigpook]

$300??? It would have to be very special...

Right, but you probably don't want that keyboard anyway.

[nowsharing]

Not to brag :first: but last week I bought a NIB lexmark M (1995) for $9 + $10 shipping. Yes I know I'm a bastard for talking the seller down $15 on shipping for this incredible steal, but hey, I'm cheap.

[wellington1869]

Not to brag :first: but last week I bought a NIB lexmark M (1995) for $9 + $10 shipping. Yes I know I'm a bastard for talking the seller down $15 on shipping for this incredible steal, but hey, I'm cheap.

nice.

$300 - i was thinking of the NIB m minis. The regular 1401's NIB go for over a hundred dont they?

[MANISH7]

i was very happy to buy 3 NIB 1391401s for $60 apiece. two of them were white labels too. i keep these for nostalgia.

does anyone know what the retail price for a 1391401 was in 1990 (white label)? 1995 (blue label)?

[nowsharing]

Clean the f****g garage out of all these Ebay Keyboards!

I fear a brutal pistol whipping coming my way.

Although my lexmark was a good deal, I think the 1401 is far more desirable, it being the trademark M and all. Of course there are probably less of the non-1401 Ms around, making them rarer in number, but the demand probably isn't there to get as high of a price (with the exception of the minis and special color models). A NIB 1401 is a piece of history.

[MANISH7]

A NIB 1401 is a piece of history.

I agree. A Model M mini is not as iconic as the 1391401 (made by IBM).

[MANISH7]

I don't know about retail but the Unicomp guy said they normally sold for $150.  In another post I calculated that to be $360 or so in today's dollars.

Wow. It's no longer in production and was originally priced at $150. I got myself a really good deal. In this case, *theoretically*, I'm OK to pay $150 for a keyboard (actually I wouldn't because I'm just keeping it out of whim). However, I'd rather take my chances and wait for someone to provide a really good deal like I got. Of course, I myself will not be buying more Ms.

[nowsharing]

It looks like the buy-it-now has been lowered to $145, below the original price! It's still way out of my price range though.

[wellington1869]

doesnt he know no one bids until the last 30 seconds?

[georgew]

You have a higher opinion of Ebay sellers than I do.  I doubt any passed Economics 101.  The smart ones sell one a cycle.

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Now I remember the other reason I start these threads.  Just to make fun of Ebay sellers!

Hey, watch how you talk about ebay sellers.  I still lurk here at times interesting reading.
On another note I saw a neat gadget in my friends computer room, I finally started looking around in it.
It is a Lynksys proconnect 4 station CPU switch.  It has 5 keyboards, 5 mice, and 5 monitors connected to it.  I would like to know just what it does.
georgew

[Manyak]

Hey, watch how you talk about ebay sellers.  I still lurk here at times interesting reading.
On another note I saw a neat gadget in my friends computer room, I finally started looking around in it.
It is a Lynksys proconnect 4 station CPU switch.  It has 5 keyboards, 5 mice, and 5 monitors connected to it.  I would like to know just what it does.
georgew

Sounds like a KVM. Can you post pictures of its front and back?


Edit: is it this?


If so then yeah it's a KVM. It lets you use one keyboard/mouse/mointor on 4 computers and switch between them.

[georgew]

Its model # is SVIEW04  It will be awhile till I can get a picture of it.
georgew

[Manyak]

Its model # is SVIEW04  It will be awhile till I can get a picture of it.
georgew

Oh ok, well that's a KVM too.

[georgew]

Oh ok, well that's a KVM too.

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It looks like that one but it is beige, I think just an earlier version.  So could you explain in layman terms just what it does.  With 5 computers, mice, and keyboards what do you do with it?  Does it just let you control what keyboard, monitor , and mouse goes to a computer  except there are no computers connected to it.
georgew

[Manyak]

It looks like that one but it is beige, I think just an earlier version.  So could you explain in layman terms just what it does.  With 5 computers, mice, and keyboards what do you do with it?  Does it just let you control what keyboard, monitor , and mouse goes to a computer  except there are no computers connected to it.
georgew

5 mice and keyboards?

That thing lets you share one keyboard, mouse, and monitor across four computers. You just press the button of the PC you want to use and your peripherals get connected to it.

Basically like unplugging your devices and plugging them into another PC, except it does it automatically.

[georgew]

5 mice and keyboards?

There are 4 in a group and then another set of inputs that is separate from the others.  I will try to get a picture of it possibly tomorrow.  Like I mentioned before my friend was into computers like no one else I know.  He ran OS2, Windows, and Linux and possibly more.  I never saw a wiring mess like his computer room.  But I know it all worked when he was alive.  There was also a Laptop that he could control it all from via wireless.
georgew

[Manyak]

5 mice and keyboards?

There are 4 in a group and then another set of inputs that is separate from the others.  I will try to get a picture of it possibly tomorrow.  Like I mentioned before my friend was into computers like no one else I know.  He ran OS2, Windows, and Linux and possibly more.  I never saw a wiring mess like his computer room.  But I know it all worked when he was alive.  There was also a Laptop that he could control it all from via wireless.
georgew

I've got pretty much the same setup you're describing lol. I've got 9 PCs in my house, each one with a purpose

But yeah it's a KVM, the 4 groups that are together go to the PCs and the one that is separate goes to the KB/Mouse/Monitor. It plugs directly into the PS/2 and monitor ports on the back of the PCs.

[georgew]

Thank you manyak for the explanation. I think I have it figured out now.
georgew

[o2dazone]

new listing

I think someone told them "yeah they're super rare and nerds will pay almost anything to get their hands on it!"

