Model M 1397000 - 122 Key Fully PC Compatible

[Specter_57]

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I want....but I know i'll be out bid if I do try for it...

However, using the controller project, just about any 122key unit can be made to work.

Still...the idea of being to get one without having to build your own...sighhh....

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Spec57

[TexasFlood]

Don't see these every day.  Like once every 6 months to be precise.

Click on the link in my Sig for full details.  I can't GUARANTEE PC compatibility but the odds are good with this model number.

Six pin DIN connector, need at least a different cable if not some deeper modification, but I'm sure there are others more familiar with this keyboard than I who can spell it out.

[kishy]

KBDbabel

ISTR that the terminal emulator boards are actually LESS compatible than converted terminal keyboards on the basis of some keys sending key combinations instead of single scancodes, making custom mapping more difficult. They're "fully compatible" in the "no messy driver crap and more normal layout" aspects.

[TexasFlood]

That's a standard SDL connector for IBM Model Ms.

Like I said earlier - you should be able to plug and run without a cable swap or a KBDMania mod.  The mod that people seem to like to talk about but never actually complete.  I think its a congenital defect of Generation Y.  Lots of talking.  Little doing.

My bad, a bit of a newbie here.  I took a quick glance and for some reason though it was a 6 pin DIN, but guess it's a mini-DIN, which should be physically PS/2 compatible.  The KBDMania mod I don't know about yet.

[Specter_57]

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I like some of the colour combos on Quadibloc's keyboard page...the colours there are of course for illustration...but would actually look pretty good on a real 'board.

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Spec57

[bombcar]

Bought that one, paid $37.71 for it; missing a few keys.



Mine seems to claim it was made in 2000? But that's impossible, no?

Anyway, what tools are there in Mac OS X to see what keys it is sending? I've got it working through a Tripplite USB to PS/2 adapter, and get things like §± from the key near Z, but want to fully use my friendly F13-24 keys, and what exactly RULE HOME is sending.

Underneath that C-99125 sticker it says "Product of C.E.L. Technical Services."

[salcan]

Bought that one, paid $37.71 for it; missing a few keys.

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Mine seems to claim it was made in 2000? But that's impossible, no?

Anyway, what tools are there in Mac OS X to see what keys it is sending? I've got it working through a Tripplite USB to PS/2 adapter, and get things like §± from the key near Z, but want to fully use my friendly F13-24 keys, and what exactly RULE HOME is sending.

Underneath that C-99125 sticker it says "Product of C.E.L. Technical Services."

can you post some better pictures of it? ty

[bombcar]

Keyboard or the label?

[salcan]

Keyboard or the label?

keyboard please

[zeke]

*grumble*

I had 2 similar keyboards to this at one point.  They were probably these:

http://www.9999hp.net/keyboard/temp/1389260.jpg

I got them at a university surplus sale for probably $2 by snagging them off a pallet another guy was buying....  They half-worked with one motherboard, but IIRC, keys seemed to 'stick' down, which made them essentially unusable.  I intended to try and swap out the controller with another one, and to that end was looking for one with enough the same number of address lines.  I never did find such, and eventually decided I should just build a mapping of keys<-->address lines so I could interface something else and mangle the logic into something the linux PS/2 key controller could handle.  Somewhere in a box are sheets of paper with all of the mappings tediously traced and  written out.

But in the middle of this process, I got a 60 hour/week job with a 4 hour/day commute, and when we sold our house, the keyboards went the way of all my other 'not happening soon' project material.

*grumble*

zeke

[salcan]

Click on the link on my sig for 1397000.  I assume the key layout is the same.

Great pic, but you have the blue characters on some keys, I'm guessing that's not standard with the 1397000. I guess bombcar can confirm though.

[bombcar]

No, mine also has blue keys, too. It seems the blue keys indicate what it's sending PS/2 wise, because I get [{ instead of ¢!, for example, on the key next to P.

Some of the keys were taken from my other 122 terminal board; but the blue is definitely on some keys that are native.







Unfortunately my testing indicates that the extra function keys are not seen by my adapter, though F14 gives me an "a" key it seems, as does the key marked "Clear" on the side.

Now to find a smarter PS/2 adapter that will give me real keys. The "<>" key next to the Z brings me §± which is cool.

[salcan]

Thanks for the confirmation. I love those blue legends.

[Mental Hobbit]

Even my German 1397003 has the black+blue legends.

[bettablue]

When I started looking for a model M I asked a lot of people at my job if they happened to have one they weren't using.  I was given a New-in-the-Box terminal model M with the larger DIN connector made in 1994.  I did a lot of research and found that thehy were not PC compatible, but that there were some mods that could be done to make it work.  I have never seen one completed either.  I am definitely not that good at following the directions I found on the web, so I finally traded with another co-worker and got myself a standard model M made in Feb 1989.

[bettablue]

I don't remember whosedirections I was looking at, but I found several by looking on Google.

[theferenc]

It's rather amusing that this thread got necroed, as I had been keeping my eye on just such a beast on ebay. Ended up costing about double what you paid, ripster, but for my purposes, still a bargain.

And I explicitly like the sheer size of the keyboard. With the extra keys and a computer with a PS/2 port, there's just so much useful stuff I can do with this keyboard, at least for my purposes.