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Offline Hyde

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Rainbow Keycaps Bottom Out Distance
« on: Thu, 20 December 2012, 13:23:38 »
Hello my girlfriend bought this recently:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/104-PBT-Rainbow-Side-printed-keycaps-for-MX-cherry-Switches-Keyboard-/290818408757?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item43b620c135&_uhb=1#ht_2701wt_1220
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http://www.vendio.com/stores/E-sports-Gaming-equipments/item/pbt-key-caps-87-104-full-set/104-pbt-rainbow-key-caps-engra/lid=30529650 (Same item different link)

And I thought those are OEM profile?  Because after we install it and started using it, we find the bottoming out distance is a bit shallower than the stock Filco keycaps.

Is this normal?  Has anyone tried this set before and have the same experience?
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Re: Rainbow Keycaps Bottom Out Distance
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 20 December 2012, 16:42:44 »
The amount of travel you have with different keycaps is related to

A: How tall the keycap is.  OEM profile is supposed to be 11.8mm (12mm profile)

B: How thick the reinforcement bars are.  Some keycaps do not even have reinforcement bars.

C: How long the "stem" or "mount" or whatever u want to call it, is.

D: If the keycap is made at a screwey angle that could affect things too.

Thank you for reporting this!  I was thinking of buying those same keycaps.  Travel distance is important to me!

If you could post an upskirt shot of your original keycap vs. one of the new keycaps side by side, make sure they are both the same exact key, that would help us to evaluate the situation.

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Re: Rainbow Keycaps Bottom Out Distance
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 20 December 2012, 23:53:38 »
I'll take a picture next time I go over to my g/f's house then lol
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Re: Rainbow Keycaps Bottom Out Distance
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 21 December 2012, 04:10:08 »
Er, a photo of the underneath of the keycap, just to clear up any possible confusion and before anyone has cause to get too embarrassed ;)
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Re: Rainbow Keycaps Bottom Out Distance
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 21 December 2012, 07:47:59 »
The part of the keycap that hangs down and flares outward is the Skirt.

Altho I must admit I was really looking forward to finding out if his hot Canadian gf was Cherry MX compatible.  :p
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Re: Rainbow Keycaps Bottom Out Distance
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 21 December 2012, 17:27:15 »
Quote from: TotalChaos on Fri, 21 December 2012, 07:47:59
The part of the keycap that hangs down and flares outward is the Skirt.

Altho I must admit I was really looking forward to finding out if his hot Canadian gf was Cherry MX compatible.  :p

lol are you implying my g/f is a keyboard?  Or are you implying my real life girlfriend might be cherry mx compatible?  O____o
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Rainbow Keycaps Bottom Out Distance
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 21 December 2012, 19:06:33 »
Most canadian hot girls are cherry mx compatible after owning a limited edition pink & white filco 😊
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Re: Rainbow Keycaps Bottom Out Distance
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 22 December 2012, 20:38:07 »
Quote from: quake4mhg on Fri, 21 December 2012, 19:06:33
Most canadian hot girls are cherry mx compatible after owning a limited edition pink & white filco 😊

I always wonder why they put mx black on that one.  Would've bought it for my g/f if it was any other switch colour  :(
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Re: Rainbow Keycaps Bottom Out Distance
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 15 January 2013, 05:08:52 »
Quote from: TotalChaos on Thu, 20 December 2012, 16:42:44
B: How thick the reinforcement bars are.  Some keycaps do not even have reinforcement bars.

does that mean, that bottoming out hits against these bars?
i'm planning to experiment with shortening stems and been wondering where the bottoming actually happens
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Re: Rainbow Keycaps Bottom Out Distance
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 15 January 2013, 08:49:19 »
Quote from: Jmneuv on Tue, 15 January 2013, 05:08:52
Quote from: TotalChaos on Thu, 20 December 2012, 16:42:44
B: How thick the reinforcement bars are.  Some keycaps do not even have reinforcement bars.

does that mean, that bottoming out hits against these bars?
i'm planning to experiment with shortening stems and been wondering where the bottoming actually happens
All I know is if you have O-rings or Crashpads installed then you bottom out into the reinforcement bars and it is soooooooooo awesome!   It allows a nice soft "landing".  It is the only reason I can type this msg right now.

Reinforcement bars rule!!!!

AFAIK most keycaps have the reinforcement bars except for DoubleShots.
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Re: Rainbow Keycaps Bottom Out Distance
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 15 January 2013, 11:25:35 »
Great!
I think this is where the contact point should be, otherwise a metal plate would only be partially useful, you'd be hitting into the switch bottom part which sits on the pcb.
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