[Manyak]

Still no other NIB 1391401s listed on Ebay.  Lots of used still but some look pretty cruddy, if not SCARRY.

Nothing that windex and rubbing alcohol won't clean.

[watduzhkstand4]

So why is the 1391401 so popular again? What's so special about this specific model?

[watduzhkstand4]

I guess I'm hoping for more warehouses to empty out and grab some goodies! :usa2:

[MANISH7]

OK - I got a good idea who the Geekhacker who sent him that is.

I'm curious - who?

[o2dazone]

ffhahaha

[IBI]

Q: Please confirm PIN 4 on the SDL connector has continuity.

Don't forget to check the resistivity of the ring bus!

Given the plentiful supply of Model Ms on ebay US I'm surprised how expensive they are over there, I guess the demand is greater as well.

[o2dazone]

font hardships

[Hak Foo]

LOL - notice the ending frustation  note - so VERY odd!

2 days to go and he's already panicking.  Gotta have nerves of steel you Ebay sellers!

I gotta think of some questions to ask him.

Q:  Please identify each key using a removable two-piece key-cap.

Q:  Is the text on the Alt keys green, red, or black?

Q:  What's for dinner?

[MANISH7]

hi ripster,

thanks for your thoughtfulness in being polite. i was the one who asked the seller those two questions about the support wire. i personally wouldn't have minded nor even realized any negativitiy but i appreciate your thoughtfullness. idiot_hacker increased my keyboard snobbiness and i'm no longer 100% satisfied with my 2 NIB white labels. neither have support wires like my old '88 did. i know that makes very little difference. it is still an indication of the extra care spent to manufacture the keyboard and i appreciate that. besides, i wanted to recover, for the sake of nostalgia, what i found in my garage but found not new enough for me to keep (and that would be a keyboard from 1988).

so i'm disappointed because i tried to place a maximum bid of $120 but it didn't go through because i was not home and had to use an unreliable computer. it kept refreshing the screen every 10 seconds like normal, i was sniping at the last 10 seconds (to get best deal), and so when i tried to punch in $120, the pc failed. i guess pop ups or something were not enabled. else i'd have won the bid that ended with $97. i personally don't think there's anything wrong with sniping but others who do will say serves him right

i personally think that this was a great deal. a lot of sellers charge $20 to ship (even reliable power sellers) whereas this guy gave free shipping. a lot of 1391401s come with out cable so $12 for shipping + cable from unicomp. further, this wasn't just any 1391401, not just any white label, but the best type of 1391401 out there (if i were to guess seeing that it was a '1988). yes, i know that this classification is very impractical but then again, we're not always practical when it comes to keyboards. you seemd to point out that this was a good deal yourself that is why i'm surprised why you expressed dissatisfaction with the offered item / deal on ebay.

well, congrats to the person who won the bid. i'm sure that another NIB 1391401 =<1988 will surface sometime.

[Idiot_Hacker]

hi ripster,

thanks for your thoughtfulness in being polite. i was the one who asked the seller those two questions about the support wire. i personally wouldn't have minded nor even realized any negativitiy but i appreciate your thoughtfullness. idiot_hacker increased my keyboard snobbiness and i'm no longer 100% satisfied with my 2 NIB white labels. neither have support wires like my old '88 did. i know that makes very little difference. it is still an indication of the extra care spent to manufacture the keyboard and i appreciate that. besides, i wanted to recover, for the sake of nostalgia, what i found in my garage but found not new enough for me to keep (and that would be a keyboard from 1988).

so i'm disappointed because i tried to place a maximum bid of $120 but it didn't go through because i was not home and had to use an unreliable computer. it kept refreshing the screen every 10 seconds like normal, i was sniping at the last 10 seconds (to get best deal), and so when i tried to punch in $120, the pc failed. i guess pop ups or something were not enabled. else i'd have won the bid that ended with $97. i personally don't think there's anything wrong with sniping but others who do will say serves him right

i personally think that this was a great deal. a lot of sellers charge $20 to ship (even reliable power sellers) whereas this guy gave free shipping. a lot of 1391401s come with out cable so $12 for shipping + cable from unicomp. further, this wasn't just any 1391401, not just any white label, but the best type of 1391401 out there (if i were to guess seeing that it was a '1988). yes, i know that this classification is very impractical but then again, we're not always practical when it comes to keyboards. you seemd to point out that this was a good deal yourself that is why i'm surprised why you expressed dissatisfaction with the offered item / deal on ebay.

well, congrats to the person who won the bid. i'm sure that another NIB 1391401 =<1988 will surface sometime.

I am very happy that I get to increase someone's knowledge.  However, the real gems are 1391301.  The oldest one I have is from JUN'86.  The square IBM logo to the right makes the keyboard more aesthetically pleasing to my eye and it has all the higher build qualities like I mentioned about the early 401s.  However even though I feel 301s are the best Model M, nothing beats my Model F PC/AT keyboard.  It has a higher pitch click and is heavier then any of the Model Ms.  I just have to adjust to the awkward layout when I bring it out to type for a bit.

[cchan]

I am very happy that I get to increase someone's knowledge.  However, the real gems are 1391301.  The oldest one I have is from JUN'86.  The square IBM logo to the right makes the keyboard more aesthetically pleasing to my eye and it has all the higher build qualities like I mentioned about the early 401s.  However even though I feel 301s are the best Model M, nothing beats my Model F PC/AT keyboard.  It has a higher pitch click and is heavier then any of the Model Ms.  I just have to adjust to the awkward layout when I bring it out to type for a bit.

1390131 is the old metal label ones.