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Offline wanabe

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WITHOUT LOOKING - Tell me if M is on the left or RIGHT of N?
« on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 17:19:10 »
tricky tricky.  you got me, darn alphabet screwed me up

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« Reply #1 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 17:20:36 »
Always on the right, even on Colemak and Dvorak.
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« Reply #2 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 17:21:24 »
Right ;D Non-otaku board helps ;D
So I should add something useless here yes? Ok, ok...
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« Reply #3 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 17:24:10 »
It's right, I just imagined typing my name.

Offline sam113101

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« Reply #4 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 17:27:25 »
God, it's on the right of n even with bépo.

M looks like an evolution of n, I never understood why it was placed BEFORE n.
Also, why is this ----> W called a double-u instead of double-v*?

In french it's called a double-v.
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Offline Geten123

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« Reply #5 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 17:27:58 »
The right, for god's sake. I've been knowing this ever since I learnt how to touch type and remember the placement of every key (which was about 8 years ago).

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« Reply #6 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 17:41:30 »
LoL

I couldn't tell "in the air" without looking.
Is it cheating if I used my fingers to make the call (still without looking)?

The fingers knew.
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« Reply #7 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 18:03:13 »
So hmm,
m M M yep, M ;D

And N, N before it.

Just type and try and it's easy.
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Offline Variable

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« Reply #8 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 18:19:03 »
I knew

thought of how I would type nm

Offline Keymonger

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« Reply #9 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 19:47:42 »
I totally knew.

Offline dr/owned

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« Reply #10 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 19:52:20 »
Right obviously because M is a down sweep from J.  Plus on Dvorak N is B, which gets much less use.
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« Reply #11 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 20:10:25 »
No ripster, it is YOU who must tell ME something!

Why did you capitalize RIGHT but not left?
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Offline NimbleRabit

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« Reply #12 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 20:23:46 »
I had trouble with this a few years ago when putting together a keyboard and decided to memorize it.  Not sure how it's helpful information to have crammed into my brain, but it's there nonetheless.

Offline Lanx

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« Reply #13 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 22:03:05 »
i had to type it out w/o looking to even know, my muscle memory knows more than my "virtual imaging" knows.

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« Reply #14 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 22:06:53 »
Yeah I had no idea. And yet I never look at the keyboard when I type.
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Offline Lophostrix

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« Reply #15 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 22:08:19 »
Right. Where else would it go?

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« Reply #16 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 22:46:42 »
It's an odd thing you posted this today. While I do remember the right answer without looking, I had occasion for some reason earlier today to double-check this very thing... my problem, though, was that I put my right hand back on the keyboard one key over, not that I had those two letters mixed up.

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« Reply #17 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 23:09:37 »
Quote from: ripster;321767
I found it interesting because it's the ONLY two Alpha characters on a QWERTY keyboard that are both adjacent and in reverse order.

Damn that Sholes character.

Imaginative flash back to a statistics class where that's a question on an exam.  "Compute the probability that at least two keys will be side by side in both the alphabet and on the keyboard given random arrangement".
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« Reply #18 on: Wed, 30 March 2011, 23:20:51 »
Without looking or reading any responses, M is on the right of N.

I did touch type out the word moron though, since for some reason it's the first word that came to mind that has an m and an n...

Offline Phaiger

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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 31 March 2011, 00:04:10 »
Quote from: ripster;321767
I found it interesting because it's the ONLY two Alpha characters on a QWERTY keyboard that are both adjacent and in reverse order.


That would mean, that QWERTZ is superior to QWERTY, because it has TWO sets of characters, that meet your requirements (n/m, y/x)!

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« Reply #20 on: Thu, 31 March 2011, 06:17:13 »
Quote from: ripster;321767
I found it interesting because it's the ONLY two Alpha characters on a QWERTY keyboard that are both adjacent and in reverse order.


Acctualy, Ä is on right side of Ö

And they go XYZÅÄÖ

Still, whole layout seems quite random...
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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 31 March 2011, 09:53:37 »
Quote from: ripster;321806
Well, I for one am confident Mr. Sholes had a good reason for it.

IIRC Sholes actually put M to the right of L (which makes a lot more sense) in his final design, but Remington moved it to it's current position after purchasing the device.
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M is left of N!
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 31 March 2011, 16:01:40 »
In Dvorak anyway!
(and a little bit down also)
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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 31 March 2011, 16:09:37 »
If the keyboard is a QZERTY, M is not on the left nor on the right.
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« Reply #24 on: Fri, 01 April 2011, 04:10:55 »
I got the correct answer easily, but probably because I'm re-learning touch typing.

My fingers still get a little confused by n/m, so I occasionally consciously think about them for a split second.  s and e are my worst finger memory problem at the moment. Overall I'm making pretty good progress since getting a Deck in late January, just have some finger memory senility issues.
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« Reply #25 on: Fri, 01 April 2011, 04:39:01 »
I totally had to look. I guess I dont really think about where all the keys are that much, just used to typing them.
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« Reply #26 on: Fri, 01 April 2011, 05:27:34 »
It's the only thing I **** up on my otaku board, even after like six months of practice.